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{{trope}}
[[File:spears.jpg|link=Britney Spears|frame| "Whale".]]
 
 
{{quote|''Some girls try it, and go on a diet
''Then they worry cause they's too fat
''Who wants to ride on an ironing board?
''That ain't no fun
''I tried me one''|'''[[Frank Zappa]]''', "S.E.X."}}
|'''[[Frank Zappa]]''', "S.E.X."}}
 
Many women and girls in real life have body image issues that lead them to obsess about food and think of themselves as fat even when they're well within healthy weight limits, or even if they're trim or underweight.
 
Like [[Hollywood Homely]] characters, if you took the [['''Hollywood Pudgy]]''' character out of her movie and plunked her down among a representative sample of real women, she'd fit in because she looks normal, even good in comparison. She'd be no fashion model or typical movie star, coming to nearly six feet and not reaching a hundred twenty pounds. As an average American (usually) woman, the [['''Hollywood Pudgy]]''' character is or appears to be overweight by medical standards but not nearly obese. She'd have no trouble fitting through bus turnstiles or into a cute bathing suit, and wouldn't have her doctor telling her she must lose twenty pounds for the sake of her heart and pancreas.
 
This does not apply in stories where a skinny woman thinks of herself fat, but is shown to have an eating disorder or body image problem. That would probably fall under [[I Am Not Pretty]] instead. Satirical examples hang a lantern on the absurdity of calling normal healthy women "fat".
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The same thing applies somewhat to men as well, although not anywhere to the same degree. A slender, athletic build is considered better than a stronger, stocky build. If you don't have large shoulders you're either considered chubby or scrawny. If you have a thick neck and any hint of a double-chin, on the other hand, you can still be an "[[This Loser Is You|everyman]]" sitcom hero: the female equivalent is not allowed to be shown on television except as an unintelligent, totally pathetic [[Abhorrent Admirer]] fit only for belittling ridicule.
 
Compare [[Hollywood Homely]], [[Unkempt Beauty]], [[Muscle Angst]], and [[BBWBig Beautiful Woman]]. Contrast [[Informed Attractiveness]] and of course [[Hollywood Thin]].
 
'''Note:''' Under the examples, PLEASE only include those who are ''explicitly identified as overweight'' despite ''not actually being overweight''! This is NOT the page for actors of normal body type playing characters of normal body type, nor for genuinely fat actors playing genuinely fat characters. Anything that is drawn or animated is also extremely unlikely to qualify (Garfield, for example, doesn't even look ''like a cat''), unless the depiction is intended to be realistic or the trope itself is being parodied. If the only time the character's said or implied to be fat is when another character is tossing out insults, it probably belongs under [[You Are Fat]] instead of this trope.
 
{{noreallife|as has been mentioned already, many women and girls in real life have body image issues. There's no reason to trigger their anxieties.}}
'''[[No Real Life Examples, Please]]'''
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== Advertising ==
* Many ads for Kellogg's products such as Special K cereal, will encourage the viewer to replace two of their meals a day with the cereal in order to lose weight. The majority of these ads will feature a woman being portrayed as overweight or too chubby to wear a particular piece of clothing they have their eye on. They successfully complete the diet plan and show off their newly-slim bodies. What makes these ads a series of Wall Bangers? Just about every woman in these ads is ''already thin to begin with'', thus making the shown weight-loss unnoticeable and also completely ignoring the "for ages 18 and over with BMI 25+ " disclaimers at the bottom of the screen. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDijSmJYOS0 This] is just one of the advertisements.
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*** That would make sense. However, in the majority of these adverts the women are shown at the beginning clearly acting self-conscious or unhappy with their bodies before doing the diet (such as the woman in the linked ad desperately trying to hide herself), suggesting that they're supposed to have hideously chubby figures. Thinking they weigh more than they really do [[Unfortunate Implications|is a common symptom of eating disorders, BTW]].
** Especially annoying are the Special K ads which are run after Christmas, in which women who are on the low side of average size are mistaken for Santa Claus by [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHkPUvuDNMQ&feature=related children] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ebb54ElG-A Santa's sleigh team].
*** In the former, the "overweight" woman is portrayed by the gorgeous actress [https://web.archive.org/web/20150511075636/http://i2.listal.com/image/836881/600full-stacy-edwards.jpg Stacy Edwards]. In the latter, the woman is dressed in a bulky winter coat (with unflattering side pockets), heavy scarf and unflattering hat that would make ''anybody'' look 20  lbs. heavier.
** The ad campaign for Special K in the 1970s was just about as bad. They encouraged viewers to "do the Special K pinch", which meant to pinch some part of their midsection. The message was, "If you can pinch more than an inch, you should probably be watching your weight." The problem here is that skin, subcutaneous muscle tissue, etc. can all be pinched around the abdomen, so it's very easy even for someone who's ''underweight'' to pinch more than an inch. Even chronic anorexics can pinch more than an inch, if they're hunched over.
* An ad for the zero calorie sweetener Truvia features an extremely thin woman scarfing down cheesecake, while a cutesy jingle that's supposed to be her inner monologue laments that real sugar made her "butt fat."
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarpWrLn9Zo This ad] for Safe Food, where nobody appears to be unhealthily overweight, bar a small bulge in the belly. Make even funnier by Safe Food's slogan, "[[Narm|Be Safe, Be Health]], [[Demolition Man|Be Well]]."
* There are those series of Subway commercials showing a montage of various people eating fast food, only to have a button pop off of their shirt or fall through whatever they were sitting on. These commercials tend to be slightly aggrivating given that out of all of the people in those commercials, one or two may be a little overweight.
* Just about any commercial for a weight loss program like Weight Watchers. Such commercials will show "before and after" photos of men and women who have successfully completed the program. The problem is that, in some instances, they actually look better in the "before" photos than in the "after" photos.
 
