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[[File:gannon.jpg|link=The Legend of Zelda (video game)|frame|Two Ns, not three!]]
'''[[Reality Warper|Mr. Mxyzptlk]]''': [[Big No|NO!]] Repeat after me, bright boy. It's [[Literal Metaphor|MIX--YES--SPIT--Lick.]]
▲{{quote|'''[[Superman|Clark Kent]]''': [[Superfriends|Mix-Ill-Plick?]]<br />
In every community for every series, there are common mistakes. Someone could [[Spell My Name with an "S"|use the wrong romanization]] of a character's name, or think that [[I Am Not Shazam|the title referred to the main character]], or insist on [[Urban Legend of Zelda|spreading a rumor about the plot until everyone believes it]].
To [[Canon]][[A Worldwide Punomenon|dorfs]], this can get annoying.
The trope name comes from ''[[The Legend of Zelda (video game)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' [
See Also:
Not to be confused with [[Just for Pun|Banning Ganon]], who's a [[Complete Monster]] and clearly deserves to be [[Overly Long Gag|Ganon]] [[Sealed Evil in a Can|Canned]].
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Doesn't seem to be related to [[Brand X|Gannon Car Rentals]]. Or Gannon University, for that matter. Or Officer Bill Gannon from ''[[Dragnet]]''.
{{examples}}
* This can, on rare occasions, be inverted in the anime fandom, with posters saying "You aren't Japanese, so stop using the Japanese names." While certainly some are just elitist, some just use the original name or spelling because they like it better or if it's just what they're used to. There's also the problem some newer members of the fandom may have with correct pronunciation, potentially making it difficult to figure out what they're talking about.
▲== Anime & Manga ==
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** In English-speaking circles, [[Gratuitous Japanese|going out of one's way to use the Japanese words for things that are typical of anime in general when the English equivalent would suffice]] is considered to reflect poorly on the speaker; for instance, saying you dig ''vampire catgirls'' isn't a big deal, but going to the trouble of saying ''kyuuketsuki nekomimi-shoujo'' will put you on the Chumptrain to Douchetown.
** Many fan translations are militant in their use of Japanese equivalents of a word whenever possible, and occasionally reverse-translate portions of a manga (
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]!'' communities, especially those with a heavy population of OCG players, get rather snippy whenever someone doesn't use the "proper" name for a character or card. Woe betide anyone who calls "Saint Dragon -- The God of Osiris" by the American name, "[[4Kids! Entertainment|Slifer]] the Sky Dragon"... okay, so "Slifer" is a pretty silly name for a God Card, and it has a [[Tuckerization|really stupid origin]], but [[MST3K Mantra|lighten up, people]]...
** It lives on when people watch [https://web.archive.org/web/20100409013626/http://www.youtube.com/user/
* Though she was initially called "Dark Chii" by fans due to [[No Name Given]] for a large part of the manga, call Freya that to any ''[[Chobits]]'' fan's face and feel the wrath of the heavens descend upon you. Whether the name should be written as Chi or Chii is also an issue with some.
* Happens in the ''[[Dragon Ball]]'' fandom. People who use certain names over other tend to get looked at as filthy dub fans. It's not Master Roshi, it's Kame-sennin! Hercule? You moron, it's Mr. Satan! And so on, and so forth.
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** Treating [[Dragon Ball GT|GT]] as canon is another good way to get people to flame you.
*** Treating the movies or filler as canon is another mistake. Some circles go so far as to discourage discussion of the anime at all, as the only ''true'' canon is the manga.
* Referring to Anthy Himemiya (of ''[[Revolutionary Girl Utena]]'') as "Anshii" has been known to instill homicidal rages in fans of the show, due to "Anshii" being nothing more than a [[Engrish|Japanese pronunciation]] of the actual Greek name (seeing as Japanese does not have a "th" sound so it has to approximate it with a "shii").
* ''[[Sailor Moon]]'':
** Referring to the original characters using the dubbed names. Many fans will ignore you or worse. (Some will wish/inflict physical harm upon you.) However, this has been mediated these days, with
** Say that Uranus and Neptune are cousins. You will get one of two reactions: enraged purists/shippers/ who will want to strangle you, or dubbies who will defend you to the death. Say they are lesbian lovers, and reverse the reactions.
*** What happens if you say that they are [[Kissing Cousins]]?
**** [[Hilarity Ensues]], at least among the ones who will make fun of [[Dub Text]]-induced incest. It helps a ''lot'' that the dub did everything it ''could'' to support the [[Kissing Cousins]] interpreration, right down to keeping a ''literal'' case of
*
* Do '''NOT''' call Roronoa Zoro "Zolo". Ever. Unless you ''want'' everyone at the ''[[One Piece]]'' forum you visit (with the obvious exception of [[4Kids! Entertainment|4KidsTV's]]) to hate you. Also, never ''ever'' call Luffy simply "Monkey". Other dub spellings provoke similar reactions.
** What if you know his name is [[wikipedia:
** [[None Piece|We all know his name is Zoro Zolo.]]
* ''[[Death Note]]''
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** So calling him "Kelly Hunter" would be right out, then?
