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{{quote|''That's the problem with CHR's fights. Since they're described with the bare minimum of effort, you really have no idea what took place. It could have been a brutal, gigantic clash that tore apart an entire continent and went on for days, or if you're lazy like me, you can just take it completely literally and only show what was actually described!''|'''Normalman''', notes on ''[[Christian Humber Reloaded|Christian Humber Reloaded: The Webcomic]]''}}
|'''Normalman''', notes on ''[[Christian Humber Reloaded|Christian Humber Reloaded: The Webcomic]]''}}
 
In animation, [[Rule of Cool|cool fight scenes]] draw an audience -- butaudience—but are expensive to create.
 
There are two ways to handle this: pour most of your budget into the fight scenes or use lots and lots of tricks. These tricks include tight first-person perspectives, eliminating backgrounds, and making sure there's as little actual contact as possible. There may also be a censorship aspect to it, if the fight [[Could Have Been Messy|would otherwise look brutal]]. This usually manifests itself as a [[Battle of the Still Frames]].
 
Making a [[Coconut Superpowers|virtue of necessity]], characters may "move too fast to be seen!" as one of their in-world powers. Ideally, they move between static poses in a split second and dramatically hold those poses for many frames, with the melee replaced by a [[The Hit Flash|Hit Flash.]].
 
Typically [[The Movie]] will ditch these gimmicks entirely due to the amount of money that inevitably gets put into such projects.
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Compare [[Relax-O-Vision]], [[Offscreen Moment of Awesome]], [[Coconut Superpowers]], and [[The Hit Flash]]. See also [[Bolivian Army Ending]], [[Charge Into Combat Cut]], [[Fight Scene Failure]] and [[Take Our Word for It]]. When a scene is skipped entirely and only described afterwords, it is [[Second Hand Storytelling]] instead.
 
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
 
== Anime and Manga ==
 
* ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho]]'': Played with in the Hiei-vs.-Seiryu fight. Hiei blurs around Seiryu a few times, and he falls apart. Then the rest of the team compares notes on how much of the fight each managed to see - he was moving too fast for ''them'', too.
* ''[[Airmaster]]'' was notable among fans who otherwise didn't always like the art style of the series because it played its fight sequences fairly straight.
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* The ''[[Devil May Cry: The Animated Series]]'' is, sadly, loaded with these. There is one episode in particular in which Dante gets purposely sent into jail in order to rescue a man under the request of his sister. Inside, Dante finds out said jail is run by demons in disguise who periodically release all the inmates in order to [[Hunting the Most Dangerous Game|hunt them down]]. Once the "game" starts, a [[Good Old Fisticuffs|disarmed]] Dante calmly gets out of his cell, stands before a bunch of demons and adopts a [[Asskicking Pose|fighting stance]]. Cue the fade to black and when we're back Dante is calmly walking away from a bunch of beaten up demons...
* [[Legend of Himiko]] also suffers from these. Especially in the penultimate episode.
* ''[[Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt|Panty & Stocking]]'':the The whole 2ndsecond half of episode 6 is full of it.cue Cue Gainax blowing the whole budget on the fighting while the rest looks... well...
* ''[[Bakemonogatari]]'' [[Tropes Are Not Bad|deliberately uses this as a stylistic choice]] when Araragi faces down the rainy demon. Most of the sequence focuses on his face, brief glimpses of a blow or another, and cuts to [[Useful Notes/Fonts|typography designs]]. It's a highly stylized series as it is to begin with.
* ''[[Katanagatari]]'' uses it for comedic effect in the case of Hakuhei Sabi. Said person is hyped as a [[Master Swordsman]] without peer. Said person is beaten completely offscreen with the characters describing just how awesome/epic the fight was.
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** This trope is played painfully straight throughout the entire length of Dragonball Z.
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
 
* In the DC vs. Marvel mini-series, the results of seven key matches were determined by fan vote; [[Wolverine]] out-polled [[Lobo]], but the writers couldn't think of any way to believably make it happen, so the last blow occurs off-screen as the two (fighting in an alien bar) fall behind the bar and, after a couple of [[Beat Panel|Beat Panels]]s, Wolverine is the one who stands up.
== Comic Books ==
* In the DC vs. Marvel mini-series, the results of seven key matches were determined by fan vote; [[Wolverine]] out-polled [[Lobo]], but the writers couldn't think of any way to believably make it happen, so the last blow occurs off-screen as the two (fighting in an alien bar) fall behind the bar and, after a couple of [[Beat Panel|Beat Panels]], Wolverine is the one who stands up.
** For the record, back in his home series after the event, Lobo says that "[[X-Men|some bald guy]]" bribed him to throw the fight.
 
== [[Web GamesFilm]] ==
* ''[[Let the Right One In]]'' featured {{spoiler|the final fight - all we see is the male lead almost being drowned in the pool (the camera is sub-waterunderwater, too), then suddenly, people from above the water begin to scream, the hand that is holding the boy down suddenly disappears. Cue showing the bloodbath above}}. Being a drama with supernatural elements, this really works very well, and doesn't feel as an [[Offscreen Moment of Awesome]].
* The dutchDutch film "''De Griezelbus"'' did this with the final fight, only showing the shadows and people's reactions (actually, the evil monster involved in this is never in the whole film shown).
 