== Anime &and Manga ==
 
* Stocking from [[Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt|Panty and Stocking With Garterbelt]] has quite a sweet-tooth, and one episode shows her wearing a monitor and going on a diet, much to Panty's taunting delight. She inis enraged over Chuck's hogging her beloved sweets, eats them herself, then later laments over how she'll likely be "back" to her normal proportions by the next day. Yet her physical appearance never changes, and she's still hot enough to pull off that explicit henshin...
== Anime & Manga ==
* In the fourth episode of the ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' anime Serena/Usagi is worried that she has gained a little weight. Visually, she hasn't changed at all. Fortunately, in the ''show'', nobody except Usagi notices. The dub even exaggerated this a step further by having "Serena" freak out about gaining a grand total of... half a pound. The rest of the episode shows a villain preying on women with body issues by using machines that make them skinny while sucking out their life energy until they become emaciated (and it is implied that they will die after enough sessions). Strangely, the dub attempts to pretend the machines don't work despite the fact that all the victims are visibly skinnier and skeletal. Either way, it's still not ''enforcing'' a certain body type, but mocking the obsession with being skinny that leads perfectly attractive women to starve themselves.
* Stocking from [[Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt|Panty and Stocking With Garterbelt]] has quite a sweet-tooth, and one episode shows her wearing a monitor and going on a diet, much to Panty's taunting delight. She in enraged over Chuck's hogging her beloved sweets, eats them herself, then later laments over how she'll likely be "back" to her normal proportions by the next day. Yet her physical appearance never changes, and she's still hot enough to pull off that explicit henshin...
* In the fourth episode of the ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' anime Serena/Usagi is worried that she has gained a little weight. Visually, she hasn't changed at all. Fortunately, in the ''show'', nobody except Usagi notices. The dub even exaggerated this a step further by having "Serena" freak out about gaining a grand total of...half a pound. The rest of the episode shows a villain preying on women with body issues by using machines that make them skinny while sucking out their life energy until they become emaciated (and it is implied that they will die after enough sessions). Strangely, the dub attempts to pretend the machines don't work despite the fact that all the victims are visibly skinnier and skeletal. Either way, it's still not ''enforcing'' a certain body type, but mocking the obsession with being skinny that leads perfectly attractive women to starve themselves.
** It's still worth noting that while Usagi/Serena's family doesn't give it much importance, their comments imply that she is indeed "a bit chubby" in their eyes and that she should probably eat less and exercise more (Luna also thinks this way). While they ''may'' just mean to encourage her into a more healthy lifestyle (or playfully mock her worries) rather than to have her get thinner, they never clarify this (cue Usagi/Serena crying at hearing them).
** [[Sailor Moon Abridged]] takes this and runs with it, having every character point out how overweight she allegedly is. Naturally, the art hasn't changed a bit; she's every bit as skinny as she is in the actual show.
** Also happens in the ''Codename: Sailor V'', where Minako in fact gained some weight but was almost unnoticeable. Minako freaked out so much she started doing exercise like mad, losing the excess fat... Andand still weighing a little too much, this time IN MUSCLES (Artemis had stopped saying he didn't want a fat Sailor V, after all).
*** The same couldn't be said for the people of Tokyo, since this was the latest scheme of the Dark Agency. Basically everyone else besides Minako (and her friend Hikaru-Chan) had noticeably gotten fatter because of some special chocolates being distributed around Valentine's Day. It reached a point that "fat" was the new in-look even though everyone was going like crazy trying to lose the weight.
** By some accounts, Japanese culture is extremely lipophobic. In a country where people eat mostly fish and rice and do 2 hours of aerobics every day, body image standards can get pretty warped.
* Yomi in ''[[Azumanga Daioh]]'' has weight issues, even though she's no less thin than the other girls on the show. The liner notes in one of the DVDs notes that her obsession with her weight was given to her to give her a slightly more "normal" quirk than the other girls, so its clear that this was more in Yomi's head than an actual problem. Tomo also teases her for being fat, but Tomo is also a [[Jerkass]] that spends her life tormenting Yomi in any way she can think of.
* Likewise, Kagami from ''[[Lucky Star]]'' often complains about her weight despite not being fat, especially after indulging her [[Sweet Tooth]]. But as Konata pointed out, "You don't look any different if you gain a kilo or two."
* In the rather obscure anime series ''[http://www.animenewsnetwork.comcc//encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1427 Onegai! Samia Don]'' (aka ''Psammead the Magic Genie'', based on ''[[Five Children and It]]'' by [[E. Nesbit]]); Anne Hopkins, the eldest girl, is working out to be thin, and despite not being overweight at all, ponders asking Psammead help (but being [[Genre Savvy]] enough to know that her wish might backfire, she doesn't).