** Unless you're from the Philippines, in which case most who grew up watching Daimos (or Voltes V) would correct you politely whenever you use their Japanese names.
* According to the fans, it's spelled [[Chrono Crusade|"Chrno" and not "Chrono"]]. However, [[Word of God]] has admitted that "Chrno" was a mistake on Daisuke Moriyama's part, and by the time he noticed it was too late to change it.
:"Chrno" can cause some confusion, too, if you misread the ch as the one from "child" and not the one from "chaos". [[Conveniently Precise Translation|Coincidentally]], "czrno" is the Slavic word for "black"... which is also what "Kurono" means in Japanese.
* ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]''
** Spelling the (obviously western) names of the Elric brothers as ''Edo'' and ''Aru'' after the Japanese mispronunciation due to a lack of -d and -l sounds in the Japanese language will automatically brand you as a noob among ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' fans.
** Some people used to insist that there was a character named Ed'''v'''ard Elric in the ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' series, who lived in "Amestria" or even "Shamballa". As you can guess, the former shows up infrequently online where text is far more common than speech, but the rest were fairly common amongst almost-but-certainly-not fans at one time.
* ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''
** Is it Gendo, Gendou or Gendoh Ikari? Ryoji or Ryohji Kaji? Asuka Soryu or Sohryu? The list goes on. This debate is mostly just a microcosm of a debate that can make language forums run ankle-deep in blood: Which Romanization scheme to use for Japanese? It's even uglier for Korean (and there, there's also an asinine "don't romanize at all" thing, because apparently only hangeul can even ''approximate'' Korean's sacred phonemes)
:Given how much chaos can be caused by conflicting romanization schemes, the "Don't romanize at all" thing may simply be a result of getting fed up with having to figure out from examples which romanization scheme is being used ''this'' time, which means practically that if you don't have one very dominant, you have to learn ''all'' the schemes for the language. Meanwhile, just using the original writing system means the only romanization scheme anybody ''needs'' to know is the romanization scheme they use—and/or the one you have to use to type in the language.
** Pronunciation of the title also sets off arguments, especially when the original Greek is brought into the mess.
** And then there's all the remaining [[Mind Screw|confusion over half of what was going on]] due to [[All There in the Manual|a lot of additional material]] [[No Export for You|never getting translated and brought over]]. Even when it was brought over via word-of-mouth, some fans refuse to accept any of it as canon.
* Hardcore ''[[Rurouni Kenshin]]'' fans really tend to hate anybody who calls it "Samurai X". Funnily enough, the author ''likes'' that term and even referenced it on his next work, ''[[Busou Renkin]]''.
* The two girls in ''[[Please Twins!]]
* Pronouncing the word "Eureka" as anything but ee-oou-reck-ah will cause [[Eureka Seven|certain fans]] to cringe. Even when you're talking about [[Eureka|another series entirely]].
** Interestingly, in Modern Greek "eureka" is pronounced "evrika".
* For a ''[[Ranma
* Chances are, if you mention "Robotech", you're going to have to listen to why ''Robotech'' sucks, why Harmony Gold sucks, why it ruined ''Macross'', and a number of other things, that usually don't relate to the other two series ''Robotech'' used. Even if it is a Robotech video on Youtube...
** Nearly every single Macross video has at least one Robotech basher who just randomly starts the bashing without any provocation or anyone mentioning Robotech before the basher does.
* Only some "
* On at least one forum, posters can be targeted by cries of "[[Mahou Sensei Negima|NEGIMA]] BANNED!!" for calling Negi's mother {{spoiler|Akira}} or referring to his cousin Nekane as his biological sister. Generally, though, Negima fans seem fairly understanding, because [[The Law of Conservation of Detail|there's]] [[Chekhov's Armoury|a lot]] [[Kudzu Plot|to keep]] [[Loads and Loads of Characters|track of]]...
* ''[[Tales From Earthsea]]'' runs into this trope. Most purist fans insist on referring to the film by its Japanese name, ''Gedo Senki''. In fact, most [[Studio Ghibli]] films get this treatment from the purists. The most notable example of fans' refusal to use an English name is ''[[Princess Mononoke]]'' (referred to almost universally as ''Mononoke-hime''), with ''[[Spirited Away]]'' (''Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi'') third most likely to suffer from this).
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* Don't ever call ''[[Bleach]]'''s Sexta Espada "Grimmjaw". You. Will. Be. ANNIHILATED. People also take issue with most of the Espada's names (partially because they released an official Romanization for their names long after they were introduced). Nnoitra Jiruga is officially Romanized as Nnoitora Gilga, and Szayel Aporro is officially one word, but most people still call them by their original names. Before that was Harribel, incorrectly called Halibel, and Baraggan, which is such a subtle change from Barragan that people probably didn't notice the difference.
* Debate on the correct Romanization of ''[[Hellsing]]'' character Seras Victoria's name can get nasty. Some alternate spellings are Celes, Celas, and Ceres. That's not even to mention confusion over whether Victoria is her surname (in the British order) or her given name (in the Japanese order).
