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It's well known that [[Epileptic Trees|wild fan theories]] are prone to being [[Jossed]].

 

 

May overlap with [[The Untwist]] if the revelation is well-foreshadowed but most fans reject the theory exactly because it seems so obvious. And of course, may overlap with [[Epileptic Trees]].

When, in universe, the characters say I told you so, see [[I Warned You]].

 

 

 

{{examples}}

* In ''[[Bleach]]'', many fans were trying to predict the Espada numbers before the release. Eventually, only three numbers remained unknown, and many fans correctly guessed who had the ranks of 1, 2, and 3.

** There were also a lot of jokes flying around that {{spoiler|Yammy was actually the 0 espada, who was really the most powerful. Guess what..?}}

** How many people had predicted that war monger Danzou had a {{spoiler|Sharingan}} underneath those bandages?

** Who thought that Kankuro would eventually {{spoiler|gain Sasori as his new puppet}}?

** Also, fans had been assuming since [[Prequel|Saiyuki Gaiden]] started that Hakuryuu/Jeep was the reincarnation of Dragon King of the West, Gojun. Guess what?

* ''[[Fate/Zero]]'', on the identity of the Servant Berserker, Black Knight. Let's see, grudge with King Arthur/Saber, ability to turn any weapons to Noble Phantasm (even a bloody F-15 fighter)? Why, of course he is... {{spoiler|Lancelot. Considering his proficiency with any weapons and his affair with Arthur's wife Guinivere, it's bloody obvious}}.

* At least a few fans of ''[[Claymore]]'' said this during [[The Reveal|the recent reveal]] that the Organization is responsible for creating both the Claymores ''and'' the Yoma, but not as many had guessed that the land the series takes place on is really a testing ground for living weapons in a large scale war.

** The rumor that the Organization is actually responsible for causing Yoma attacks was mentioned in-setting by Rubel very early on (in one of his first appearances), long before there was any hint that it was true. {{spoiler|Which turns into [[Fridge Brilliance]] when you realize he was actually [[The Mole]] - it's entirely possible he started that 'rumor' himself.}}

** Many fans predicted Ash would obtain Paul's Chimchar almost a year before it actually happened, the rationale being that Ash always has a Fire Pokémon on his team and that it seemed unlikely that the writers would give Ash a Magmortar or a Heatran. And if Ash was going to obtain ''a'' Chimchar, then why not the one that was introduced three episodes in and clearly had a [[Abusive Parents|less-than-perfect]] relationship with its trainer?

*** Considering that Ash had gained his very first fire Pokemon, Charmander, under similar circumstances, it wouldn't really be a surprise for long time fans to figure that said Chimchar would end up on Ash's team, since it can easily be seen as "history repeating itself"...

* One of the more awesome, yet unsubstantiated theories about ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' was that Gaume the Steady, the alligatory-armadilloy member of Lord Genome's four Generals is the counterpart to Team Gurren's [[Team Pet]], Boota. Cue [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOBG3CCew7Q Parallel Works #8].

* Many new fans of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' by way of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX|GX]]'' were sure that Judai/Jaden would duel Yugi on the last episode, which more seasoned fans dismissed as noobish nonsense. Of course, while that's actually what does end up happening, {{spoiler|instead of dueling the present-time Yugi of ''GX'', we're treated to a spastic [[Time Travel]] sequence where Judai duels the Yugi of the past while he still has the spirit of Atem, setting up a [[Stable Time Loop]] to ensure that Yugi would know to give Judai Winged Kuriboh before he enters Duel Academia.}}

* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'': Around the time chapter 229 was released, a theory popped up on [[Mahou Sensei Negima/WMG|Wild Mass Guessing]] that the Asuna that was with Negi and co. was not the real Asuna, but a fake, while the real Asuna was kidnapped during the previous battle. It was based mostly on the fact that a) we never physically saw Asuna joining up with everybody after the battle and b) she was acting more out-of-it than normal. Then came chapter 233...

** And as of the most recent chapter, there are probably a number of fans who are happy that {{spoiler|Mundus Magicus is, in fact, on Mars. [[Another Dimension|well, sort of]].}}

*** The idea that Mantra and Haki are the same? We were right.

* Following the [[Wham! Episode|literal bomb-dropping]] in ''[[Code Geass]]'', many fans declared Nunnally and Sayoko [[Killed Off for Real]] ([[Lying Creator|and the official website seemed to support them]]). However, one blogger posted a thorough essay explaining why he was convinced they had survived, using screencaps to suggest that there was a second airplane, and that Nunnally's had gotten away earlier while the second was caught in the blast. One month later, a battered Sayoko appears to Jeremiah and explains exactly how it happened.