* Male example: America in ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' doesn't look fat, but when he steps onto the weight scale, it actually sweats carrying his weight and he looks completely mortified seeing the numbers. Though it could also be joking about this trope as well.
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20111224032555/http://aph.starry-sky.com/matome_heta.html Word of God] suggests that the weight is muscle, and that America simply doesn't know any better.
** Finland is another male example: [[Word of God]] has stated that he is a little chubby, but he looks like [https://web.archive.org/web/20120418140159/http://aph.starry-sky.com/chrismas_bonsai3.html this]. (Warning: kinda NSFW)
* Hiro of ''[[Hidamari Sketch]]'' is also very [[Berserk Button|sensitive]] to her weight; different signs may imply she is kind of on the fat side (like Miyako's teasing or her open preference in Renoir because he drew Rubenesque women), but it's not something we can see in the manga or anime, particularly because of the [[Puni Plush|art-style]]...
* [[Rumiko Takahashi]] actually did a one-shot manga about such a girl going to a weight-loss camp because of a new dress that was only slightly too tight on her. She ends up getting a better body image by the end, however.
** The girl in question wanted to go to the dance with her crush, and thought dropping a lot of weight would help. As it turned out, {{spoiler|the guy liked them plus-sized, and went with a girl who was visibly pudgy}}. On the other hand, {{spoiler|she got the young camp coach instead, who (unlike the first guy) got some screen time and established character}}. This is Takahashi, after all.
* Hige from ''[[Wolf's Rain]]'' is an interesting case, as he has two forms, human and wolf. He earns the nickname "Porky" from Tsume, and his canine form is indeed noticeably overweight. On the other hand, most of the time in the series the viewer only sees his human projection, and the only indication that the image he projects ''might'' be heavier than the others is that he doesn't wear skinny-jeans or tight leather pants like the others do, leaving a Hollywood Pudgy impression.
* Though he rarely (if ever) does it [[She Is Not My Girlfriend|without]] [[Slap Slap Kiss|provocation]], ''[[Ranma ½|Ranma One Half]]'''s [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|title character]] often calls Akane "fat," "thick-waisted," or "wide-hipped," just [[She Is Not My Girlfriend|to deny being attracted to her]]. [[Tsundere|Akane]]'s response is [[Megaton Punch|swift and certain]]. There was a story later in the manga about a magical gi. When female Ranma tries to wear it she learns it only fits someone with Akane's supposedly dumpier physique.
* Subverted in ''[[Ichigo Mashimaro]]'': when Chika and Miu start obsessing about their weight gain, Nobue points out to them that they are still growing.
* ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]'' subverts this trope with Miaka, as [[Yuu Watase]] has pointed out and shown in the manga that she really is supposed to be pudgy (though after distress galore in the book, she loses weight). In the anime, however, she's a bodaciously brawny babe who at one point fantasizes about having the body of a supermodel. [[Fan Service|Well, she got her wish]]... [[Near-Rape Experience|or]] [[Attempted Rape|not]].
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* ''Happy StrikerS'', the official ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' four-koma gag comic shown together with the preview manga of ''Nanoha Force'' in ''NyanType magazine'', uses this as a [[Running Gag]] with Teana, with her worrying that she had gotten a bit pudgy since [http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6524/85958460.png she's been swamped with desk work recently]. (Note: Link may be [[NSFW]])
* Cattleya from ''[[Queen's Blade|Queens Blade]]'' has some plumpish features but most of her thickness is really just muscle. Still, it hasn't stopped detractors from labeling her as fat or obese and it certainly hasn't stop doujinshis and fanart from portraying [[BBW|her as such]].
* Tina has a mini-freak out in one chapter of ''[[Ai Yori Aoshi]]'' due to her weight. She tries to diet (which is hard when you're a [[Big Eater]] who lives in the house of a [[Supreme Chef]]. Tina looks like [httphttps://wwwweb.tenmangaarchive.org/web/20210315172053/https://ta1.taadd.com/chapterfiles/AiYoriAoshi56img/330383-4logo/202012/202012221701429890.htmljpg this]{{Dead link}}.
* Sakurai Rihoko from ''[[Amagami]]'' is a textbook example. Based on her character design, she'd just be around the upper-bound of average sized waistline and chubbiness.
* Mio and Mugi from ''[[K-On!]]'' tends to get worried of their weight gain at the end of the year, and are envious of Yui's high metabolism. Even Ritsu can be manipulated into drum practice with this fear, though.
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* Ayako of ''[[Slam Dunk]]'' goes on a diet at the end of the series. Admittedly, she is drawn as curvier then Haruko and with a rounder face, but considering how many characters refer to her as attractive it's pretty obvious she's just being paranoid.
* Azusa in the anime version of ''[[The Idolmaster (anime)|THE iDOLM@STER]]''.
 