* Due to the nature of [[
* Many people who got into ''[[Wandering Son]]'' by the anime think Chiba's full name is "Chiba Saorin". "Saorin" is actually a nickname used by Sasa
== Comic Books ==
* There's sometimes confusion about whether it's ''[[Watchmen]]'' or "The Watchmen." This provoked a lot of fan-rage when the movie came out, especially because "watchmen" was an [[Arc Words|Arc Word]] in the comic, and became the name of a superhero team in the movie..
* ''[[Spider-Man]]'''s title gets this a lot. As ''[[Friends]]'' helpfully explains:
{{quote|
'''Chandler:''' "Because it's not his last name."
'''Phoebe:''' "It isn't?"
'''Chandler:''' "No, it's not like he's Phil Spiderman. He's a SPIDER <beat> MAN. You know, like 'Goldman' is a last name, but there's no '[[Chrome Champion|Gold-man]]'." }}
* This sometimes happens regarding [[Lex Luthor]]'s name in Superman media, particularly [[Justice League Unlimited]]. A talk show host interviewing Luthor, who happens to be running for President at the time, pronounces it Luther, while in another episode Superman gets it right by forcing the 'thor' part.
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* Calling a [[Mac]] a "MAC" will earn you the ire of Apple fans.<ref>A Mac is a brand of computer. A McIntosh is a variety of apple, not a variety of Apple (though it is a variety of expensive audio gear). A MAC is part of a network interface (if you're a geek) or a store where high school girls buy overpriced makeup (if you're not).</ref> Same with calling the iPod "IPOD," "I-POD," or "Ipod."
** Or calling an iPod Touch an "iTouch".
* Do not, I repeat, DO NOT admit to using Internet Explorer to anyone in any IT department
** If you admit to using a Mac, you will get flamed ([[Critical Research Failure|probably about the lack of mouse buttons]]). If you admit to using Microsoft Windows, you will get flamed ([[Critical Research Failure|probably about the constant crashes]]). If you admit to using Linux, you will get flamed (as a pre-emptive measure to stop you evangelising). If you admit to dual- or multi-booting, you will get flamed by everyone at once.
** An exception: if the IT department installed Internet Explorer on your workstation before issuing it to you, and they don't make Firefox or Chrome available, do not admit to using anything other than IE.
* Among programmers, making a Perl/PERL/PEARL/Pearl/perl mistake can [[Critical Research Failure|lead to someone losing all credibility.]] In general, the capitalization thing for computer language names can get sticky. Especially for older languages, which had a tendency to start life as all caps abbreviations and then become mixed case in later standardization efforts. LISP ("LISt Processing") and FORTRAN ("FORmula TRANslating System") are now just Lisp and Fortran. COBOL is still COBOL, though.
* The editor of one early (late 1970s) British computer magazine persistently claimed that the difference between compilers and interpreters was "academic", even in the face of corrections from knowledgeable readers, until one month he learned the hard way just how wrong he was, by wasting three pages of the mag on a worthless hex-dump of the workspace of a BASIC interpreter. The mag didn't last very much longer after that issue.
* Any real-life incident where a tech support person gets a call that starts out with "We bought the internet from you", "Is this the internet?", "I think I need to reboot the internet", "I deleted the internet" will lead to ''vicious'' mocking.
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** Be very careful about who you talk to. Most other distros' users will get a bit irritated with you if you call the kernel GNU/Linux. Some Debian users do too. For further clarification this goes back to a very old argument between Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman over who should get credit for free operating systems.
* Call Microcomputers such as the Commodore 64, ZX Spectrum and the Amiga "PCs" in front of Microcomputer fans.
* It's the [[
== Fashion ==
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== Literature ==
*
* Referring to any of the books of ''[[The Inheritance Cycle]]'' as a "[[Doorstopper|brick]]" can ''actually get you in trouble with the staff'' in some quarters. But in other places, even on fansites, the staff call them "bricks" too, but used as a term of affection rather than, well, ridicule and scorn.
* In Mary Shelley's ''[[Frankenstein (novel)|Frankenstein]]; or, The Modern Prometheus'', Victor Frankenstein constructs and brings to life [[Frankenstein's Monster|his Creature]] or, if you prefer, Monster. The Creature itself is never named. Thanks to scads of largely terrible films, comics and stage plays, people have been using the term "Frankenstein" to refer to his Creature (and being criticized for it) since the 19th century. Yup, [[Older Than Radio]].
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** '''Technology at Hogwarts''' isn't permissible in any dose.
*** Things that work electronically, as below, ''do not work.'' Things that work ''mechanically,'' such as Harry's watch, do work.
*** Also, technology in Diagon Alley or the Ministry of Magic is usually fine, as both locations are right in the middle of London and yet there's no apparent disruption of service to all their Muggle neighbors. (And given that the Ministry in particular is directly underneath Whitehall, you'd think people would notice if all the electronics in the center of British government stopped working.)
** '''Hermione's name''' is Hermione. Unless you're Grawp or Viktor. There are absolutely no other exceptions. "Hermy" is an elf from ''[[Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]''.
