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* This is hinted at by the Susans' conversation about Sleeping Beauty and the Prince.
* '''Jossed'''. Oh well. It would have been one creepy ass [[Enemy Without]].
'''3. Alpha is a stand-alone complex, like the laughing man in [[Ghost in Thethe Shell]]'''
* Alpha is a personality that doesn't stick to one body. Said personality may range from a few imperatives to act, to a full imprint, to a brick of a collective.
* Intriguing idea; what would this explain or predict?
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** Ah, but you see, that's because those characters have had the same imprint for a long time. Their brain chemistry has become closer to that of normal humans over time.
 
== [[Dollhouse]] is set in the same universe as [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV)|Buffy]], and Echo is Faith. ==
Sometime in the near future, Faith was captured and brainwashed into becoming one of the Dolls. Her awareness of self stems in part from her Slayer dreams.
* As an inevitable result, ''[[Dollhouse]]'' will complete the respective storylines of both ''Buffy'' and ''[[Angel (TV)|Angel]]''.
* As a corollary, Dr. Saunders is Illyria, presumably trying to infiltrate the Dollhouse to bring back Faith's memory.
** Dr. Saunders' self-identity issues seem to still fit in with that, somehow. Check Illyria's speech from Angel 5.17: "My face is not my face. I don't know what it will say. All I am is what I am. I lived 7 lives at once. I was power and the ecstasy of death. [...] Now ... I'm trapped ... [...] in this time and this place, with an unstable human who drinks too much whiskey [...]."
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== The Actives are cheaper than real experts. ==
One obvious problem with the premise, pointed out by almost every reviewer, is that if you want the world's greatest hostage negotiator, you can just hire them without all this sci-fi malarky. Even the memory-wipe stage doesn't make the Dolls much more attractive. One possible solution is that the Actives are cheap compared to hiring the real world-ranking experts - although still expensive in absolute terms. This means that the Dollhouse can't be making any money from the Actives, but the whole operation could just be a non-profit field test of a technology that has something other than money driving it. Perhaps the government wants to turn entire cities into millions of [[Twenty Four24|Jack Bauer]] clones during terrorist attacks. Or maybe the creators of the Actives see them as inherently superior to normal humans and want to transform the entire human race.
* The first episode talks about, not only imprinting other peoples' personalities onto an Active, but also mixing and matching to mold someone. It's not perfect - you can't just select "this trait, that trait, and this background aspect" the way one might create an RP character - but it's certainly a higher degree of selectivity than sticking with 100% natural personalities. This does raise the question of how the Dollhouse gets so many different natural personalities to work with while remaining so secretive that the FBI believes it a fairy tale at best....
* Also, the best hostage negotiator in the world may not be around anymore. Remember that the obvious main part of her personality in that episode was based on a woman who had committed suicide.
** They took the best hostage negotiators in the world and threw in the experiences of a victim for that extra edge.
* It seems that the Actives have more than just experience or skills. They seem to be closer to manufactured versions of Taskmaster from [[Marvel Comics]] (or for a less obscure reference, that chick with superhuman muscle memory from ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]''). They don't seem entirely human. They seem "better". As the cop chasing after the Dollhouse explained, you ''can'' hire the world's best whatever...but Dollhouse can give you better for a slightly higher fee.
** He went to the Dollhouse instead of somebody else because he already had a relationship with them. DeWitt does call him a "valued customer," after all.
* You may be able to hire the best hostage negotiator currently alive, but the Dollhouse can mix and match the personality to make you a better one than any who ever lived. More importantly, the hostage thing was an emergency which the manager didn't seem eager to respond to. Judging by what we've seen so far, on ordinary day to day assignments, the Dollhouse is like a luxury whorehouse, only it can give you what money can't buy you anywhere else: Authenticity. The Dollhouse can set you up with a date who has ''genuine'' feelings for you; it can give you the real thing, whatever that is to you. This is something people are willing to pay any price for: [http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/benjamin_wallace_on_the_price_of_happiness.html\] [http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/joseph_pine_on_what_consumers_want.html\] There's no doubt about the marketability and profitability of such an enterprise. Getting it known among your customers while keeping it secret from the rest of the world (so secret that the rest of the world doesn't believe it exists) is a different matter.
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There's no way that isn't on the schedule to happen at some point. [[Joss Whedon]] gets credit from the left for not side-stepping the issue of homosexuality; he has a ready made "don't judge" moral (someone important in the woman's life disapproves and tries to kill them); and there's plenty of opportunity for [[Fan Service]].
* Topher will [[Firefly|be in his bunk.]]
* According to [http://www.afterellen.com/people/2009/2/eliza-dushku-interview?page=0%2C0 this] interview, no homosexuality for the first 13 episodes. It will show up in the second season, assuming they don't get [[Screwed Byby the Network|screwed]] again.
* Thrown a bone by Episode 9, in which Dr. Saunders mentions that homosexual encounters are the most popular reason Dolls are rented out.
* {{spoiler|Confirmed, retroactively, in 2x08; all of Echo's past romantic engagements are being murdered by Alpha, and some of them are women.}}
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* [[You're Insane!|You're out of your mind.]]
* At least some of the hatemongering on the web is being planted by Joss ''et al,'' to garner an incensed response from the fans of this FRICKING AWESOME show.
* This show is produced by [[NBC]] [[Universal]]. When [[FOXFox]] cancels it, it'll likely get [[Un Cancelled]] and get at least a full season on the [[Sci Fi Channel]]. (If [[Dollhouse]] can't succeed there, it will prove once and for all that [[Joss Whedon]] is taken way too seriously.) FOX does not need that kind of competition on basic cable, so it'll keep the show around for at least 22 episodes. Perhaps even three full seasons, just like [[Sliders]].
* Confirmed: Not only did Dollhouse make it to the end of season 1 (despite the 13th episode only appearing on the DVD), it's been renewed for a second 13-episode season. Now there's a twist no one here on [[TV Tropes]] saw coming.
** And now they're saying it's about to be renewed for a third.
*** ''That'' has been discredited. Apparently, it got beaten by ''[[Stargate Universe (TV)|Stargate Universe]]'' (on [[Sy Fy]]) one time too many. For November sweeps, [[FOXFox]] has replaced it with ''[[House (TV series)|House]]'' reruns. Or [[Bomes]] reruns. Either way, you get the idea.
*** Jossed. It's been canceled, and FOX hasn't renewed it for a third season.
 