 
== Comic Books ==
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* Cornfed from ''[[Livewires]]'', who was designed to look like a big [[Farm Boy]] because his frame is meant to store extra amounts of smartware in his body, primarily in his beer belly. But beyond that he's as muscular as Hollowpoint Ninja, and taller.
* In ''[[All Fall Down]]'', Portia laments having gained nine pounds since she lost her powers (and her superhero metabolism).
 
 
== Film ==
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* PM Hugh Grant in ''[[Love Actually]]'' is into his cute tea maid (Martine McCutcheon) at Downing Street, even though she's constantly referred to as "fat" by everyone else. The PM character is bewildered that all of the other characters seem to have reached a consensus about her supposed fatness, since he couldn't see it at all. This seems to be based on the problem McCutcheon had with being labeled as fat by the media, and the subsequent backlash.
* One of the cheerleaders in the original ''[[Bring It On]]'' is told that her ass is enormous by a cheertator and is told to skip meals. Of course, she's thin and gorgeous. One of the cheerleaders in the sequel ''Bring It On: All or Nothing'' is supposedly fat, and is pressured to lose weight and is made fun of. By any normal standards she looks just as thin and sexy as the other cheerleaders. This is a deliberate criticism of the phenomenon, as the character who makes these comments is an [[Alpha Bitch]] and it's played for a [[Kick the Dog]] moment.
* Perhaps played intentionally in ''[[Hook]]'', where Peter Banning (the former [[Peter Pan]]) is mocked by the Lost Boys for being "old and ''fat''", and Captain Hook himself calls him a "pitiful, spineless, pasty, ''bloated'' codfish." [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/80sFreakLurker/Others/Pervy23.jpg Robin Williams wasn't out of shape], but he certainly wasn't as lean and fit as his former, adolescent, action-hero self.
* The brunette "ugly stepsister" Jacqueline de Ghent in ''[[Ever After (film)|Ever After]]'' played by the lovely [[Melanie Lynskey]] is chided by the [[Wicked Stepmother]] for eating too much and being overweight. The Baroness isn't at all a nice person, so cutting comments like that are to be expected, but no comment to the contrary is given, although {{spoiler|the man she ends up with is the charming, [[Deadpan Snarker|snarky]] captain of the guard and will probably eventually become Baroness de Ghent}}.
* In ''[[Strip Search]]'', an interrogator tells [[Maggie Gyllenhaal]] she could stand to lose a few pounds. However, it's not clear what the character actually believes. He is an interrogator trying to break her will.
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* ''[[Nine (theatre)|Nine]]'' Fergie, as Saraghina, a woman who's supposed to be fat. Either just big or plain obese, Saraghina was, in the musicals and in the previous movie, overweight. Fergie had to gain weight to be in character and... well, I'll give you this point: she has gained weight. C'mon, children, let's find the seven little differences between [http://www.mymovies.it/cinemanews/2009/25961/nine_2_imm.jpg New Saraghina] [http://film.vtheatre.net/photo/8.5-2.jpg and Old Saraghina!]
* [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Run_fat_boy_run.JPG Simon Pegg] plays the lead in ''[[Run Fatboy Run]]''. The role was originally envisioned for Jack Black. There are a few shots that attempt to show that Pegg has something of a gut. In spite of the title they ultimately seem to go for "out of shape" rather than "fat." [[Word of God]] says that Pegg had just finished filming ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' and had to be in superb shape to play Nicholas Angel. Quite difficult to put on a lot of weight that quickly.
* In ''[[Bride Wars]]'', there's a scene that's pretty much lifted from ''[[Mean Girls]]'', in which Kate Hudson's character is somehow tricked into eating five pounds worth of chocolate and can't fit into her wedding dress. In his [https://web.archive.org/web/20100821123521/http://blip.tv/file/4019183 review] of the movie, Film Brain points this out:
{{quote|The whole "I'm fat" joke doesn't really work when you haven't really put any weight on. Oh, and I think Kate Hudson would actually look ''healthier'' if she put some weight on.}}
* Played with in ''[[Death Becomes Her]]'', when Madeline calls her husband overweight, despite the fact that Bruce Willis, playing the character, is [[Hollywood Homely]] but not fat. This is in keeping with her character, however, as Madeline is an ''extremely'' vain actress who thinks that being extremely thin is the height of attractiveness (to such an extent that she makes a [[Deal with the Devil]] to stay rail thin forever).
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* Margaret Dumont is constantly mocked for her weight by the ''[[Marx Brothers]]''. While consistently the largest women in the Marx films, and among the largest in period film, she's average for modern America and only slightly above normal for current actresses playing characters her age. Her height helped in the characterization, since all of the Marx brothers were fairly short and slender, making her look larger in comparison.
* Discussed in the [[Eddie Murphy]] remake of ''[[The Nutty Professor]]'' ([http://youtu.be/CtC9xFS_3RU from 0:32-1:21]) when Prof. Sherman Klump is having dinner with his family, much of whom, like Sherman, is obese.
* Hayley Atwell was considered this by Miramax when she was filming Brideshead Revisited with Emma Thompson, who hit the roof when she found out and threatened to resign if they forced her co-star to lose the weight.
* In ''[[Camp Nowhere]]'', Gaby's mom wants to send her to a weight loss camp called Camp Slenderella, and remarks at the end of the film that Gaby looks thinner. Actress Melody Kay was quite visibly not overweight at ''any'' point during the movie; the filmmakers opted to put her in frumpy clothes in the movie's first act to try and justify the claim.
* In ''[[The Madness of King George]]'', King George III and Queen Charlotte both gave their son, the Prince of Wales, a hard time about getting fat. In real life George IV was rather portly, but when portrayed by Rupert Everett, not so much.
 
 
== Literature ==
* Fat Charlie, in [[Neil Gaiman]]'s ''[[Anansi Boys]]'', isn't actually fat. But [[The Nicknamer|his father started calling him that]] when he was a child and very slightly pudgy, and it stuck.
* In ''[[Ether Ore]]'', a tall young [[Gender Bender|woman]] who's said to be about 120  lbs is described as though her build is very solid and curvy - not fat, but far from skinny. A woman who's over 5'6" and weighs less than 120  lbs is almost always underweight. Somewhat justified in that the viewpoint character is a younger woman who's 90  lbs and boyish, so maybe it's just relative.
* In the [[Nancy Drew]] series, chum Bess is described as "pretty, but slightly plump", or in the 80s-to-90s era [[Nancy Drew Files]], as pretty, but perpetually obsessed with losing the five pounds she believes are standing between her and physical perfection. Despite this, she never has trouble attracting male attention. This is finally and thankfully subverted in the newest Nancy Drew series, ''Nancy Drew: Girl Detective.'' The closest mention of Bess's weight is the occasional throwaway line referring to a dress flattering her "curvy" figure.
 
