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*** It also gets a [[Shout-Out]] in ''[[Dragon Quest IX]]'' as a [[Sidequest]] called Big-headed Bard. And yes, the bard in question is ''very'' spoony.
** Edward himself is full of [[Narm]]. In one scene, he needs his dead girlfriend's spirit's support to take down a common [[Mook]]. In another, he gets told to stop being a wuss by Rydia, at the time an ''eight-year-old girl''.
*** An eight year old girl who had just lost her entire family, and village, in an act of genocide. Yep, she handles that better than Edward handles the death of his girlfriend.
**** Even better in the DS remake, where you get treated to watching Cecil punch out Edward, honestly better then watching Tellah beat him up with a cane in my opinion
* While the scene was believable in the other versions, the scene in ''Final Fantasy IV DS'' where Cecil {{spoiler|unintentionally destroys Mist}} was pushed too far. They actually decided to go with a [[Skyward Scream]], with him yelling "WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!" and ''then'' "[[Big No|NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!]]". Combined with his armor, it made him seem like [[Star Wars|Darth Vader]].
** This Troper found herself giggling when, right after aforementioned screams of anguish, Rydia begins to cry... and the word "[sobs]" appears on screen.
*** Fortunately that same scene ends on a more well-done note because Rydia's "I HATE YOU!!!" still sends chills down my spine thinking about it.
* As was Garland's infamous threat, "I Garland, shall knock you all down!", from the [[Final Fantasy I|first Final Fantasy]]. ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|8-Bit Theater]]'', of course, [http://www.nuklearpower.com/2002/02/16/episode-118-you-knew-hed-say-it/ had a field day] with this one.
** It was also in the GBA rerelease. It's not in either of the Playstation versions, though - after the original game, the line's no longer true [[Narm]], and Sony has limited tolerance for deliberate silliness in its RPGs.
*** It was, unfortunately, editted out of the European release of Dawn of Souls but ''left in'' the American version.
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*** Vincent sucker-punches Cloud with his metal gauntlet to stop the SD pixel hip-thrusting.
*** That aside, after seeing Vincent, Mr Stoic Angsty-for-a-reason, do that, it's virtually impossible to take Aeris death seriously with tears of laughter rolling down your cheeks.
*** I've seen a picture of that but thought it was fake. Vincent is a douche.
** Also: Cloud in a wheelchair, twitching like a two-dollar whore. Cosplay that, fanboy.
*** We have.
**** ...and that makes it ''even funnier.''
{{quote| "[http://encyclopediadramatica.comrs/Image:Bjtifa.jpg Why? What do you want me to do?]"}}
** [[Overly-Long Fighting Animation|Super Nova, International version]]. Sephiroth does destroy the Solar System in the original Japanese version (it's harder to see because the explosion happens so far away); but for the International Version, they not only redid the attack to have much better animation, but they also made the attack [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|incredibly over-the-top]], showing the destruction of several planets (with their names in case you don't know what Jupiter looks like), with the Sun being a whopping two feet in front of our heroes before going Super Nova. It's even worse with the knowledge that it is a percentage-based attack - [[Slap-On-The-Wrist Nuke|it will never directly kill the party]].
*** And it can MISS. A Supernova can miss, despite being two feet from the faces of the party. [[Convection, Schmonvection]] at it's mosty [[Narm|Narmful]].
*** What truly puts it in Narm territory is the fact that Sephiroth can cast it multiple times. I see that planets reproduce by binary fission in the Final Fantasy VII universe, or so it would seem.
*** Oh, and he for some reason decides to spare Mars.
** After Cloud comes out of his [[Heroic BSOD]], he gives a speech to his party, and while it's pretty incoherent the translation pulls itself together for his genuinely inspiring final lines - "[[World of Cardboard Speech|I'm... Cloud. The master of my own illusionary world. But I won't live in an illusion any more. I'm going to live my life without pretending]]." Tifa immediately pipes up - "[[Captain Obvious|You're sure messed up, Cloud!]]" Some friend she is.