*** It's "Hermine" in Germany.
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** There was a throwaway joke in the first book were the Weasley twins were given sweaters with their initials on them. This prompted them to say they wouldn't forget their names, they are Gred and Forge. The fandom took this joke and ran with it, nearly every fic about the two of them has one of them refer to the other by this nickname. And almost all of them get it wrong. They mistakenly call Fred Gred and George Forge. But it's the other way around as the joke was that they remembered what the first letter of their names were (presumably because it was on their sweater) but it was the rest that they got confused on. Meaning Fred was Forge and George was Gred.
* The eponymous entity in the [[Cthulhu Mythos]] has a name that will never have an agreed pronunciation (especially since Lovecraft himself used no fewer than three different pronunciations depending on when you asked him), and each pronunciation has a following that will ridicule and shun those who pronounce it differently.
** Even worse are the discussions in fandom what the Elder Sign looks like - a star of a tree. Problem is that in different stories it is described as either. Mocked in the musical ''[[A Shoggoth
* In the presence of hardcore [[Lewis Carroll|Carrollians]], never refer to the Hatter as the Mad Hatter, or to the Jabberwock as the [[I Am Not Shazam|Jabberwocky]].
* [[P. G.
== Live-Action TV ==
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'':
** Referring to everyone's favorite Time Lord as "[[Doctor Who]]", or his show as ''Dr. Who,'' is ''not'' going to ingratiate you with the fanbase. The origin of all the confusion, as noted on the main ''[[Doctor Who]]'' page, is that the name for the character during the show's development was originally "Dr. Who," a name that was retained in the credits and internal documentation for over 20 years, despite the fact that the character was never called that on-screen except in [[Mythology Gag
*** Interestingly enough, in the [[
** Using "Timelord" instead of "Time Lord" or any spelling other than TARDIS is a bad idea.
** It's also probably a good idea to avoid referring to the actor that played the Fifth Doctor as "Peter Davidson," unless you enjoy the thought of being lectured on how [[Peter Davison]] is an actor, while Peter Davidson is the guy who used to draw Desperate Dan in ''The Dandy''
*** [[Doctor Who Magazine]]'s Fifth Doctor announcement managed to mess this up , reading "PETER DAVIDSON '''IS''' THE DOCTOR" (they lampshaded this later when Davison got a cover for "Time Crash").
* Jim intentionally did this to irritate Dwight on ''[[The Office]]''. After an ethics meeting where they were told to avoid "Time Theft" in the workplace, Jim had a deliberately loud conversation with Andy about the ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' TV show. During that conversation, he talked about how the show has [[Star Trek|Klingons]] and [[Star Wars|Wookiees]], is a shot-for-shot remake of the original, and is about a character named [[Harry Potter|Dumbledore]] [[Star Wars|Calrissian]] who has to [[The Lord of the Rings|return a ring to Mordor]]. Meanwhile, Dwight is seething at his desk, trying his hardest to refrain from getting involved in this non-work-related conversation.
* It's quite easy to get
* Confusing ''[[Star Wars]]'' with ''[[Star Trek]]'' in the presence of either fandom is [[Fandom Rivalry|one of the most brutal suicide methods known to man.]] A [[Troll]] jokingly asked in a [[YouTube]] comment if [[Star Trek: The Next Generation|TNG]] was "the one with the ewoks". Insta-[[Flame War]].
* On ''[[The Price Is Right]]'', "Showcase Showdown" is when they spin the big wheel; "Showcase" is when they bid on the prize packages. Many people have been chewed out for confusing the two.
* A lot of ''[[Super Sentai]]'' purists get pissy if you use ''[[Power Rangers]]''-specific terminology in the context of ''Sentai'' (i.e. "Zords" instead of "mecha") or if you refer to a ''Super Sentai'' character by the name of their ''Power Rangers'' counterpart (i.e. Rita Repulsa instead of Bandora the Witch). Some fans even go as far as to insist on using the term ''senshi'' (the Japanese word for warrior) instead of "ranger" when talking about the members of a Sentai (since the term "ranger" wasn't used for any of the teams prior to ''[[Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger]]'', with the exceptions of ''[[Himitsu Sentai Goranger]]'' and ''[[Kousoku Sentai Turboranger]]''). Although, the introduction of the "Ranger Keys" in ''[[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger]]'' has made the term "Ranger" a bit more acceptable as a substitute for ''senshi'' among purists. The following series''[[Tokumei Sentai Gobusters]]'' has introduced Megazord into the Sentai lexicon as well as the phrase "It's Morphin Time".
** Speaking of [[Power Rangers]], Jason David Frank was once booed for saying that he would have preferred it if Steve Cardenas had returned for Forever Red instead of Austin St. John.
* Calling any version of [[Stargate Verse|Stargate]] "StarGate" or "Star Gate" will cause every fan of the series in the world to tell you just how wrong you are, and how it's nothing like ''[[Star Trek]]'' or ''[[Star Wars]]''.
* Confusing the British original and American remake versions of ''[[Skins]]'' is likely to get you
== Music ==
* That famous [[Lynyrd Skynyrd]] song with the long guitar solo? It's called Free Bird, not Freebird. Diehard Skynyrd fans
* Luca Turilli's first album is 'King of the Nordic Twilight'. The tenth track on said album is 'Kings of the Nordic Twilight'. Remember this if you do not wish to be set on fire.
