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* [[Accidental Truth]]:
** Susan [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-06-27 tells one of these] about [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-03-11 Justin being gay]. And [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-07-10 one more about] [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2009-11-19 spontaneous hair color changes].
** [[Opposite
* [[Action Girl]]: All the girls ([[Gender Bender|and some of the guys]]) except for [[Unfazed Everyman|Sarah]].
* [[Actually Not a Vampire]]:
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** [[First Contact]]: [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-09-02 At least, for Elliot].
** [[Insufficiently Advanced Alien]]: They made a lot of cool stuff, but... Three words: "[http://egscomics.com/?date=2003-09-16 Sanctioned Programming Languages]." After [http://egscomics.com/?date=2003-09-17 banning] ''OOP'' wholesale out of certain areas, it's no wonder even a little kid on Earth can help them with their technical problems.
* [[All Cheering, All the Time]]: A sketchbook entry [http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2010-11-11 explains] why "Cheerleadra" is an awful superhero concept.
* [[Alpha Bitch]]: Subverted. Diane is set up to be this, but she's revealed to actually care for her friends (and be concerned for random crying strangers), [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2008-02-01 as seen here], and is thus really a [[Lovable Alpha Bitch]]. Her friend Lucy, [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2004-12-13 on the other hand], fits the bullying part of the archetype but isn't the leader of the group.
** Susan seemed to be an example of this at first, being portrayed as a snobby mean rich girl... but the moment she was given more screen time she quickly got one hell of a character development. She was also revealed to have a traumatic backstory, so it would be more appropriate to call her a [[Broken Bird]], or, more recently, a [[Defrosting Ice Queen]].
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* [[Beat Panel]]: Frequently, and once [http://egscomics.com/?date=2002-04-03 turned into gag in its own right].
** Used to great effect when Nanase encounters one of the guys she dated before she came out.
{{quote|'''[[Hollywood Nerd|Gary:]]''' I don't mean to be rude, it's just I used to think you didn't want to go on a date with me because I was too geeky.
''BEAT''
'''Nanase:''' [[Blatant Lies|Yes. It was entirely because I am a lesbian.]] }}
* [[Beautiful All Along]]:
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* [[Characterisation Marches On]]: Goes hand and hand with [[Art Evolution]] and [[Cerebus Syndrome]] as the author grows from an adolescent to an adult.
* [[Character Filibuster]]: Tedd, on occasion.
{{quote|'''Elliot''' and '''Sarah:''' (a synchronized [[Face Palm]]) ''[[Oh Crap|Aw crap!]]''
'''Susan:''' [http://www.egscomics.com/?date{{=}}2008-05-05 What? Did I say something wrong?]
'''Tedd:''' They've heard the rant to follow before. }}
* [[Chekhov's Gun]]: A lot of 'em. It got to the point that Shive redesigned a character who would have had certain "suspicious" traits (such as an eyepatch) specifically so that nobody would sit around waiting for those to be explained.
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* [[Ditzy Genius]]: The reason for Grace's [[The Ditz|Ditzy]] characteristics. [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2007-02-07 Both her ability to absorb information and her lack of common sense are impressive.]
* [[Does This Remind You of Anything?]]: Ellen yells at Tedd for never apologizing for the mistakes that lead to her creation. He in turn refuses to apologize, saying that if they were mistakes, they were "The best mistakes I ever made." Sounds like they're talking about an unplanned pregnancy, huh? Also ties in with the [[Running Gag]] about Tedd being Ellen's father.
* [[Doing
* [[Doing
* [[Don't Try This At Home]]: The commentary for [http://egscomics.com/?date=2011-05-06 this] comic goes out of its way to inform readers of the potential hazards of using a sleeper hold.
* [[Dope Slap]]:
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** [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2009-12-01 And a mysterious stalker from the mysterious girl's past]. [[Suspiciously Specific Denial|But not a crazy wizard attack]]. Not at all.
** And Mr. Verres already [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-10-02 contemplated] using swamp gas as a random coverup.