*** Yeah, this troper tried really, really hard to ignore the HORRIBLE effort in the tranlation. Nonsensical sentences, wrong character names for the speech bubbles, misspelled words, etc.
**** This troper lol'd hard at Tifa's line.
** In ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]: [[Crisis Core]]'', there's a minor but horrible one when Cloud and Zack are bonding. They reach a facility they're about to infiltrate, and Zack suddenly says, "Cloud, look". [[Memetic Mutation|If you know why that's horrible]], you've been on the internet far too long.
{{quote| "They're not the wings of a monster! They're the wings[[Dramatic Pause|................]] of an angel!"}}
** Intentionally invoked for effect with Genesis, who was intended to be [[Large Ham|a ridiculous over-the-top drama queen.]]
{{quote| "No way! He just ''ate'' my ''haaaair''!"}}
*** "DAMN YOOOOOOOU!"
** Another minor one here. During the otherwise well-done ending FMV of Crisis Core, Cloud's scream was jarringly cliche and pathetically delivered. Luckily, it didn't ruin the scene completely, and most people only cringed slightly before [[Tear Jerker|continuing to let the tears stream down their faces]].
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** Definitely YMMV on that. A lot of people found that to be one of the most heartbreaking moments of the series.
** The infamous 'Laughing Scene' is another good example.
{{quote| '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}H47ow4_Cmk0 HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA.]'''}}
*** It wouldn't be so bad because the awkwardness is intentional, but the sentimental music pushed it straight into narm territory.
*** If you can believe it, it's worse in the Japanese version. Tidus sounds like a crow.
** And then there's the scene in Home where Tidus learns what is going to happen to Yuna. Though it is clearly supposed to be a touching and dramatic moment, some people laugh at Tidus' hysterics, particularly the part where he just....''squeaks'' out a cry as the camera shifts upward. Thank you so much, James Arnold Taylor.
** Let us not forget the Bevelle scene where Yuna's threatening to jump off the extremely high building, while she's saying she can fly and telling Tidus to believe, he goes from shaking his head quickly to nodding super fast, it ruins a potentially dramatic scene.
** Also the way Tidus and Yuna have a tendency to say "okay" ''really'' fast, like they're trying to fit [[Mouth Flaps|lip movements]].
** Some of Tidus' comments after using certain spells. I once used Haste, Tidus said "Hey, hey, hey", and the only thing going through my head was Fat Albert.
** It seems that Tidus tends to move and act like he's buzzed out on caffeine or cocaine, maybe both, such as {{spoiler|the first time they defeated Seymour}}.
** The scene where Tidus cries, saying "I hate you, Dad," in [[Animation Bump|EXTRA-SPECIAL-SUPER-AMAZING-GRAPHICS]]. Out of context, it's extra fuel for Tidus's [[Hatedom]], though considering what he's crying about, [[Narm Charm|it's justified enough for most people]].
** "I don't like your plan. It sucks," from ''[[Final Fantasy X -2]]'', which is an understatement, especially since Yuna then goes on to say {{spoiler|that Nooj's plan to sacrifice himself, and potentially Baralai, to kill Shuyin is no different than the way Spira had fought Sin, and that there had to be a way to save the world without [[Senseless Sacrifice|sacrificing innocent people]]}}.
*** The infamous [[Fan Disservice|massage and hot spring scenes]], anyone?
*** "THE NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRVE!" Apparently, 'nerve' is now a twenty syllable word.
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** Indeed, while the majority of video game Narm seems to fall under the "endearing flaw" category, Dirge of Cerberus is a game that Narmed itself straight into [[Fanon Discontinuity]] for many fans. Granted, it's not the only reason ([[Retcon]], anyone?), but it's a huge part of it. This troper dares anyone to listen to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PaSYpNbpQ Rosso the Crimson] speak for more than twelve seconds without cringing, cracking up, or both. Even Vincent is unimpressed.
*** ''Where did she pick up a Russian accent {{spoiler|underground}}!?''
**** The same place Nero picked up his British accent.
** Oh Nero. Lord of the Narm. "STAY AWAY FROM MY BROTHER!"
** Special mention should go to the scene towards the climax featuring the main characters from ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' (sans Red XIII). We finally get to see them DO something, and then their entire role in the story from there is channeling the Power Rangers and simultaneously cheering Vincent on in a six-way split screen.