 
== Live-Action TV ==
* ''[[Will and Grace]]''
** There's more than one episode in which Jack taunts Will for being a "fattie" or some similar disparagement. This is Eric McCormack we're talking about, here! Justified in that Jack is a neurotic [[Gym Bunny]] (who wears a ''girdle'' under his clothes, and he's the only one who says this about Will.<ref> It's also implied that deep down, Jack had feelings for Will.</ref>
** Occasionally, Karen made similar jabs about Grace. In one episode, while decorating her mother's apartment, Karen warned her to "leave plenty of money in the budget for Egg McMuffins, 'cuz Heavy G like tah eat!" These, along with the jokes about Will, were usually played for [[Values Dissonance]], since it was painfully clear that neither Eric McCormack nor Debra Messing were overweight at all. This became clear when several articles mentioned that the fat jokes leveled at Grace weren't funny anymore when Messing was pregnant.
* ''[[Ugly Betty]]'':
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* Peggy Olson of ''[[Mad Men]]'' gains weight throughout Season One. We're led to believe it's because she's trying to avoid being treated as a sex object at work - {{spoiler|it's actually because she's pregnant}}.
* Rodney McKay of ''[[Stargate Atlantis]]'' is occasionally referred to as fat by other characters, and frequently in fanfic and discussion, and he typically can't keep up with other characters in their running, jumping, and climbing up trees. To be fair, he does show noticeable "wattle", and most of those he interacts with on Atlantis are in prime physical condition, either being USAF or alien [[Super Soldiers]].
* Invoked, possibly, on ''Keeping Up with the Kardashians'', when Kourtney tries to get [[wikipedia:File:Khloe Kardashian 2009.jpg|Khloe]] to stop reading blogs that refer to her as a "whale," stating that the people making the criticisms are probably overweight themselves. Shortly thereafter, the audience is treated to Khloe in a miniskirt and heels. [https://web.archive.org/web/20101220195051/http://www.theinsider.com/photos/1011999_Khloe_Kardashian_Weight_Loss Check out her drastic weight loss!]
* Occurs accidentally in ''[[Blackadder|Blackadder the Third]]'', where several people describe Prince George as fat. The '''historical''' Prince George was actually fat, but here he's played by the tall and lanky [[Hugh Laurie]], so the insults just seem to come out of nowhere. Which of course just serves to make it even funnier.
* Actual pudgy example,''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' has Jerry the father. Maybe it's just her curves and unique styles, but Harper fits this trope as well.
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* ''The New York Times'' had [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/22/health/22well.html an article] on the Lifetime series ''[[Drop Dead Diva]]'' praising it for having a realistic attitude towards women's weight, but accompanying it with a picture in which the "fat" protagonist is obviously, by any realistic standard, not fat, and right next to her is Margaret Cho, who has been the epitome of the "fat Asian" caricature. Uh huh....
** This is justified (in-show, at least) with the series' protagonist, as she was formerly a ''very'' petite aspiring model. Not so much with Margaret Cho, however.
* Al from ''[[Home Improvement (TV series)|Home Improvement]]'' is a male pseudo-example. He's only moderately overweight by real world standards, but in the show people talk about him as if he were morbidly obese, with all the behaviors that would go with it. The teasing mostly comes from Tim, though, who's just trying to be funny.
* Gaby in ''[[Desperate Housewives]]'' Season 5, when she becomes "fat and frumpy" after giving birth to her two children. Eva Longoria was [http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918104703/desperate/images/d/de/GabrielleS5.png no heavier] than in the previous seasons, just wearing baggy clothes and an unflattering hairstyle.
* Eli on ''[[Stargate Universe]]'' is treated as if he's obese; in fact, he's at most slightly overweight for his height.
* In the glory days of ''[[You Can't Do That on Television]]'', the show's host, Christine McGlade, and her cohort, Lisa Ruddy, would constantly taunt each other as being "fat." While a case can kind of be made for the [https://web.archive.org/web/20131016115059/http://www.ycdtotv.com/cast/index.php?p=ruddy slightly chubby Lisa] at the time, [https://web.archive.org/web/20131016115053/http://www.ycdtotv.com/cast/index.php?p=mcglade Christine can hardly be have been described as having a weight problem].
* Seen in an episode of ''[[Friends]]'', in which the rest of the group comments that already [[Hollywood Homely]] Chandler has put on weight--Phoebeweight—Phoebe even mockingly pretends that she can't put her arms around him to give him a hug. This is an especially bad example of this tropes, as he looks exactly the same as he always does and is completely unaware of any weight gain until it is pointed out to him.
** Plus the [[Unfortunate Implications]]; while Matthew Perry did bounce around looking "very thin" and "a little bloated", it was because of his various drug addictions and rehab stays.
** The "Fat Monica" flashbacks are also an example of this as Monica, in those flashbacks, really isn't that fat (certainly not enough to "break a porch swing" or "be mistaken for an Alp").
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** Buster is also occasionally referred to as fat by Anyong and other kids, despite quite possibly being the tallest and thinnest of the Bluths. Presumably, this is just childish meanness.
** Ann also gets a bit of this along with the [[Hollywood Homely]] jokes.
* Kirstie Alley -- whoseAlley—whose weight has famously fluctuated between nearly-emaciated to clearly obese, finally settling on the high side of zaftig -- haszaftig—has famously criticized this phenomenon, both in a notorious appearance in a swimsuit on ''[[Oprah]]'', and in her brutally satirical and quasi-biographical Showtime series ''Fat Actress''. Tellingly, the series only lasted a single season; and she has since started trying again to lose weight. Notable here, as she's receivereceived a mountain of criticism, if not outright insults, from Oprah, other celebs, and fashion industry gossip mags even when she was down to a normal weight.
* Trudi Malloy on ''Mistresses'' comments on how she needs to go on a diet and "my rear end ''wobbles'' when I walk!" Not only is Trudi played by the positively stunning [[Sharon Small]], she looks like [http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae341/curearainyday/sharon.jpg this] on the show. Yeah.
* Parodied in an episode of ''[[Unhappily Ever After]]''. Ryan tampers with the bathroom scale to read an additional ten pounds, to make Tiffany think she has gained weight (largely, she thinks, to a recent zit), to her horror. Jack doesn't approve of this until Jennie weighs herself and freaks out as well. Both women struggle to lose the imaginary weight, despite not looking any different before the tampering.
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** Dee insinuates that the vain and athletic Dennis is putting on weight. He freaks out and begins starving himself. When he seems close to death, she finally admits that she was just messing with him, because he's a horrible person.
* Averted in ''[[Kath and Kim]]'', where Kim is played by genuinely pudgy actress Gina Riley. Considering most of Kim's humor revolves around how sexy and slim she ''thinks'' she is, and the far-too-small clothing she often squeezes herself into, using an actress who ''is'' chubby makes sense.
** Played straight in the American remake. Kim is played by Selma Blair, who couldn't put on too much weight for the role as otherwise she couldn't fit into the tight outfits for her character, and even as thin as Blair was, some of the outfits were so tight they actually cut off her circulation. So because of her thin figure, jokes about Kim being unappealing wouldn't work, so instead the series had jokes about her being "trashy"
* A male example from ''[[Big Wolf on Campus]]''. Tommy's enhanced appetite starts getting the best of him in ''The Wolf Is Out There'' and he begins gaining weight. Although he simply develops a noticeable belly instead of ballooning out of size. He manages to lose the weight by the end of the episode through dieting and a [[Time Skip]]. The viewers complained that they didn't understand why people were treating Tommy differently, considering he's a football player and they tend to bulk up.
* Mellie of ''[[Dollhouse]]'' is played as being the heavy, homely neighbor-with-a-crush. It doesn't help that most of the other female characters are dolls, specifically chosen in-universe to be gorgeous and sexy, but one doubts that most people who like women would kick her out of bed...
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* Kim Sam Soon's supposedly problematic weight was a constant point of ridicule in ''[[My Lovely Sam Soon]]''. The actress playing the role was a shocking! 50! kilos! (i.e. 110 &nbsp;lbs).
* A [[Running Gag]] on BBC's [[Merlin]] is Arthur's weight, although this mostly teasing on Merlin's part and it's clear Arthur himself does not believe that he's fat!
* Retroactively done on ''Scrubs''. A first season episode revolves around Turk having recently put on a bit of weight (As a surgical intern with limited free time is apt to do). Carla and J.D. taunt Him for it and he asks Dr Cox for fitness advice. It ends with Turk resolving not to worry about his weight. Irritatingly, however, Turk is later described by Cox as having been "A fat load", which Turk seems to agree with, even though his appearance has barely changed in the four years between episodes.
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* Played ridiculously straight in an episode of ''[[Supernatural]]'' where a demon targets [[Big Beautiful Woman|large women]]. We only get to see two of his potential victims and suffice to say the worst you could call them is "realistically middle-aged" and "not [[Hollywood Thin]]"!
* A non-human example in ''[[Two Broke Girls]]'': in "And The Reality Check," a stable-owner tells Caroline that her horse Chestnut is out of shape. That would be perfectly realistic, of course, since Chestnut had been living in Max's tiny backyard and had not been getting proper exercise. The problem is that the horse who plays Chestnut is of course very well cared for and is in great shape. This clearly falls under [[Acceptable Breaks From Reality]].
 