* [[Gender Bender]]: The entire main cast, at least once. They even did this as a theme for a ''birthday party''. Ellen is a special case, since she's an [[Opposite
** [[Attractive Bent Gender]]: Pretty much whenever anyone is transformed, goes in both directions. It helps that the person behind the gender-bending technology is an unrepentant pervert who custom-designed transformation variants to appeal to certain fetishes.
*** This issue was [http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2009-12-15 explored] in rather disturbing ways in one of the Q&A sessions.
*** Tedd as a female deserves special mention, as "she" is [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-05-30 just about the hottest character in the comic]. Conversely, Tess in Newspaper [http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2008-10-02 complained] she became "so androgynous she wasn't even sure it worked."
**** Though, seemingly, Tedd is [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-05-21 plenty of attractive to guys] as it is.
** [[First Law of Gender Bending]]: EGS, while not as casual or frequent about it as ''[[The Wotch]]'', certainly pays the Law its dues. According to the rules governing the comic's main sex-changing [[Applied Phlebotinum|phlebotinum]], only male-to-female sex changes can be made permanent (pregnancy); female-to-male sex changes, even of someone trapped by pregnancy (for whom it's only even possible afterwards), cannot exceed a 30 day time limit. The second time a boy - the main character - is turned into a girl the device breaks, leaving "her" stuck for the full thirty days; the attempt to circumvent this creates an [[Opposite
*** Also, much later, a "seyunolu" ([[Half-Human Hybrid|chimera]]) member of the [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]], Vlad, is hit with a [[Transformation Ray]] and is turned female, but more importantly to him/her, ''human''. "She" has no desire to change back, and since [[Bizarre Alien Biology]] overrides the time limit (and, implicitly, gender identity), Vladia, as she is now called, is treated as a woman from then on.
*** Moving on from Elliot being a ''double'' victim of this, we get to Tedd. Who probably wouldn't know this was a law: the "circumstances" usually equate to "Dad's out of town" and "As a girl, ''I'm hot''."
** [[Second Law of Gender Bending]]: Largely averted, despite all of the constant [[Gender Bending]]: Elliot has no interest in remaining female for long and considers his gender-bending [[Power Incontinence]] distasteful, Justin specifically rejects the idea even though it would make him sexually compatible with the object of his unrequited affection, Ellen accepts it without expressing any preference (though there are hints that the [[Loss of Identity]] associated with [[Opposite
*** It's touching in Vlad/Vladia's case. There's nothing kinky about her accepting the change—for the first time in her whole life normal people aren't terrified by the sight of her, so she's willing to accept ''any'' form provided it's human, which her old, male form decidedly was not. And given that her one attempt to use her supposed shapeshifting powers was a painful, near-death experience she's not about to experiment even given the chance.
*** The curent theory is that Elliot will acquire new female forms again and again until he really likes one of them—then again, it was [[Chivalrous Pervert|Tedd]]'s idea. Between {{spoiler|flying around as a [[Chronic Hero Syndrome|superhero]]''ine''}} and {{spoiler|ogling [[Perky Goth]] form in a mirror}}, he may have found this already.
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*** Later, when Elliot develops the power to morph his clothes and appearance along with his gender his female forms tend to end up wearing girly outfits because he apparently just can't help visualizing them that way.
*** A better example is Tedd; in fact, Grace has less dresses and skirts in her wardrobe than he does despite most of her first clothes being selected by [[Ordinary High School Student]] Sarah. He even [[The Tease|prides himself on how sexy he looks]] transformed. And [[Feminine Women Can Cook|cooks better while female]], just out of habit.
** [[Opposite
* [[Genki Girl]]:
** Grace is usually defined as "bubbly." Although, Jerry the Immortal implies that she lost her innocence a long time ago, and she's simply overcompensating.
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* [[Girls with Moustaches]]: Several non-canon examples.
** An [[Imagine Spot]] showed Nanase [[Gender Bender|as a man]], [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-11-04 looking exactly like her normal self only sporting a moustache].
** Grace had a [http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2009-12-03 Jamie Hyneman 'stache] as a part of a ''[[
** The gypsy woman who sells Tedd dangerous magical objects in the non-canon NP arcs [http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2008-09-08 has a moustache] at one point.