* Quiet Riot's song "Metal Health (Bang Your Head)", or "Bang Your Head (Metal Health)". Calling it just "Bang Your Head" is [[Tempting Fate]].
* Metalcore (or any word with "-core" in it except maybe grindcore) is not considered '''metal'''. It's best not to call metalcore metal on a metal forum. On second thought, it's best not to mention metalcore at all. There is also quite a bit of rivalry between fans of the two almost entirely different genres named "power metal", one of which was formed in America in the early '80s, the other of which arose in Germany several years later.
* Groundlessly bashing [[Hideto Matsumoto|hide]] or Munetaka Higuchi or Jasmine You or anyone else who is dead on pretty much any
** Neither hide's nor Jasmine's deaths have an exact official cause. hide's may have been an accident, or it may have been suicide—he can't tell us so we'll never know. Jasmine definitely died of an illness, but the exact illness was never specified. So, it's common for people to speculate, and sensible guesses are often sort of tolerated. But sometimes people come out with really, genuinely silly, often downright offensive [[Epileptic Trees]] such as "hide killed himself just to piss off Yoshiki" or "Hizaki killed Jasmine You". These are the people who will end up in trouble, and it serves them right, really.
*
** The [[Pink Floyd]] example was actually referenced in their song "Have A Cigar":
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** And later ''[[The Wall]]'' was sort of written about the life of a character named Pink.
* You're unlikely to be slaughtered for it, but expect some groans, sighs and face-palms if you walk onto a forum/comments page/website/whatever for a Visual Kei band or song and ask something along the lines of "Are they all men?" or "Such-and-such is a woman, right?" Hardly anyone finds these questions bad in their own right, it's just that they get asked so many times that people get fed up with having to answer them.
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* If you're discussing [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] with any serious classical fan, don't make the mistake of mentioning how Salieri poisoned him. ''[[Amadeus]]'' plays ''quite'' fast and loose with historical fact; it was never intended to be a Mozart biopic so much as just the film of Shaffer's play. Pretty much no reputable Mozart scholar out there thinks Salieri poisoned him or plotted against him, and in fact, the two men actually got along quite well and greatly respected each other. Salieri also had nothing to do with either the commission for or the completion of Mozart's ''Requiem''. And by the way, Salieri wasn't the talentless hack portrayed in the movie. In fact, he taught Beethoven ''and'' Schubert along with being one of the most successful composers of ''his'' time (even if its popularity died down after his death).
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* Don't call into a classic rock station and request "[[The Who]]'s Teenage Wasteland". Not only will they not play it, but they may come to your house and work you over.
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* Some people think "Down with the Sickness" by [[Disturbed]] is simply called "Sickness" (possibly with a "the" added). Disturbed fans aren't happy about it.
** Also, the final track on the same album is "Meaning of Life" despite many who might claim it's called "Psycho".
* Eve of Destiny are Goth. Not Visual Kei. [[Serious Business|This point is nowhere near as trivial as it seems]]. Anyone who calls
* Many fans of Canadian band
* A rare case of [[Canon]]
** Also, Led Zeppelin is a band
** Though causal fans might take a bit of ribbing if they say "Zo-so" instead of
** [[Led Zeppelin]]'s fourth album does not have a title. Call it "the fourth album" or "the untitled album", and you should be fine. In some circles, calling it "Led Zeppelin IV" will give you away as only a casual fan. Call it "the Hermit Album," "the one with 'Stairway to Heaven'" or "Zoso" and you will be held beneath contempt.
* ''[[The Phantom of the Opera]].'' Serious opera fans will slaughter you if you say ''Phantom'' is the last opera you saw.
** Same thing if you tell an old school ''Phantom'' fan that you just loved the 2004 movie or the stage sequel.
** Naming John Williams as your favorite "modern music" composer is likely to get you Gannon Banned by most serious classical music fans on its own. Same with Danny Elfman, or Andrew Lloyd Webber, or any modern film/Broadway composer, but John Williams is a huge [[Berserk Button]] since so much of his music is directly-copied from, if not ''heavily'' influenced by, older works.
* Do
* If you refer to a well-known song, especially one involved in [[Memetic Mutation]], by its catchiest lyric, there is a very good chance someone will swoop in and insist you refer to it by the "proper title", which is usually much less known and thus does a poorer job of conveying which song you're talking about.
* Spelling [[Metallica]] as "Mettalica" won't get a nice reaction.
* Referring to any member of the [[Backstreet Boys]] ''except'' Kevin Richardson as a "former Backstreet Boy" is an instant [[Berserk Button]] trigger for BSB fans.
* Never
* ''[[DragonForce]]''{{'}}s [[That One Level|famed song from]] [[Guitar Hero]] is "Through The Fire And Flames". "Through The Fire And ''The'' Flames" is a lyric from said song. Also, ZP was ZP's actual first name, not initials.
* On the Band Geek side: Gorramnit, people, trumpets are NOT the awesome ones with the slides!!