== The Dollhouse is the centuries-prior predecessor to the Academy. ==
[[Firefly|The Academy]] makes use of powerful mental control and subliminal messaging to control its agents. This could easily be a refined version of the basic imprinted personalities used on the Actives. Over five centuries, they improved the technology to its present state in the ''[[Firefly]]'' Verse, though it seems they can't quite get the tech to develop psychic powers to produce perfectly mentally stable agents....
* So, keep your eyes open for the episode where an Active goes berserk after seeing an ad for Nature Valley granola bars! (All right, [[FOXFox]] would have to pay for that [[Product Placement]], but still...)
** But wait, wasn't that [[Universal]]?
*** If it is Universal, then the odds of an Active going berserk over a granola bar [[Product Placement]] approach certainty.
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* {{spoiler|Completely and utterly [[Jossed]] by 2x11, where we learn the real reason he's stuck around...}}
 
== The Dollhouse technology is based on the [[Men in Black (Filmfilm)|Neuralizer]]. ==
Similarity of function.
 
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* Well, I suppose this is true ''in a way''...{{spoiler|Alpha fell in love with Echo the moment he saw her, and that led to his going crazy. No wonder they were so worried about Victor's reaction to Sierra...}}
 
== Alpha is pulling a [[Heroes (TV series)|Sylar]] with personalities. ==
Sure, there are better explainations for how he pretended to be the environmental guy, (He's an acting imprint, and Ballard lacks enough knowledge that Alpha could have said anything, or the environmental guy was already part of his imprints, for whatever reason) but he clearly possesses the tech required (ala the remote wipe) So why not up his portfolio. Note that he likely isn't doing it on any expert, just what he needed to get what he wanted, hence him being able to keep his secrecy.
* Better yet, Alpha '''IS''' [[Heroes (TV series)|Sylar]] using his {{spoiler|newly acquired shapeshifting abilities}} after {{spoiler|he realizes that he isn't Nathan}}.
* And Echo is Peter Petrelli...sort of.
 
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The ideal way to mess with imprints in unauthorized ways is to have people ''let'' you mess with imprints in unauthorized ways, and to just do a little more messing around than they think you're doing. If he has some kind of a plan (see also "Topher is deliberately sabotaging the process to cause Echo to retain skills" and "The mole is Topher himself"), it's a perfect cover to do anything he wants, while having the higher-ups look the other way.
 
== The Dollhouse is run by [[Angel (TV)|Wolfram & Hart]] and Whiskey is a natural doll ==
Just look at the architecture in there, the Dollhouse looks so much like the W&H offices that it could hardly be accidental (same creator even, do you think he didn't notice?). Likely it was one of their science departments pet projects, likely created by Knox or another of his ilk to "audition" bodies to be a host for Illyria, before Fred came along.
 
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== {{spoiler|At least 75% of this page has been Jossed in the old-school sense of the term by "Epitaph One".}} ==
 
== Epitaph One is the seed of the [[Firefly (TV)|Firefly]] universe. ==
In the [[After the End|future]] of Epitaph One, [[Earth-That-Was]] could no longer sustain us - due to all the {{spoiler|remote imprinting tech}} and the mess it made of the world.
* The solution to the mess was to settle on a new planet on the rim (of a new solar system), called Safehaven. This, and similar settlements would eventually form the Independents.