== Film[[Live-Action TV]] ==
* [[Let the Right One In]] featured {{spoiler|the final fight - all we see is the male lead almost being drowned in the pool (the camera is sub-water too), then suddenly, people from above the water begin to scream, the hand that is holding the boy down suddenly disappears. Cue showing the bloodbath above}}. Being a drama with supernatural elements, this really works very well, and doesn't feel as an [[Offscreen Moment of Awesome]].
* The dutch film "De Griezelbus" did this with the final fight, only showing the shadows and people's reactions (actually, the evil monster involved in this is never in the whole film shown).
 
== [[Live Action Television]] ==
* In ''[[Heroes]]'' the fight between Peter and Sylar is shown entirely as a bright light through a crack in the door.
** They pull the same trick again two seasons later with the big showdown between Nathan, Peter, and Sylar.
* In ''[[The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' the scene in which Chromartie kills a SWAT team is shown from the pool, so all the viewers see is them being flung down. A lot of people didn't mind, considering the unusual shot (and the song that went along with it) as being more effective than another scene of people ineffectively shooting a terminator.
* Late in the first season of ''[[Game of Thrones]]'', when Tyrion is sent into battle with his [[The Horde|Barbarian Horde]], he is accidentally knocked unconscious for the duration of the fight. Since he actively participated in this battle in the book, it was likely an example of this trope.
** In fact GRRM[[George R. R. Martin]] was assigned to write the episode and had a blog post about the battle scene being absurdly beyond the budget available to him. The irony being that before he became a Famous Author he wrote TV scripts... which were often rejected for having battle scenes too expensive to film.
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
 
* Parodied in ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' with the [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html ultimate duel between clerics], consisting entirely of touch attacks, most of which don't even work thanks to the would-be victim making his saving throw.
== Webcomics ==
{{quote| '''Goblin General''': Truly, there has never been a more spectacular display of magic in the annals of warfare.<br />
 
* Parodied in ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' with the [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html ultimate duel between clerics], consisting entirely of touch attacks, most of which don't even work thanks to the would-be victim making his saving throw.
{{quote| '''Goblin General''': Truly, there has never been a more spectacular display of magic in the annals of warfare.<br />
'''Redcloak''': Yeah, we really blew the special effects budget on that one. }}
* In ''[[Christian Humber Reloaded]]'', many of the fights are mainly described as having the main character performing the killing moves on his enemies with his various weapons and abilities, and the quote above shows the author's approach to illustrating the fights. In "Soku's Revenge against Me," the narration immediately transitions from the main character noticing Soku's arrival and recognizing her to regretting killing her (again) in front of the children.
 
== [[Web Original]] ==
* A handful of fight scenes from ''[[Bionicle]]'''s ''Mata Nui On-Line Game'', but in contrast to many other examples, these used the trope to great effect:
** Kopaka VS the Muaka: Kopaka activates the Mask of Concealing, turning invisible for the first half of the fight. We only see his footprints and the [[Hit Flash|flashes of his sword]] hitting the Muaka. The beast soon sees through his method, and smashes him into a snow-mound, forcing him to switch to another [[Mask Power]].
** Onua VS infected Lewa: hit flashes punctuating complete darkness, illuminating the combatants standing in various poses. When you think about it, the whole animation isn't all that impressive, but many fans consider it to be one of the best fight scenes -- thescenes—the [[Awesome Music (Web Games)|music track]] may have something to do with it.
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* Explicitly [[Lampshaded]] in an episode of ''[[Earthworm Jim (animation)|Earthworm Jim]]'': Suddenly, [[Diabolus Ex Nihilo|for no reason whatsoever]], Jim is surrounded by a bunch of [[Highly-Visible Ninja]]. Cut to a news anchor explaining that because action sequences are expensive, studios have been forced to resort to cheap tricks, such as...
{{quote| '''Earthworm Jim''': (standing on top of a pile of unconscious ninjas) What a great action sequence!}}
* Parodied in an episode of ''[[Droopy The Master Detective Hound]]''. A fight between Droopy and [[Mc Wolf]] consist of the two bowing, and [[Mc Wolf]] flying out the window. When demanding an explanation, Droopy's son shows a recording of the fight in "super slow motion" which is basically the two bowing, Droopy turning into a blur around [[Mc Wolf]], then stopping, then [[Mc Wolf]] flying out the window.
 
 
== [[Web Games]] ==
* A handful of fight scenes from ''[[Bionicle]]'''s ''Mata Nui On-Line Game'', but in contrast to many other examples, these used the trope to great effect:
** Kopaka VS the Muaka: Kopaka activates the Mask of Concealing, turning invisible for the first half of the fight. We only see his footprints and the [[Hit Flash|flashes of his sword]] hitting the Muaka. The beast soon sees through his method, and smashes him into a snow-mound, forcing him to switch to another [[Mask Power]].
** Onua VS infected Lewa: hit flashes punctuating complete darkness, illuminating the combatants standing in various poses. When you think about it, the whole animation isn't all that impressive, but many fans consider it to be one of the best fight scenes -- the [[Awesome Music (Web Games)|music track]] may have something to do with it.
 
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