* It's [[Beatles]], not "Beetles"! (This troper recalls an article in his high school newspaper about George Harrison's death - the student who wrote the article
** If you don't know who wrote the song, you probably shouldn't guess. Saying something like "I love 'Here Comes the Sun'! It's my favorite song by Lennon" (or any other song with the incorrect songwriter) could earn you ridicule from a die-hard fan.
* Do not ever call the group [[Gorillaz]] "Gorllias", or even worse, "The Gorillas".
* Attempting to define [[Enter Shikari]] as anything at all will generally cause backlash from the fans as they are considered to be in no genre in particular, though naming particular genres present in particular songs is certainly acceptable. This can be disregarded if the term being used is non-serious or affection in nature (Entershikaricore)
* Imply that [[Lady Gaga]] isn't as original as her fans think she is, or that her music isn't the ultimate expression of pop music greatness, in the presence of her fans and you'd better have your life insurance paid up. They might even come after your family...
== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[
** D&D has demons and devils. Many, many fans commonly mistake the two and nearly just as many are really [[Fan Dumb|anal]] about fans who can't get it right. And when you throw in the fact that the most common kind of both demons and devils have more specific names (Tanar'ri and Baatezu respectively), it all just gets very messy, very fast. Not to mention other kinds like obyrith and archdevils that more [[Serious Business|pure-blooded]] fans know about.
** Furthermore, if you don't want to start an edition war, do not use past and present tenses to describe changes between 3.5 and 4th edition, e.g., "there is no lawful evil alignment anymore". And please, for the love of Pelor,
** Misspelling [[Rouge Angles of Satin|"rogue" as "rouge"]] will get you flamed in most online fora.
** "Minionions of Set" was such a common spelling error, they made it into an actual magic item. ([[Joke Item]], of course.
* Even in the game world itself, referring to [[Paranoia|The Computer]] as "the Computer" or, worse, "the computer" can get you ''executed.''▼
** Crossing over into [[Memetic Mutation]] was [https://selinker.livejournal.com/32929.html the "dawizard mistake"]. When the ''Encyclopedia Magica'' was edited, they used a search-and-replace run to change "mage" to "wizard", due to the name of that class being changed for the 2nd Edition. Unfortunately, it also changed "damage" and "image" to "dawizard" and "iwizard."
▲* ''[[Paranoia (game)|Paranoia]]'': Even in the game world itself, referring to
== Science ==
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* Old guys like to remind you that the New York Giants are actually the New York ''Football'' Giants.
** Which '''is''' actually the team's full name, and appears on the wall behind the endzones during home games at their new stadium.
* Pick a stadium in the US that's
** One of the most insane examples: The park formerly known as Comiskey. Charles Comiskey is heralded as one of the worst sports owners; he intentionally made sure his Chicago White Sox players got less meal money than the league average and often skimped on ''washing their uniforms.'' All that led to Sox players conspiring to throw the 1919 World Series in one of sports' worst scandals. The White Sox never returned to the World Series in the next
*** We still call it the '''Sears''' Tower, too!
* The one time you'll get a pass for calling park by a corporate name is if it's never had a non-corporate one, or if the non-corporate name is unknown by most fans. If the corporate sponsor changes, generally use the most well-known name, which is usually the first one.
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* As [[Penny Arcade|Gabe]] [http://www.penny-arcade.com/2003/6/13/ discovered], [[LEGO]] fans are all too ready to point out that the plural of LEGO is LEGO.
** Funnily enough, this rule gets broken in the first ''[[Lego Island]]'' game at one point.
* Calling Toa or Matoran "[[Bionicle
** Heck, pluralizing the ''title'' will get you obliterated.
== Video Games ==
* The game is called [[Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Brothers]],
** Asking for Super Mario Bros. 4 to be made will lead irked fans to point out that ''it already exists''
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'':
** The page name/image refers to the [[Big Bad]] Ganondorf,
** Claiming that there is only one Link, that the games were released in chronological order, etc., is liable to get you laughed out of any timeline forum. Likewise is redirecting anyone with a timeline question to the Gametrailers timeline.
** The "Tetra"force theory, which
** [[I Am Not Shazam|Call Link "Zelda" around any LoZ fan and prepare to get yelled at.]]
** For your own safety, don't call ''Zelda'' an [[RPG]]. It's an Action-Adventure Game.
** [[Vindicated by History|
**
*** According to pretty much every non-human entity in those games, Hylians are humans. Presumably the ears are just long.
* ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'':
** Go to a random community, mention "Hyper Shadow", and watch [[Satan]] himself flinch in fear of the [[Flame War|backlash]] you get.
** For that matter, mention any of old backstory used in English speaking countries prior to ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'' and you'll likely be blasted by a group of "Only the Japanese stuff counts" purists. Which will then trigger a
** Mixing up the [[Sonic the Comic|British/Egmont/Fleetway]] comic with the [[Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)|American/Archie]] comic (which, while having a
** Questioning whether the events of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006
** [[Viewer Gender Confusion|Tails is not a girl]], and never has been. People will gladly tell you this repeatedly.
** Calling Amy "Amy the Hedgehog" will give you some flak, though you can get into a debate that her full-name is "Amy Rose the Hedgehog". Likewise, calling Tekno from the Fleetway comics "Techno" is a bad idea.
