Guns Are Worthless: Difference between revisions

* Both ''[[Vampire: The Masquerade]]'' and ''[[Vampire: The Requiem]]'' rely on this. As vampires don't really have working circulatory systems, and everything else is functional solely because of [[The Power of Blood]], guns will, for the most part, do bashing damage rather than lethal (comparative with being hit with a sledgehammer). Enough bullets will still screw them up (as will headshots, in some cases), but as guns mainly do damage by causing bleedout, vampires don't really have much to worry about.

** Averted when shooting at mortals, however. Guns do lethal damage to living targets, which most mortals cannot soak (try to ignore damage from), and deal more damage—and faster—than all but the most optimized melee builds. One to three hits from even the weakest pistol in the game will kill or incapacitate a human.

* Played straight in ''[[Scion]]'' where guns can are significantly less effective on the demi-gods characters than they are on mortals. Also, a gun will kill a mortal human but the game presents so many more effective ways to do so, like crossbows, which have a range and accuracy rating superior to a 9mm.

* ''2E [[Mutants and Masterminds]]'' exhibits this, much to the frustration of many of the players. Standard guns top out a 2-5 ranks of damage, equivalent to a good hard punch by a trained baseline human. Most PC heroes begin at a 10 Toughness bonus, meaning that, when hit by an assault rifle, they're going to avoid any injury half of the time. The addition of Impervious removes the save entirely. Of course, its a game about comic-book superheroes, so you're ''supposed'' to be bulletproof. As statted, normal civilians do reliably suffer serious injury if hit by firearms.