** Sarah is [http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2009-11-12 shown with one] when playing as [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]].
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* [[Incompatible Orientation]]: A whole ''chain'' of them: Catalina ->Susan ->Justin ->Elliot ->Nanase (not all at the same time, mind)
** Alllows [http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2010-11-30 rather funny Sketchbook entries], though.
** The Elliot/Nanase dilemma, at least, is neatly resolved with [[Opposite
** The gender-bending complicates this, with bisexual male Susan and straight female Justin making out at Grace's birthday party. Also, at least one of Elliot's female forms has a crush on Justin.
* [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]]: Technically, {{spoiler|Magus}} apparently was behind the {{spoiler|v-five Elliot incident}} and tries to manipulate Ellen within some plot that sounds [[Squick|quite dubious]]. And is not very good at this. But he's in desperate straits, which isn't even his own fault (unlike Abe's case). And he's still reluctant to kill a guy who stands in his way even when pushed hard to do this.
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** Though this trope is never actually invoked, Elliot and Tedd's odd connection teases this. It seems like in any universe where they were born opposite genders (such as one where Elliot has always been "Ellen," and the technically non-canon story where Tedd accidentally and retroactively became "Tess") they are inevitably dating. A partial exception is when Ellen begins living through a "Second Life" in her dreams, but even then Tedd has a crush on her. The trope will probably not be played straight in this case, as historically neither is super-keen on giving up their "real" sexual preference while transformed.
* [[Kaleidoscope Hair]]: Happens to Nanase (whose hair turns black when her magic burns out) and Susan (when she goes through an angst-induced awakening)
* [[Kamehame Hadoken]]: As a practitioner of "''anime-style'' martial arts," it's no big surprise that Elliot (and [[Opposite
** Ellen has a modifying variant as an outright beam from her hand. Sensei Greg is, of course, jealous when he sees it. It turns people into attractive girls, and lately can turn HER into whatever she hits.
* [[Kicked Upstairs]]: Mr. Verres winds up in [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-01-19 a position created just for him] when his boss decides that it's best that he not be directly involved with [[It's Personal|the frequent cases involving his son and niece]], and keep away a [[The Men in Black|cover-up specialist]] from the limelight (the last part seems to be about to backfire).
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* [[Not Helping Your Case]]: When Mr. Verres has given permission for Grace to have a birthday party while he's away, on the condition that Elliot supervise (instead of Ellen):
{{quote|'''Mr. Verres:''' The clincher, however, was [http://www.egscomics.com/?date{{=}}2004-11-15 that crazed look] you got on your face when I first suggested the party.
'''Ellen:''' That crazed look could have meant ''[[Wild Teen Party|any number]]'' of things.
'''Mr. Verres:''' That doesn't help your case. }}
* [[Not That There's Anything Wrong with That]]: One of Justin's fangirls is [http://egscomics.com/?date=2010-12-20 sad that he's gay]. But only because she can't ask him out. Even though she already has a boyfriend.
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{{quote|'''Grace:''' [http://egscomics.com/?date{{=}}2010-06-25 Who the hell is Santa Claus?]}}
** [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2012-05-04 Elliot apparently didn't pay much attention] to ''[[The Matrix]]''.
{{quote|'''Mr Tensaided:''' ''([[Sunglasses
'''Elliot:''' Hello! [[Comically Missing the Point|It's, uh, Dunkel, actually. Elliot Dunkel]]. }}
* [[Ravens and Crows]]: {{spoiler|{{smallcaps|[[Oh Crap|Murder Shroud]].}}}} [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|The best]] [[Personality Powers|Goth]] spell ever.
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** They may also (unintentionally) explain [[Schedule Slip]], as in more rant = less art.
** And then even this [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-02-19 was] [[Lampshaded]] / [[Deconstructive Parody|self-parodied]]. Also:
{{quote|'''Elliot''' and '''Sarah:''' (a synchronized [[Face Palm]]) ''[[Oh Crap|Aw crap!]]''
'''Susan:''' [http://www.egscomics.com/?date{{=}}2008-05-05 What? Did I say something wrong?]