** Debating whether Ivo's real name is "Robotnik" or "Eggman" is another classic flame war kickstarter. Sega settled the issue ([[Take a Third Option|both names are official]]) but even this works as well as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]]'s word on [[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Sheik's gender]].
** Oh and do
* ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'':
** In some fan communities, there are those who will insist on using only the Japanese names (Rockman instead of Mega Man, Forte instead of Bass, etc.) and will insist that only the events as detailed in the Japanese games are "true," even if the community is based on the American games with American fans. And even if the fan-work being discussed is ''explicitly'' based on the American continuity.
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* ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'' has fans constantly arguing over the hero's name being Crono or Chrono, and choosing between Frog and Glenn. In the first case it's justified, since the character names could only have up to five letters.
* ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]'' has this persistant FWAK entry about Palom and Porom <ref>specifically, there was a rumor spread around stating they have they can be retrieved after their [[Heroic Sacrifice]]</ref> in several walkthroughs with FWAK entries in them. Repeating them in forums can be a bad idea.
* ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'', like ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]'' before, has FWAK entries,
* [[Hilarity Ensues]] if you refer to [[Final Fantasy VIII|Squall Leonheart]] as Squall Lionheart or, God forbid, Leon Loire.
* There are people who tend to complain about the Shadaloo bosses having the "wrong names" whenever they get to play the Japanese version of a ''[[Street Fighter]]'' game, unaware of the fact that the names were actually switched for the overseas version of the series: the black boxer M. Bison became Balrog overseas, the Spanish Ninja Balrog became Vega, and the Shadaloo overlord Vega became M. Bison.
** Also, using "Shadowlaw," "Shadowloo," or "Shadaloo" will garner criticism depending on where you are.
* In ''[[Deus Ex]]'', early pirated copies of the game (that didn't include sound because of the internet speed at the time of release) would not allow players to get on the boat and go from the 1st level to the 2nd because the game required a sound clip play (and the soundclip wasn't present in the pirated copy). This has leads to pirates marking themselves as such by asking "How I get on the boat" [sic] questions on various fourms. [[Flame War
* There's a ''lot'' of nastiness in ''[[Pokémon]]'' fandom over names. It usually results from differing translations or romanizations, works of dubious canonicity, and good old fashioned obtuseness.
** When
* ''[[Devil May Cry]]'' fans used to have a civil war over whether one of the bosses in the original game was named Nelo Angelo or Nero Angelo. This has pretty much been laid to rest with the introduction of a character named Nero who is distinct from the aforementioned boss.
** Related, there was a
* Gamers have a tendency to ''flip out'' at people (especially journalists) who get the name of the
* Go to the ''[[Escape Velocity|EV:Nova]]'' webboard and ask about the "Vellos", "Velos
* This trope can go either way, in that Pyramid Head (debuting in ''[[Silent Hill 2]]'') has been seen in other games and the movie. Some rabid fans say that this is
* In ''[[Metroid]]'' fandom, calling Samus [[I Am Not Shazam|"Metroid"]] or even, god forbid, saying "I love Metroid, '''[[Samus Is a Girl|he's]]''' so cool in these games" is considered a horrible crime.
** [[Samus Is a Girl
* ''[[Kirby]]'':
** His name is '''Meta Knight''', damn it! The Meta-Knights are the group of swordsmen he leads and Metaknight doesn't exist!
* [[Star Fox]] is the name of the mercenary unit where Fox McCloud works. It is NOT his name. This misconception isn't helped by the fact that Andross seemingly uses this name to refer to Fox at the end of ''[[Star Fox 64]]'' (Andross was actually talking about the team in general, but in context it looks like he's just addressing Fox).▼
** Don't call Kirby evil with a straight face unless you want angry fans to strike. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AQKpfhiq4o MatPat has fallen into this trap before.]
* Spelling Jak's name with an added ''c'' or Daxter with an ''e'' is a [[Berserk Button]] for many [[Jak and Daxter]] fans. If you're lucky, they'll facepalm and point out your mistake. If not, they'll eat you alive.▼
** Kirby's [[Pink Means Feminine|pink color]] and [[Cross-Dressing Voices|female voice actor]] have made some [[Viewer Gender Confusion|think he's a girl.]] However, he's always been called a "he" in English localizations and he's gender-neutral in Japan.
* When someone looks at some piece of [[Touhou]] fanart and asks "What anime is this?" flames are to be expected.▼
** It's "Dream Land" (two words). Not "Dreamland" (one word). It's a common mistake, even on [[This Very Wiki]].
* Never mention the "Giygas fetus theory" on an [[Earthbound]] forum. You WILL get banned (temporarily, at least).▼
** [[Kirby Star Allies|Morpho Knight]] is ''not'' a prototype design of Meta Knight. The concept art of Morpho Knight is dated [[Newer Than They Think|2004]], 11 years after the release of Meta Knight's debut game ''[[Kirby's Adventure]]'', and [[Non-Standard Character Design|it doesn't even fit in with early '90s Kirby artworks]]. The reason for this misconception [[Poor Communication Kills|is that it's placed in Meta Knight's section in a 20th anniversary artbook]], and it's even been [https://www.ndw.jp/kirby_04/ confirmed] that the artwork was meant for the [[What Could Have Been|cancelled GCN game]] (not ''Air Ride'').
