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== [[Fridge Brilliance]] ==
* For a long time I simply thought Rider {{spoiler|(who is really Medusa)}} from ''[[Fate/stay Stay Nightnight]]'' being [[The Woobie]] was just a common case of mythological monster being treated more sympathetically in an adaptation. Then I remembered something: in certain versions of the story, {{spoiler|Medusa}} was a priestess turned into a monster by Athena ''for being raped by Poseidon in her temple''. They really didn't drastically change the story, they simply took the basic concept of it and let the sheer [[Values Dissonance]] change how sympathetically she is perceived. --[[User:thatother 1 dude]]
** This gets even better if you've played through Heaven's Feel and keep in mind how the Servants are supposed to usually have similar traits to their Masters...
*** The sequel, Hollow Ataraxia, makes this ''explicit'', by showing that Rider originally accepted the summoning in order that she could protect Sakura and help prevent her from turning into a monster like she had.
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** Also, in Heaven's Feel it is revealed {{spoiler|that the grail was created for the purpose of opening a gate to the root of the universe, which is stated to be the ultimate goal of anyone who calls himself a magus. Given that Holy Grail has also become a term meaning an ultimate aspiration or goal, it also earns its name by being created to facilitating the accomplishment of the ultimate goal of all magi.}}
* Why is Saber such a notorious [[Big Eater]]? {{spoiler|she's King Arthur! she's probably used to eating at the head of large feasts, not modern-sized meals}}.
* The infamous "Mind Of Steel" Bad End from ''Heaven's Feel'' {{spoiler|has both Ilya and Kotomine state that what Shirou does is ''become'' Kiritsugu. It makes sense for Ilya to say that, considering her connection to him-- but the true extent of the parallel is revealed after reading [[Fate /Zero]]. Both Shirou and Kiritsugu fell in love with a woman who is a vessel of the Holy Grail (Sakura, Irisviel), who wasn't expected to really live long at all because of that. Kiritsugu sacrificed her for the sake of winning the war and saving other people, in accordance to his idealism and his "kill one to save ten, ten to save a hundred, a hundred to save a thousand" philosophy. In this [[Bad End]], Shirou does the ''exact same thing'', and if he kills Ilya and Rin, the other Masters, too, then he'll be following in his father's footsteps even further, killing off as many Masters as possible. While Shirou's other choice, to protect Sakura against all odds is basically the exact opposite of Kiritsugu's actions in every sense possible, as he sacrifices other people for his love instead. In a metaphorical sense, one could see this as Shirou fixing his father's mistake, and just goes to show how much Shirou changes.}}
* It recently came to me that Saber {{spoiler|not aging for ten years due to Avalon}} makes a surprising amount of symbolic sense. {{spoiler|When she took out the sword, she willingly became a King and abandoned everything for the sake of her country, at a young age when she was still an idealistic little girl, to fulfill the ideal that she had at that age. To do that, she completely repressed that part of herself, and continued acting for that purpose ten years later. In other words, ten years later she never outgrew her idealism, and never aged naturally on an emotional and mental level either, meaning she remained that fifteen year old girl deep down because that part of her never aged.}}
 
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* [[Celtic Mythology|Cu Chulainn]] (Lancer) summoned as [[The Berserker]], {{spoiler|he admits that he can become the role}} is BAD ENOUGH. What is one notable Noble Phantasm gained by BEING ONE? {{spoiler|[[Body Horror|Warp]] [[Nightmare Fuel|Spasm]].}}
* How did Gilgamesh know that Saber, at that point in her route, had {{spoiler|lost her virginity? She's definitely a virgin when the story starts, since it's brought up elsewhere a few times.}} Since it happened in such a remote and isolated place, he would have to have inferred that that's what must have happened based on other information, or {{spoiler|Lancer was watching and reported back}}, or he himself was watching.
** I saw it in another way, for Gilgamesh it's impossible that {{spoiler|a king is a virgin}}, as s/he can take whoever s/he wishes for himself. So it might be a case of [[Fridge Brilliance]].
* In the Unlimited Blade Works anime, there are a few points where Shirou and Taiga ask Sakura to spend the night at Shirou's place. Most people would simply hand-wave this as insignificant or just think it's sweet for her, but if you've seen [[Fate/Zero]] or actually know the truth about her past, you'll know that for her, even spending a few days or nights away from the Matou house is like a trip to Disney World for her. No exaggeration. The things she goes through in the Matou house is close to Hell on a daily basis. To sum it up: {{spoiler|"The Bug Room's Training"}}.
 
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