* Setsuna's [[Heel Face Turn]] in ''[[Fresh Pretty Cure]]!'' was guessed by the fandom months before it actually happened... yet the same people still got incredibly angry when Toei put blatant spoilers for the event in question up on the side of an arcade game a month before it happened in the show. Note to creators: just because someone called it doesn't mean "give up completely".

** After episode 13 of ''[[Heartcatch Pretty Cure]]'', which revealed certain facts about Tsukikage Yuri's backstory, a handful of fans posited that {{spoiler|her [[Disappeared Dad]] was, in fact [[Fake Boss|Professor Sabaaku]].}} Thirty-four episodes later, {{spoiler|Sabaaku's [[Cool Mask]] falls off, revealing...[[Luke, I Am Your Father|Professor Tsukikage.]]}}

*** Also from Suite: the identity of Cure Muse was revealed in promotional materials several weeks before the episode covering that revelation was released in October, but at least one fanartist on pixiv predicted that revelation back in ''May''.

* The ''[[D.Gray-man]]'' fanbase has been making jokes for ages about why [[Big Bad|the Millennium Earl]] [[Hat Shop|wears hats all the time]]. Bunny ears were suggested... as were horns. Cue chapter 187...

* In chapter 70-something of ''[[Fairy Tail]]'', Erza reveals through a flashback the face of the current arc's villain, Jellal. To everyone's surprise, he looks exactly like {{spoiler|Siegrain, a council member introduced on the second page of the first chapter. By this point it's a solid fact that Siegrain is evil so the assumption would be they're one and the same, however, one is most definitly at the council while another is most definitely in a tower miles away}}. The assumption, considering this, is that ''they're one and the same''. They were.

* The idea that {{spoiler|Yuno was from an [[Alternate Universe]]}} in ''[[Mirai Nikki]]'' had been bounded around for months before it was finally confirmed.

* ''[[Star Driver]]'' is notable for repeatedly [[Jossed|Jossing]] fan's theories and defying their expectations. However, the fans have been right on the money about three things so far:

** {{spoiler|Head is Takuto's father.}}

*** Back in February, someone made a [http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/weekly-speculah/ Star Driver Speculation Bingo Card], with every wacky theory from "[[Luke, I Am Your Father|So-and-so is really Takuto's father]]" to "Character is really an alien." As of episode 23, almost half of them have been ''confirmed''.

* In the character design notes for [[Rurouni Kenshin]], [[Nobuhiro Watsuki]] says that the character, Kamatari, was based on a suggestion from one of his assistants around the pun, an "okama with a kama", or a "crossdresser with a scythe". This assistant was not mentioned by name, but everyone guessed that it was [[Eiichiro Oda]]. In a later interview, Watsuki confirmed that this guess was correct.

* In [[The World God Only Knows]], who held the Goddesses, and eventually which Goddess was in which host was greatly contested. However, the fact that {{spoiler|Shiori held Minerva}} had been almost a foregone conclusion since the names of the Goddesses had been revealed. {{spoiler|Yui holding Mars and Tsukiyo as the host of Vulcan was also a common theory, though not quite as prevalent as the Shiori example.}}

* Many ''[[Bakugan]]'' fans guessed that {{spoiler|the new [[Big Bad]] Mag Mel was actually Emperor Barodius, the [[Big Bad]] of the previous season, because they shared the same voice actor among other hints. They were right.}}

* When Episode 11 of ''[[Gundam AGE]]'' confirmed {{spoiler|Yurin L'Ciel}} to be Flit's preferred [[Love Interest]], longtime ''Gundam'' fans compared her to Lalah Sune and saw her inevitable death coming a mile away. {{spoiler|Three episodes later, they were right.}}

 

 

* In the ''[[Star Wars]]'' comics, the theories that Darth Krayt is A'Sharad Hett (Legacy) and that Revan and Malak are the Revanchist and Alek (Knights Of The Old Republic).

* In ''[[The Saga of Tuck]]'', the fact that Tuck (Valerie) is intersexed.

* In the beginning of her tenure as Wonder Girl, Cassandra Sandsmark was sweet, responsible, and competent. Sometime during her membership in the [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]], she started taking on mild [[Jerkass]] tendencies and basically becoming a watered-down version of the [[Alpha Bitch]] with superpowers. Some readers suspected a correlation between her change and {{spoiler|accepting greater powers and a "lasso of torture" from Ares.}} Confirmed in issue 64.