* The main character of ''[[Kid Icarus]]'' is Pit. Trying to say his name is Icarus will get you laughed out of any Nintendo forum.▼
▲* [[Star Fox]] is the name of the mercenary unit where Fox McCloud works. [[I Am Not Shazam|It is
▲* Spelling Jak's name with an added ''c'' or Daxter with an ''e'' is a [[Berserk Button]] for many ''[[Jak and Daxter]]'' fans. If you're lucky, they'll facepalm and point out your mistake. If not, they'll eat you alive.
▲* When someone looks at some piece of ''[[Touhou]]'' fanart and asks "What anime is this?" flames are to be expected.
▲* Never mention the "Giygas fetus theory" on
▲* The main character of ''[[Kid Icarus]]'' is Pit.
== Web Comics ==
* In ''[[The
** Not a name-related issue, but speculating on the comic's frequent [[Schedule Slip]] on the [[Fora]] is grounds for having your post locked and receiving an infraction.
* On the [[Fora]] of ''[[Looking for Group]]'', anyone ignorant enough to post anything even hinting that they think the comic is a ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' story happening in Azeroth will get beaten up, crucified, eaten and shot, in that order. Despite the fact that the comic started as a Warcraft parody (though only for a very brief period) and incredibly obviously took significant inspiration from the games.
* ''[[Gunnerkrigg Court]]'': The third girl from the photo is ''not'' Jones, and she is ''not'' related to Gamma in any way. Fans continued to speculate to the contrary, even though [[Word of God|Tom]] [[Jossed]] those theories, within hours of their first proposal, then put [[The Rant|a note to that effect below the comic]]. At one point, a forum regular who should have known better suggested that this speculation should be a ban-worthy offense. This specific line of [[Wild Mass Guessing]] seems to have stopped now that it's been unambiguously confirmed in-comic that the photo girl and Jones are different people.
* ''[[Dreamkeepers]]'' fans are usually pretty torn when it comes to pronouncing Namah's name. Some people say NAA-MUH, while others believe it to be NAY-MUH and refuse to back down in their opinions.
* ''[[Las Lindas]]'' author Soul Kat has a big [[Berserk Button]] related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin.
== Web Original ==
* [[Halo|The origin]] of the
* Don't speculate on the ''[[Homestar Runner]]'' wiki. Don't forget to sign your posts. And for your own sake, if you don't want a month long banning,
* Do not talk about ''[[Mallard Fillmore]]'' at ''[[The Comics Curmudgeon]]''.
== Western Animation ==
* [[All Animation Is Disney|Call a Don Bluth movie a Disney movie]] when there are [[Don Bluth]] fans around. You'll be sure to irk someone.
* In the [[Live Action Adaptation]] of ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', [[M. Night Shyamalan]] changed the pronounciations of some of the characters' names, most notably the main character, from their
* Any hardcore Disney fan will pointedly tell you, [[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]]'s dress ''is not blue''! This can be blamed on the [[Disney Princess]] marketing, in which a lot of the merchandise shows Cinderella in a blue dress, despite the fact that she never wore that color in the original movies.
** You'll get just as much flak for saying that her hair is blonde, which is understandable as the merchandise and
* ''Never'' refer to ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'' as "The Powderpuff Girls", or someone is going to get mad. In fact, that happened to the Girls themselves, intentionally, in a [[Cartoon Network]] promotional cartoon where they break into The Legion of Doom's headquarters (as in, the villains from the old ''[[Super Friends]]'' cartoon) to rescue [[Aquaman]] and [[Wonder Woman]]. Lex Luthor makes the mistake of calling them "the Powderpuff Girls". Needless to say, they're not amused.
* ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' fans hate it when someone spells it "Looney TOONS". Unfortunately for them, people at Warner Bros. actually use that spelling too.
* In-universe example for ''[[Superman: The Animated Series]]'': When [[Superman]] mispronounces the name of Mr. Mxyzptlk (Mix-Yes-Spit-Lick) as Mr. Miz-Ill-Plick, said [[Reality Warper]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHJuEbNB0u8 promptly corrects him on it]. This was done as a [[Take That]] to how his name was mispronounced in the original [[Superfriends]] cartoon.
* The aftermath of asking most fans what Robin's real name is in ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' [[Internet Backdraft|will definitely not be pretty.]]
* Confusing ''[[My Little Pony]]'' characters for each other.
* ''[[Family Guy]]'' fans hate it when people and the media call it ''The Family Guy''.
* There was a small incident in the ''[[Transformers Prime]]'' fandom, right after
* This attitude is mercilessly mocked in ''[[Animaniacs]]'' with an ad for the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNJ6dFwh8a4 Please Please Pleese Get A Life Foundation.] In fact, the [[Straw Fan]] at the beginning and end of the segment says things reminiscent of most of the examples on this page.
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