 
== Music ==
* The main character in the video of [[PinkP!nk]]'s "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDlOD1Hw9k F***ing Perfect]" is deliberately a poster girl for this trope.
* A line from [[The Arrogant Worms]] song ''"Hollywood Girl"'' references this trope: "Is she pregnant, or did she have breakfast?"
* The image from this page was taken from [[Britney Spears]]'s controversial presentation in the 2007 MTV Video Music Awards. As the pic shows, she was in pretty awesome shape for someone who had had a baby mere months before, but because she used to be thinner, her outfit choice was very revealing, and her stage presence was stilted and listless, people got the impression that she was fatter and dumpier than she really was.
 
* Similarly, [[Billie Piper]] isn't exactly super-slim, but she does have a healthy frame. In fact, it was because of this trope that led her to have anorexia as a teenager when she was called "fat" at the Brit Awards. For perspective, [http://hellyeahbilliepiper.tumblr.com/post/711610914/billiemoods-brit-awards this] is her at the Brit Awards. And [[What an Idiot!|''somebody'']] called her fat. WTF.
* [[Paula Abdul]] was subject to fat-shaming in the 1980s and 1990s because of her curvaceous figure. One of the worst examples was a parody of the video for her 1991 song "The Promise of a New Day", remade by ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' as "The Promise of a Thin Me".
 