** In another, it originally was Daredevil, but the reason why this was changed is a mystery; Bendis was writing Daredevil at the time and as Avengers was starting, his Daredevil run was ending. Bendis was going to bring in the character for Avengers, but had also decided to end his run on Daredevil with Matt in jail. He decided the jail storyline was better so he dropped Daredevil as an Avenger.

* In ''[[Young Avengers]]'', the twist that Hulkling and Wiccan were a gay couple was so obvious to all the fans that Heinberg simply decided to treat it as such, rather than doing the reveal in issue #12 like he planned.

 

 

** Of course, given the popularity of [[Slash Fic]], something like this is inevitable whenever a character comes out of the closet.

* The ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' fanfic 'The Father-Son Talk', which can be found in the fanfic recommendations, correctly predicted that {{spoiler|Greed would separate from Ling}}.

** Naruto's mom had a similar personality? Check.

** Attacking with a multitude of miniature Rasengans? Check.

* The whole plot of the ''Zelda'' story ''[[Til the Sun Grows Cold|Til the Sun Grows Cold and the Stars Grow Old]]'' (which was written before ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword|The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]]'' had even been announced) revolves around the notion that Link and Zelda are the same souls repeatedly reincarnated over several lifetimes. Guess what [[Word of God]] confirmed in late 2011/early 2012?

* ''[[Total Drama Chris]]'' had Chris treating the contestants especially cruelly, far more extreme than he was on the actual show... for the time, at least. A few years later, by the time ''[[Total Drama Island|Total Drama Revenge of the Island]]'' started airing, though, Chris' sinking to such depravity has become completely canon.

 

 

* ''[[Galaxy Quest]]''. Uber-fan Brandon's reaction to Nesmith telling him that everything in the show is actually real.

 

 

== Literature ==

* In ''[[Harry Potter]]'': {{spoiler|R.A.B was Regulus Black, Harry was a Horcrux, Snape loved Lily}}... But really, with the sheer number of theories circulating, at least some of them had to become true.

** It was predicted early in the series that {{spoiler|Harry would marry Ginny and Ron would marry Hermione.}} People who were [[Genre Savvy]] enough probably figured this out about halfway through ''Philosopher's Stone'' -- {{spoiler|[[First Girl Wins]], both for Ron and Harry.}}

** The entirety of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvFiZyEyTA Accio Deathly Hallows.] Honestly. I feel the need to mark this entire thing as a spoiler.

* ''[[The Dresden Files]]'': {{spoiler|Harry will give Fidelacchius to Karrin Murphy, as confirmed in ''Small Favor''. Then the substance of the theory was promptly [[Jossed]] when she turned down the offer after drawing the sword once, although that could change at any time.}}

** Also, {{spoiler|Wizard Peabody}} is the turn coat.

* In the ''[[Wheel of Time]]'' series, Mat says to Tuon (in exasperation) "you are my wife" three times. In the section 2.5.7 of the FAQ for the Wheel Of Time series, a fan was quoted as saying: "What if Seanchan marriage customs are such that all you have to do to be married is say it three times? If this is the case, they're already married! The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. I think this is my new pet loony theory." In ''Knife of Dreams'', this turned out to be more or less accurate: under Seanchan marriage customs, she merely has to respond "you are my husband" three times to seal the deal, and later does so.

** This one wasn't so out-there. The look on Tuon's face was just too telling. It's also in-character for Mat for something like the above to happen. Reference {{spoiler|The Finn, his discovery of the ladies in the Stone of Tear, and his discovery of Birgitte's identity}}

* Everyone probably saw this coming, but [[Inheritance Cycle|Eragon]]'s father isn't who Paolini made you think he was. {{spoiler|He's Brom}}. Though this was more a failed attempt at an Author's Saving Throw to stop the comparisons to [[Star Wars]] in story. It ended up making people ''more'' likely to compare the two since now the farmboy has found out that his father {{spoiler|is secretly a man who once was a member of the wizard-knights who was no longer a wizard-knight after a great tragedy a long time ago that left his beloved female companion dead.}}

** Although there was a [http://www.blackmoor.ca/gwimpfcommissar1.htm limited edition female Commissar model] released back in 1998.

* ''[[Warrior Cats]]'': {{spoiler|Leafpool and Crowfeather being the Three's real parents}}.

** In his recap of the second-to-last episode of the first season of Nu Who, Jacob of ''[[Television Without Pity]]'' incorporated a lengthy rant on Gnosticism and the [[Everybody Is Jesus in Purgatory|parallels thereto]] in the revived series. He concluded from this analysis that, among other things, the season finale would have to involve the Doctor as the Devil battling a "fake bastard God" and being saved by a female character ("I hope it's the TARDIS, but it's probably Rose") as the incarnation of the goddess of wisdom. In his recap of the actual finale, he doesn't so much gloat as express relief that he doesn't look insane.

