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* [[Broken Aesop]]: [http://www.theouthousers.com/forum/the-news-stand/flashpoint-friday-death-solves-all-problems-t65368.html Sean Ryan] [[Word of God|intended]] for the ''Grodd Of War'' oneshot to be an allegory for how the Western world doesn't care about what happens in Africa in terms of all the needless deaths taking place there, and have Grodd be the mouthpiece... but this is undercut by the fact that ''Grodd himself'' was the one who killed the vast majority of them. In the story he's pissed that Cyborg or Captain Thunder (any heavy hitter really) is too busy with the European War to try to stop him. Grodd wants attention because he thinks his campaign is too easy and unchallenging to him, he probably expected the world's superheroes to try to band up against '''him''' and didn't expect the events in Europe to completely overshadow him like it has. For some readers, the attempt to apply a moral and real world comparisons to it fell pretty flat.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Most of the villains of the saga. Seriously.
** Special note goes to Heat Wave, here a sadistic murderer with absolutely no moral boundaries ([[Friendly Enemy|as opposed to his normal DCU portrayal]]).
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** The Joker {{spoiler|AKA Martha Wayne. Like the main DCU Joker, she has a freudian excuse (although much less vague than Joker's) but her horrific, sadistic treatment of her child captives (and it's implied this is far from the only time she's done it) take her so far beyond the [[Moral Event Horizon]] it's frightening.}}
** Gorilla Grodd is a genocidal mass murderer in this timeline.
** General Nathaniel Adam (known in regular continuity as [[Captain Atom]]) who is probably one of the worse human villains in the story.
*** And don't forget Lionel Luthor in ''Project: Superman'' # 2: {{spoiler|he leaves his son Lex to be devoured by Krypto (whose mind had been tampered with by Subject Zero to get angry) while he runs away to save his sorry hide}}.
** Reverse Flash counts too, although not for his actions in Flashpoint (where he's barely appeared until the final issue). He's been set up as one since his recent origin issue in [[The Flash]].
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: In terms of the various miniseries. ''Batman: Knight of Vengeance'' is the real breakout.
** The Flashpoint universe version of Batman{{spoiler|/Thomas Wayne}} himself is the breakout character of the main series with most fans talking about how awesome he is and not really caring much about the main plot.
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** Issue #4 of the main storyline {{spoiler|has the Flash outright state that even if they find the Reverse-Flash, figuring out what's been altered would be like "finding the right grain of sand in the ocean." The implication is that while they'll fix some things, others will be permanently altered.}}
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Michael Desai, the Outsider. He's perpetually two steps ahead of the most powerful heroes and villains in the Flashpoint verse [[From Nobody to Nightmare|despite never appearing before his tie-in mini]].
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: Almost as soon as promotional material (saying things like "[http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/flashpoint11.jpg The spaceship never crashed]{{Dead link}}") popped up fans started doing [http://georgethecat.tumblr.com/post/2745925315/flashpoint-crossover-event-invites-parody their own versions].
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** The ending to ''[[Doom Patrol]]'' can't have helped: [[Ambush Bug]] convinced the villain to end his scheme by [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|telling him the book was getting canceled]] and that he wouldn't have time to see it through. We don't know ''exactly'' what he said, but "Flashpoint" and "Didio" came up.
* [[So Okay It's Average]]: Seems to be the general opinion on the main series.
* [[Narm]]: The ending of Batman Knight of Vengeance #2 {{spoiler|"MARTHA!"}} It comes across in almost "Goddammit {{spoiler|Martha}}, not this shit again.'' sort of way.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: It's still too early to make any final judgments since the series is ongoing and some story elements have yet to receive full explanation, but several things related to the series have caused controversy.
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20131023164417/http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/05/flashpoint-world-map-sparks-controversy/ Much] [http://geeksofdoom.com/2011/05/20/dcs-flashpoint-world-map-sparks-controversy/ head-slapping] [http://www.comicvine.com/forums/flashpoint/4735/flashpoint-map-ape-controled-africa-castrating-amazons/613792/ ensued] when the [http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/05/flashpointmapbig.jpg Flashpoint world map] was released and people saw that most of Africa is listed simply as "Ape-controlled." Apparently no one at DC thought this might be taken badly when applied to a continent overwhelmingly populated by black people, given the historical tendency for black people to be likened to monkeys and apes in racist propaganda. For the record, "ape" in context refers to Gorilla Grodd, a previously established Flash villain who is ''literally'' a gorilla, but the fact that this is the ''only'' information we had on the ''entire continent'' (besides the fact that a large part of Northern Africa is missing due to the same war that destroyed most of Europe) was the real unfortunate part, and the fact that ''Batman: Incorporated'' had done something similar with the "Batman of Africa" (falling into an unfortunate tendency to treat the entire continent like it's one country) a few weeks earlier did nothing to help.
*** Amusingly enough, the Grodd one-shot actually seems to pull a [[Lampshade Hanging]] on the last part since he's pissed that no one cares about what's happening in Africa (though see [[Broken Aesop]] for why this falls a bit flat since it's technically ''his fault'').
** The fact that the same map lists an "[[All Asians Are Alike|Asian Capital]]" was also criticized.
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** Harvey Dent's son, who gets kidnapped by the Joker along with his sister, then has to watch {{spoiler|his sister get killed by Jim Gordon because she was dressed by the Joker. And later, he has to watch the Joker kill Jim right in front of him.}}
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: {{spoiler|The Joker, A.K.A. Martha Wayne.}}
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