== Professional Wrestling ==
* Towards the end of her [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] career, Molly Holly's gimmick became that she was overly sensitive about her huge ass. Which wasn't really huge; she had bigger curves than most of the Divas, certainly, but she wasn't large in any sense of the term. This didn't stop [[Trish Stratus]] and [[Lita]] from making fun of her, though - and they were supposed to be the [[Face|facesface]]s. It was mostly played for comedy, considering Molly was a heel at the time, but a long-standing rumor is that this was the angle that eventually drove her out of the business, despite being one of the most technically sound and skilled female wrestlers WWE's ever had in their ranks. Naturally the rumor isn't true, she hated the ass angle but left because of a cancer scare.
* A similar angle started in 2009 and carried over into 2010, this time featuring Mickie James (a face) in the role of the Hollywood Pudgy gal while [[Lay Cool|Michelle McCool and Layla El]] (heels) ripped on her for being fat, even going so far as to give her the nickname "Piggie James". Unlike Molly, Mickie was okay with the angle, likely because she was casts in a sympathetic light and was released for unrelated reasons (being late for a bus in the UK).
* Kara "Cherry" Drew was fired because she was ''too fat''.
* Reportedly, the same thing happened to Candice Michelle. However, what sent this into Wall Banger territory is that she did gain a little weight, but it was because she was rehabbing a shoulder injury and was therefore immobile. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130727001819/http://www.24wrestling.com/imagery/index.php?gal=99 This] is Candice's "Fat Picture." Thud.
* In a bit of a [[Gender Flip|twist]], some fans tend to rag on male wrestlers if they gain a bit of softness around the middle. On the one hand, when your ring attire consists of tights, trunks, spandex or a bathing suit, any bit of chubbiness can turn to [[Fan Disservice]]. On the other hand, it sure as heck can't ''help'' wrestling's ongoing steroid problem.
** [[Matt Hardy]] has become a particular target of this after he gained weight following a burst appendix that wrecked his digestive system. It didn't help his cause though when in a [[YouTube]] video he was seen eating steak fries and still has a large belly two years after his injury.
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* According to Maria Kanellis, she was actually once told backstage by management (*cough* Johnny Ace) that she was fat. Maria "Playboy covergirl" Kanellis. She has also said that other girls often get told to drop a few pounds.
* Tammy Lynn Sytch a.k.a. Sunny or the first girl to slut herself up for WWE once posted a scathing blog about seeing fat rolls on the Bella Twins. If [[Jerry Lawler|King]] ever hears about this then Sunny should sleep with one eye open.
 
 
== Theatre ==
* Averted in the case of Magda in ''[[Tanz der Vampire]]'', who's intended to be the village sex symbol, but is also meant to look appealingly zaftig, to the point where petite, thin actresses have to draw on fake cleavage and pad out their chests and hips in costume and [http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd180/magdavamp/Isabella%20Pruhs/news-01-04-01-1-full.jpg full-figured actress] looks like a better fit for the character than a thin one.
 
 
== Video Games ==
* [[Neptunia|Nep-Nep]] gets called out on her weight and eating habits a few times, but you can't really tell due to her oversized jacket and the only time we can see her tummy is her requisite pretty [[Super Form]].
* For some undecipherable reason, ''[[The Sims]] 3'' allows males to get MUCH fatter (at least much more realistically so) than females, who are adamantly maintained into at least a rubenesque figure.
** That is, until slider hacks were invented.
* ''[[The Sims]] 2'' plays this trope infuriatingly straight: the "fat" morph for females is, well, basically that picture of Britney Spears above.
* In ''[[Tales of Hearts]]'', Innes Lorenz is subject to repeated jabs about how squishy her belly and butt are. [[media:Tales_of_hearts_conceptart_4vdZUTales of hearts conceptart 4vdZU.jpg|This is Innes]].
* Many players of ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' consider [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/eyesofsue/WoWScrnShot_040810_230232.jpg human] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/eyesofsue/WoWScrnShot_040810_230136.jpg orc] females to be on the heavy side, and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/eyesofsue/WoWScrnShot_040810_230150.jpg tauren] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/eyesofsue/WoWScrnShot_040810_230213.jpg dwarf] females are apparently disgustingly fat. Granted, draenei and both night and blood elves have slimmer waists than the aforementioned races, but ''seriously now''.
** Since ''Wrath of the Lich King'' went live, and some time before, female humans and female dwarves have gained a decent number of defenders lashing back at the people who insist that any model thicker than draenei and the elves are oxen. Female orcs and tauren do have some defenders but they're notably fewer, the fact that female orcs are all muscle with maybe .1% body fat being gleefully pointed out at every opportunity.
** As for humans, any player who take a closer look at them will see the outlines of their ''ribcages''. In fact,if it weren't for their disproportionate thighs and breasts, they'd be seriously underweight.
** The Dwarf example is odd in that it's frequently referenced in-game that the Dwarven standard of beauty is for stout women, and compared to the men the model is very skinny.
* In ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons]]'' online, female elves and drow are quite skinny. Female humans are noticeably heavier, and while still by any reasonable standards quite fit, the fact that you spend most of your playing time looking at your character from behind does make them seem relatively pudgy. Female dwarves are even wider and shorter to boot.
* ''[[Final Fantasy X -2]]'' decided that Wakka had been gaining weight since the last game, but his in-game model had not been changed in any way. Due to the lack of any visible change, the jabs at his growing belly come off as this trope.
** This is actually owed to the developers being too lazy to create a new model for him. This is also why Lulu, who's nine months pregnant in X-2, looks just as fit as she did in the first game.
* Players of ''[[Ogre Battle|Tactics Ogre]]'' usually would make jokes on how Sisteena Foriner is a fat amazon, due to how her sprite is drawn (which had her wear rather loose long clothes). She has a slimmer builds in official arts (while still wearing her long clothes.
* In ''[[Portal 2]]'', GLaDOS repeatedly mocks Chell's weight, and Wheatley calls her 'healthy' in a way that's obviously a euphemism for calling her fat. Lampshaded at one point when GLaDOS calls Wheatley out on calling Chell 'Fatty-Fatty-No-Parents' by saying "Just look at her, you moron. She's not fat." GLaDOS also observes in the co-op mode that [[Blue and Orange Morality|for some reason, humans frown on weight variance, and so, if you want to upset a human, you can try telling them that their weight has varied positively or negatively]].
* Your daughter in ''[[Princess Maker]] 2'' can get too fat for certain sets of clothes (the basic set will always fit, but fancier ones won't). However, the difference between her "fat picture" and "skinny picture" is about two pixels in width.
* ''[[Chrono Cross]]'' has some bizarre character descriptions in regards to weight. Janice, who is 5 foot 7 inches and 104 &nbsp;lbs. is described as having "plumpish" body build. Her character model is in no way noticeably pudgier than those the game deems "slender". On the other end of this skewed spectrum we have Macha, a rotund housekeeper. She is 5 foot 6 inches and 150 &nbsp;lbs. which is about the same height-to-weight ratio as Christina Hendricks, but Macha's character model has wider waist than chest.
 