* In ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'', you get this awesome opening to one of the story modes, spoken in deep bass narrator voice:
{{quote| ''The boy is known by the legendary title of...''<br />
"''Onion Knight''". }}
** Later on, Cloud of Darkness even says to Onion Knight that he is not "worthy of his title". Why the heck is everyone acting like being called an ''Onion Knight'' is something to be proud of?!
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** Kefka has several moments, considering he's a [[Villainous Harlequin]], it's justifiable, and possibly invoked as [[Rule of Funny]].
*** After Zidane confronts Kefka about Bartz being caught in {{spoiler|Kuja's}} warp trap
{{quote| Kefka: "Well, the mouse is... *close up pan to his face* SMACK. Dabinthemiddleofenemyterritory."}}
** Kuja can also be pretty narmtastic, comes with being a large ham, but the scene before Zidane fights him at the end of the destiny oddysey IX has to top it, with both of them spouting off various theater puns (Zidane works in a theater and Kuja loves luxurious things, so it's to be expected), he also ends up stuck with Kefka as his only fair weather ally, which can lead to some amusing moments.
** Cloud and Sephiroth's [[Foe Yay|rivalry]] is played up for [[Fan Service]], as expected, but in ''Dissidia'' it's so extreme it could even be parody. Notable is a scene where Sephiroth appears - "It's good to see you again, Cloud," - and immediately threatens him with his sword. Cloud rolls his eyes and, when asked why he isn't fighting back, says "fighting you is pointless". Sephiroth gives a heartbroken, jealous expression. Possibly because earlier Cloud was fighting with Firion, who also presented him with a glittery pink rose to represent his inner feelings.
** Each of the characters in ''Dissidia'' go through a little [[Character Development]] quest to unlock their crystal. This leads to a scene where Cloud (lunatic and not real), Cecil (job dissatisfaction and family problems) and Tidus (family problems and not real) are sitting around discussing their issues, and Firion, from ''[[Final Fantasy II]]'' (before such gimmicks as ridiculous over-the-top [[Deus Angst Machina]] backstories were necessary), admits that he doesn't have any huge mental problems. The fact that he has no mental issues is the mental issue he has to overcome in his story.
* No one has mentioned the dancing scene in Cleyra from ''[[Final Fantasy IX]]''? I love that game so much, but that scene is still silly. Bad celtic folk music + Irish dancing. Dancing ''anthropomorphic rats'' no less. Awesome.
** BAD Celtic Music? [[Crowning Music of Awesome|Bad?]]
** On the note of IX, Kuja's horrifying fashion sense. For God's sake, the man's wearing a ''thong!''
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* ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' has Lightning's speech to {{spoiler|Orphan}}. Though to be fair, it's really more of the script's fault than the actress's.
* Even though ''[[Final Fantasy XII]]'' has succeeded in avoiding Narm in the more serious moments of the game, there's the infamous yelling quest in which the objective is to go around the city shouting things like "I'M CAPTAIN BASCH FON RONSENBURG OF DALMASCA!", "DON'T LISTEN TO ONDORE'S LIES!", "BASCH LIVES!" and so on. It wouldn't be so bad, if you didn't have to that ''around 50 times'' to get the quest complete. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiwLi4juIgE Viewable here.]
** What about [https://web.archive.org/web/20121104103948/http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/7/75/Ff12-basch.jpg Basch's outfit]? Is that ''a potholder''? And ''a pink undershirt''?
* Right before the climax of ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'', Cloud tries to give a rousing speech to his party. What does he tell them? " {{spoiler|Let's mosey}}." Certainly intentional, because Cid makes fun of him for not sounding enough like a man.
* The ''[[ChocobosChocobo's Dungeon]]'' series has some very big threats and sometimes very heavy themes, but it all kind of falls flat when you factor in that all the villains are monologuing to a ''baby chocobo''.
 
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