'''Tedd:''' They've heard the rant to follow before. }}
* [[Rapunzel Hair]]: [http://egscomics.com/?date=2005-09-02 Elliot] during Grace's Birthday Party. Susan has this naturally and it was lampshaded [http://egscomics.com/?date=2010-04-19 quite rudely.]
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*** Dan commented that he's been doing this more and more lately with random female background characters.
* [[Rule of Drama]]: It's been stated explicitly that magic is "overly dramatic," such as when all dark blue dye from Susan's hair ran out of her hair and into her clothes, followed by the magic making dark blue her natural hair color. Just because.
{{quote|'''Grace:''' But why did her [[Power Makes Your Hair Grow|hair grow]]?
'''Jerry:''' See "over the top emphasis." }}
* [[Rule of Fun]]: The author's stated reason for just why transforming is ridiculously, absurdly safe.
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* [[Running Gag]]: The Demonic Duck; Elliot and Ellen [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2002-12-17 (and in one strip Tedd)] saying "Za?"
** "Either I'm a narcissist, or I'm just that girly." Either way, [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-02-11 that was a disturbing revelation], Tedd.
** [[Tangled Family Tree|Attempts to build a genealogy tree]] for Ellen in several diferent, but equally ripe with [[Mind Screw]] ways. She's an [[Opposite
** [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2002-06-24 "READ or the owl will eat you."]
** "Zappa the kitty!"
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* [[Sherlock Scan]]: Diane does it while cap-and-piped. So much for being introduced as an [[Alpha Bitch]] two and half real-time years earlier.
* [[Shipper on Deck]]: Sarah, with Nanase and Ellen. Interesting because she's essentially returning the favor: Nanase helped Elliot get together with her. Grace is just as enthusiastic about pairing them up. In fact, the only person who doesn't like the idea is Tedd, who considers Nanase his "ugly cousin"—he can't handle the thought of her being in a relationship with ''anybody''.
* [[Shoo Out the Clowns]]: If they can't be milked for drama, they're gone. At present, this means the Hammers are gone, and Greg is closing his dojo. Also leads to [[Doing
* [[Shout-Out]]: See [[El Goonish Shive/Shout Out]]
* [[Show Within a Show]]:
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* [[This Is Reality]]: One of the immortals says so [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2009-02-27 here].
* [[This Is Wrong on So Many Levels]]: As they said during the "[[Inkblot Test]] [[The Illegible|Handwriting]]" incident,
{{quote|'''Justin:''' This is messed up on so many levels. I'm guessing [[Dysfunctional Family|you don't visit your cousin and uncle that much]]?
'''Nanase:''' It's common sense not to. }}
* [[Time Travel]]: [[Averted]]. [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 It's impossible.]
* [[Timmy in a Well]]: [http://egscomics.com/?date=2002-06-25 Parodied, almost by name.]
* [[To Be Lawful or Good]]: Happens to [[Anti-Villain|Abraham]], an ancient wizard who created the [[Green Rocks|Dewitchery Diamond]] intended to remove terrible curses like [[Werewolf|lycanthropy]]. And turned out to have the [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|rather severe drawback]] of splitting a cursed individual into the original and [[The Virus|an embodiment of the curse adept at spreading the curse to others]]. [[My Greatest Failure|Unable to destroy the diamond]], Abraham swore to [[The Atoner|dedicate his life to]] killing these cursed forms, which were generally vicious and powerful monsters ([[Didn't Think This Through|having failed to consider things like cosmetic magic]]). So he awakens from self-imposed suspended animation, sensing that the diamond has been used again. He is horrified to learn that one guy had used the diamond to cure himself of a [[Gender Bender]], accidentally creating an [[Opposite
* [[Too Much Information]]: ''[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-08-20 Fine, whatever!]''
* [[Too Spicy for Yog-Sothoth]]: In the off-continuity [[Jumanji|Goonmanji]] arc, the main cast pisses off the evil cursed [[Reality Warper]] game by being far too perverted/accustomed to the [[Mad Science]] to treat whatever it does to them as something more than [[Fetish Fuel]] at best and petty annoyance at worst.
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