 
== Web Original ==
* On a similar note, critics of TGWTG recently declared (by unanimous opinion) that a number of the site's popular video producers -- includingproducers—including [[The Nostalgia Critic]], Spoony, [[The Nostalgia Chick]], [[Marz Gurl]], [[Atop the Fourth Wall|Linkara]], and [[The Cinema Snob]] -- have—have become unattractively overweight.<ref> The comments "It's like a company fitness plan in reverse", "Spoony's been blowing up like Violet Beauregarde" and "Doug just gets older and fatter every year" come to mind.</ref> While many of the individuals in question admit to having put on a few pounds since they first started doing videos, almost none of them could be classified as medically overweight, let alone unattractively so. And hopefully ''no'' sane person would consider a six-foot tall string bean like Doug Walker "fat".
** Both Doug and Lindsay have lampshaded and mocked this in their own way, with the latter giving her character [[Weight Woe]] and a [[Plain Jane]] complex when she's clearly seen by others as attractive, and the former increasing his [[Shirtless Scene|Shirtless Scenes]]s.
 
 
== Western Animation ==
* In one episode of ''[[Daria]]'', Sandy has a debilitating injury, and due to lying around all day, she gets "fat," by the fashion club's standards (which actually means not so extremely thin).
 
 
== Meta ==
* Unfortunately, many people hold themselves to this standard and thus are anorexic and/or bulimic. [[Sincerity Mode|If you're one of these people, please, please,]] ''please'', '''see a doctor'''.
* There is a [http://www.slate.com/id/2160377 well-known reason] people who would look normal in real life are criticized for being heavy on film and especially in photos.: Being put on a 2D surface makes people look heavier than they are. The camera adds 10-15 &nbsp;lbs.
* In modeling, anything size ''8'' and up is "Plus Sized", as shown by this ABC news article: [http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/glamour-honors-size-models-november-ssue/story?id=8736182 Glamour Honors Plus-Size Models]. ''That's'' plus-size?! The justification designers give for stick-slender models in the fashion industry is that the focus is supposed to be on the designer's creation, and any unexpected curves or bulges might distract from that. The model is basically meant to be a living clothes hanger. The real reason, though, is that it's simply ''easier'' to design clothing for women with narrow hips and shoulders and small breasts - the designer doesn't have to consider ease, darts, or all those fussy details that make clothing fit the average woman properly. And the average designer doesn't give a damn if his or her clothing looks good on the average woman.
* Any tabloid speculating on an actress's possible "baby bump" should she show even the teensiest hint of a gut. One US magazine cover featured this, with one of the women simply looking like she exhaled.
* This attitude is evident any time some super skinny actress gains a whole five pounds for a role and is lauded as being so incredibly brave. You'd think she volunteered for experimental surgery the way the media goes on about it and the way some of the actresses never shut up about how terrifying the experience was (the rest practically get orgasmic over being "allowed" to eat pizza and ice cream).
* This is not uncommon throughout Asia. If you think Hollywood and fashion magazines create a culture of Body Nazis, go to Asia, where most people are already tiny by American standards and still feel the need to lose weight. They also don't have any problem telling someone to her face, "You look fat!"
* A big contributing factor to [[Hollywood Pudgy]] is the Body Mass Index, which is a ''horrendously'' inaccurate measure, since it does not take into account things like bone mass, muscle mass, or actual fat. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130421171148/http://themiddlemanager.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/quick-hit-the-problem-with-bmi/ This chart is an excellent example]. <ref> It should be noted, however, that Johnny Depp is 5'10"; the chart claims he's 5'7".</ref> Adrian Peterson would be overweight and Shaq would be obese. For further proof: [[Brad Pitt]], at 6'0" and 203 &nbsp;lbs, has a BMI of 28 and is therefore "overweight". [http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/brad-pitt-and-his-2010-chevrolet-camaro_100231741_s.jpg This is what he looks like at his weight]. [[Sarcasm Mode|Get off the sidewalk before you crack it, fat-ass]]!
* Interestingly (and [[Sincerity Mode|thankfully]]) enough, we may begin to see the end of this trope in coming years as many modeling agencies are now imposing ''minimum'' weight limits in an effort to actively prevent the "skeletal is beautiful" image from proliferating any more than it already has.
 
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