** There was a theory that in the episode "Flesh and Stone", the reason that the Doctor was wearing the jacket that he had just lost wasn't because of continuity errors, but because he was actually the Doctor from the future who had come back in time to talk to Amy. Those who subscribed to this theory were entirely correct.

** And on the subject of River, it was widely suggested that "The Good Man" that River killed would turn out to be {{spoiler|the Doctor himself}} - it was. He survived (sort of).

* Dr. Cox is {{spoiler|the new Chief of Medicine}} on ''[[Scrubs]]''.

* After the first few episodes of ''[[Power Rangers SPD]]'', one member of a popular Power Rangers forum declared that the Red Ranger of the [[Evil Counterpart|SPD A-Squad]] [[Samus Is a Girl|was in fact a woman]]. After hearing the voice of the Red Ranger, the forum member deduced from his experience with sound engineering that the voice was that of a woman which had been electronically adjusted to make it sound like a guy. Nobody believed him, because there had never been a female Red Ranger in the history of [[Power Rangers]] (or ''[[Super Sentai]]''). Eight months and thirty episodes later, the helmet comes off and... the Red Ranger is a woman! Said forum member celebrates by creating a new thread dedicated to his own awesomeness, mocking the people who didn't believe him and filling the thread with flashing GIFs declaring "I WAS RIGHT". Good game, sir. Of course, there was also the fact she was revealed to be ''evil''... Oh wait, some even guessed that as well.

** More recently, speculation for season four included many crazy theories about how Dean would escape hell, like this insane idea that an angel was going to rescue him and recruit him to do God's work and... wait, what? Really?

** Fans who thought Mary doomed her family and made a deal/huge mistake to screw Sam over from birth? You all get a cookie.

** Some ''Supernatural'' fans actually call this being Kripked. The Super-wiki even calls this triva by this name, and links to its own page for [[Jossed]].

** A similar dialog to the ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' example occurs between Chuck (the guy who writes the "Supernatural" books in-universe, who had thought they were just fiction that came to him) and Becky, his #1 fan/fanfic writer.

'''Becky''': I knew it! }}

* ''[[Firefly]]'''s comic spin-offs eventually validated the theory that {{spoiler|Book was an operative}}, although it's really not that far a leap after his role in ''Serenity'', and that {{spoiler|Zoe was pregnant with Wash's baby.}}

* ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]'' Season 3 actually made canonical two of the most off-the-wall fan theories there were: Sylar being Peter's brother, and the [[Big Bad]] being {{spoiler|Arthur Petrelli}}.

** They also seem to be playing with the "Sylar is Peter" theory from season 1 before Sylar's identity was revealed, by giving Peter Sylar's homicidal urges.

** From Volume Four: {{spoiler|Micah is Rebel}}

** Volume Five: {{spoiler|Sylar is good now!}}

*** To be fair, Volume Five being titled "Redemption" at the beginning made this kind of a "No duh!"

* ''[[Dollhouse]]'': Half the viewers who saw the episode where Victor is imprinted with {{spoiler|Dominic's}} mind immediately pounced on his use of the word "whiskey" in the presence of {{spoiler|Dr. Saunders}}. Guess who turned out to be a former Active?

* ''[[Neighbours]]'': Kate and Declan. They'd been making eyes at each other since Bridget's funeral!

* A very unusual example occuring between shows. Davis of [[Corner Gas]] proposed a very unusual theory about the original [[Battlestar Galactica]] and how {{spoiler|all humans on earth could have decended from the citizens on the Galactica}}. Several years after the show, guess how the remake ends.

* In ''[[Once Upon a Time (TV series)|Once Upon a Time]]'', many were theorising {{spoiler|Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin still remembered everything}}. They were right, of course.

 

 

== [[Toys]] ==

* It was a heavily discussed and controversial theory among ''[[Bionicle]]'' fans that [[Physical God]] Mata Nui might actually be an [[Humongous Mecha|enormous mechanoid]], and that the Matoran Universe is housed within his body. This is, of course, the real deal. Although the theory did have its share of supporters, in the form of fans who happened to stumble upon an illegally leaked teaser video earlier that year, which revealed just about the biggest surprise of the entire story.

 

 

== Video Games ==

** A popular fan theory was that Silver, [[The Rival]] of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|the second generation]], is [[Big Bad|Giovanni]]'s son. This was hinted at in ''FireRed and LeafGreen when one member of Team Rocket mentions that Giovanni's kid has red hair, and ultimately proven correct in HeartGold and SoulSilver as part of a sidequest unlocked by an event [[Time Travel|Celebi]]. While on the subject of the event, the fact it requires a promotional Celebi meant it was possible it would be given away as a promotional distribution event to promote the the next movie, and that meant it had a role in the movie. Come the announcement of the thirteenth movie, [[Pokémon: Zoroark: Master of Illusions|guess who's in it]]?

