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Common in any parody of [[Chop Sockey]] movies or Japanese [[Toku]].

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* Just watch [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sqV5k4UiHg&feature=related these] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDH4Y-M4-eA clips] from the movie ''Hard Gun''. [[Epic Fail]] from the dubbers.

* Many of the English dubs produced by Animax Asia (via Red Angel Media) suffer from this. Not to mention, the dubs are actually recorded in Hong Kong.

** The same thing happens with Mystic Mother in ''[[Power Rangers Mystic Force]]''. It's actually because {{spoiler|they're [[Machiko Soga|the same person]].}}

** In Mighty Morphin, it's also observed with Zordon and Scorpina.

** The second English version from Animaze does [[Lip Lock|make an effort to follow the animation more closely]] than the Streamline dub. How well it works is a matter of opinion.

* This ([[Blind Idiot Translation|among other things]]) happens at times in the Hong Kong-produced dubs of ''[[Transformers Headmasters]], [[Transformers Super God Masterforce|Masterforce]],'' and ''[[Transformers Victory|Victory]]'' which aired on Malaysian television.

** The Hungarian dub of ''[[Transformers Armada]]'' is comparable to these, save for the fact that it has proper, professional, and not all-that-bad voice actors, who simply happen to not give a damn about the whole cartoon (understandable), and have a hard time paying attention to mouth movements.

*** That goes for the first 30 episodes or so. The dub ''vastly'' improved once the cartoon itself began to make sense.

* ''[[Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army]]'' manages to do this with ''text''. However, to its credit, it's not noticeable until the lip flaps ''do'' match up, such as when a character says a name, which remains unchanged (this is easiest to spot with the name "Raidou"). As it is in text, it is not at all jarring unless one is anal-retentive about it.

* Fairly common in Brazilian dubs of Mexican soup-operas (take in consideration Spanish is only slightly similar to Portuguese). But then again, it's more likely to be a conspiration against such overdone and boring plots, as the voice actors and dub directors themselves say that they prefer to dub action movies and anime, for being more dynamic.

* [[Dingo Pictures]] animations are infamous for having horrible lip sync. However, this trope is taken to the extreme by even original language having bad lip sync, let alone dubs.

* Done in Shaolin Soccer, which only enhances the utter absurdity of the movie to epic cheese levels.

* The Serbian dub of ''[[Tokyo Mew Mew]]'' is notorious for having very low production value and poor lip-syncing. Some lines are at least 3 seconds off in both "too early" and "too late"! It got worse as it went on, although it got better around episode 30. Unfortunately, it was not to last, as it got bad again about 10 episodes later!

* All of the [[Godzilla]] movies from Godzilla vs. Gigan onward (except Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla 2000) were released in America with crude dubs commissioned by Toho (the studio producing the films) and actually created by a firm in Hong Kong. The mismatched lip movement is at times painful to watch, and the acting and writing is pretty awful too. Some of the pre-Gigan films have been released this way on DVD now by Sony, who didn't want to go to the extra trouble of getting rights to the original American dubs from God-knows-what company owned them, so opted to buy Toho's dubs. (Luckily, the original Japanese audio was included on most of their discs, albeit mostly with dubtitles.) Fortunately Classic Media's later releases of some films avoided this, and even released some films that had never been on US DVD before (Godzilla Raids Again, Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster). It's only too bad they weren't the ones Sony released. However, half the fun of the shows for a lot of people is the silliness of the dubs.

* The Hungarian dub of [[The Simpsons]] suffers from every dubbing-related problem you can think of, among them, bad lip-sync, and it shows no signs of improvement, even after all this time.

** And let's not forget [[Phineas and Ferb]]. The voice actors have to do ''a lot'' of ad-libbing, as if there was no dubbing director or any guidelines.

* A rare movie example, still from Hungary: the dub of the first live-action [[Transformers Film Series|Transformers]] film. The timing is about half a second off in most cases. Then, there is Ironhide's line about exterminating the parents, which he says ''during'' Optimus' reaction to his suggestion, and also Judy's "You're so cheap." comment, spoken about 10 seconds too ''early''.

* Also done with Stan in the first two [[Monkey Island]] games. He almost never stops talking or waving his arms.

* The English dub of the movie ''Hai-Alarm Auf Mallorca'' (''Shark Attack in the Mediterranean''). "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqgtn5muHyc SHARK ALARM!]"

* ''[[An American Tail]]'', again, the Hungarian dub. I first thought there was an audio-lag, but no, it turns out the dub's creators really did have a horrible sense of timing. You could hear the actors just getting ready to speak when the characters have already mouthed full sentences. The sound effects are also nearly fully muted out.

** Strangely completely averted by the dub of its sequel, done by the same cast.

* The English version of [[God Eater]] seems to have just decided to ignore the [[Mouth Flaps]] when they dubbed the game.

* The old 1978 English dub of the first ''[[Lupin III]]'' movie also has a lot of lip-syncing issues, likely due to how rushed the production likely was.

 

* Parodied by the film ''[[Kung Pow]]: Enter the Fist'', which used advanced [[Green Screen|greenscreening]] technology to insert Steve Oedekerk into scenes from a 1970 kung-fu movie... then replaced all the characters' lines with new ones. In silly voices. [[Talking to Himself|All by Steve Oedekerk.]] [[Lull Destruction|The movie even turned a scene with almost no dialog into a fight involving]] ''[[Rule of Funny|ventriloquists]]'':

'''Betty:''' Your mouth tricks will not work on me, ventriloquists! }}

** ''Kung Pow'' even went so far as to dub ''a dog barking''. No, really. The dog visibly barked, and only after it had sat down and laid its head on the ground was the bark actually heard.

** As well as a good chunk of Ling's mouth flaps being translated as "WEOOWEOOWEOOWEOOWEOO"

'''Woody Allen:''' No. }}

* [[What Could Have Been|In one draft]] of the script for the second ''[[Kill Bill]]'' film, Pai Mei's lips would be speaking Cantonese, while his voice (dubbed by Tarantino) would be in English. This isn't the case in the final though, as Gordon Liu does his own dialogue.

** Also, a deleted scene in the first film features Michael Jai White doing a very impressive imitation of a bad dub job.

* In the first of the ''[[Police Academy]]'' movies, Larvelle Jones (played by Michael Winslow, AKA the guy who does the funny sounds) puts on a headband and flaps his mouth in imitation of this to intimidate some thugs.

** A lot of old Italian films were done similarly; they would film the movie without a soundtrack, and dub dialogue in later. (Fellini in particular liked to play the piano while filming.) If you pay attention, you can frequently see minor lip synch slips.

* In ''[[My Parents Are Aliens]]'', there is an episode where Lucy comes home and finds Brian in a karate outfit and when he talks his lips don't match up with his mouth. Lucy then sees Brian has been watching a karate videotape and tells him that it is dubbed.

* The sketch-comedy ''[[Almost Live]]'' did this with its "Billy Quan" kung-fu parodies. Amusingly, one of the actors in the skit (John Keister) always supplied the still-out-of-sync voiceovers for his own character.

* Invoked in ''[[GURPS]] [[Discworld]] Also'': while describing the similarities between the Port Duck setting and Hong Kong action movies, it says "Having their lips move out of sync with their voices would be cheap, though".

* ''[[Sam and Max Freelance Police]]'' parodies this in ''the Second Show Ever'', when they mistake Mr. Yushi for a knife-wielding lunatic.

* Parodied in ''[[Chowder]]'' episode "Tofu-Town Showdown".

 

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