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** Warren's friends ''didn't have anything to do with Tara's murder'' - it was all Warren's doing. Buffy pointed out that while Warren ''might'' have deserved to die, Jonathan and Andrew didn't - if Willow had killed ''them'', she would definitely have been unable to forgive herself later.
*** Debatable. Jonathan and Andrew were accessories to Warren killing Katrina, helped him frame Buffy for said murder, were accomplices that drugged Buffy which led to the scoobies's near deaths by an out of control Slayer, and, in general, made life living hell for the scoobies for months and months, and this team endangered multiple people in Sunnydale with their actions. They played a part in Warren going out of control and could have prevented Warren from killing two people and nearly killing another along with his various other actions.
**** While Jonathan and Andrew unquestionably share liability for many of Warren's earlier crimes, as they were accomplices, they have no liability for Tara's death. Warren made the choice to go shooting at Buffy's house of his own free will, and he did it entirely by himself. Indeed, Jonathan and Andrew had already left Warren's gang entirely by that point.
*** Also, the whole "destroy the world thing" was motivated by an influx of POSITIVE magical energy that she drained out of Giles (who had borrowed it). This upped her powers to the point where she could feel an empathic connection to almost every living thing on the planet, but all the dark energy inside her and her own pain and grief left her overwhelmed by all the suffering and pain. She decided that destroying the world would be an act of mercy for everyone involved.
* Holtz from ''[[Angel]]''. He is so obsessed with obtaining "justice" against Angelus that he followed him into the future, disregarded all the myriad evidence of Angel's reformation, and did all he can to make Angel suffer psychologically, to the point of {{spoiler|kidnapping his son, Connor, and raising him to hate Angel. Although, at the end, he seems to make a comeback when he mentions that love has overcome hate. This turns out to be a ruse; he even uses his own death as further fuel to get Connor to take his revenge for him.}}
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* ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' does an extrapolation of ''[[Revenge of the Nerds]]'' and points out how what the Nerds do is worse that what was done to them, and that what they did was in fact illegal.
* [[Space: Above and Beyond]] gives us Col. Ray Butts, who apparently was born mean and became meaner from being a Marine lifer—he's racist against [[In Vitros]], picks pointless fights with the Wildcards, antagonizes McQueen by taking the squad away from him for a mission he won't explain to anyone, and changes mission parameters mid-mission, again without any sort of explanation. It gets to the point where the squad briefly wonders if he might have killed his previous squad members when they fight a dead marine's body on the planet. {{spoiler|the squad was actually killed by chigs when they wanted to wait for reinforcements--causing Butts to leave them in disgust to do the mission on his own}}
 
 
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