** Although the typical [[Fan Nickname|provisional name]] for ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'''s Grass starter was [[Smug Snake|Smugleaf]], a somewhat-close second was Snivy (snake+ivy, with the bonus of also sounding like snide+ivy). When the starter English names were revealed...[[Ascended Meme|the Grass-type was named Snivy]].

*** Some people came up with the off-the-wall theory that Oshawott would evolve into samurai otters. They were mostly right, it's final evolution is more of a samurai sea lion, but it's first evolution is definitely a samurai otter.

* After the release of ''The Burning Crusade'', some ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' players theorized that M'uru's capture was actually {{spoiler|voluntary on his part, a [[Plan]] to explose the blood elves to the Light as it truly is}}. Then patch 2.4.0 came out. Ouch!

** A more recent case: Weeks before players actually got to kill the [[Big Bad|Lich King]], it was revealed that someone else needs to take his mantle, or [[Zombie Apocalypse|hell breaks loose]]. Bolvar Fordragon, who was well-alive and Arthas's prisoner at the time, was one of the first few guesses.

** Around the time of the first expansion, ''The Burning Crusade'', players theorized that the little-known kingdom of Gilneas (which had isolated itself from the rest of the world) had succumbed to the worgen curse, and this theory was often used to suggest playable worgen. Guess which race became playable in the third expansion, ''Cataclysm'', and guess which kingdom they're from. Possibly includes a dash of [[Sure Why Not]] since around the same time that the theories popped up, the folks at [[Blizzard Entertainment]] admitted that they had forgotten about Gilneas.

** Another example from the Zelda series is that, between E3 2009 (where the first piece of concept art for the upcoming Wii ''Zelda'' game ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword|Skyward Sword]]'' was revealed) and E3 2010 (where some details of the game, including its title, were announced), people thought that the mysterious blue figure in the piece was the Master Sword (or more specifically, a more humanoid version of the Master Sword). Then in E3 of 2010, it was revealed that this mysterious blue figure was none other than the spirit of the Master Sword.

*** The game also gave credence to the long-standing theory that {{spoiler|Ganon is the reincarnation of a much older demon}}. Or rather, that {{spoiler|the essence of the demon's ''hatred'' manifested as Ganon}}, but either way, {{spoiler|Ganon's exists because of an ancient demon}}.

** Also as of ''[[All There in the Manual|Hyrule]] [[Word of God|Historia]]'', it turns out that the owl in ''Ocarina of Time'', Kaepora Gaebora was indeed a form of Rauru. People had deduced it from the Gossip Stone hints, but now it's been [http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/hyrule-historia-confirms-ocarina-of-time-owl-is-rauru/ confirmed.] The exact quote being "Rauru. He's the sage who built the Temple of Time in ancient times. Before Link pulled the Master Sword out, he followed Link's adventures as the owl Kaepora Gaebora."

** Fans were also right about ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap|Minish Cap]]'' being the first game timeline when it was originally released (it was kinda obvious: the Master sword doesn't appear, Ganondorf isn't even mentioned, and it explains where [[Memetic Outfit|Link's trademark pointy hat]] came from). It held the position of first game in the timeline until ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword|Skyward Sword]]'' was released several years later which was set even earlier.

** The [[Spin-Off]] game ''Mugen no Frontier SRW OG Saga'' introduces Aschen Brodel, a seemingly okay [[Expy]] of Lamia, starting from her android origins, same voice actress and color scheme. But then, comes her [[Split Personality]] problems to a [[Genki Girl]], mentioning Code DTD. And eventually it's confirmed that... she's a missing predecessor of Lamia, W07.

* The [[Wild Mass Guessing]] page for ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' mentioned the theory that Liquid never really came back from the dead and Ocelot was faking it to destroy the Patriots. It was very close to the mark with what happened with MGS4.

* For ''[[Fire Emblem]]: [[Fire Emblem Tellius|Path of Radiance]]'' people were putting out theories that the [[Black Knight]] was {{spoiler|Zelgius}} and [[Brainwashed and Crazy|Bertram]] was {{spoiler|Renning}}, which were proven right for ''Radiant Dawn''. However, it was backed by [[Dummied Out|an analysis of the game disc's]] contents by hackers (Bertram's portrait matched up with {{spoiler|an unused portrait of Renning}}). Of course, for those trying to avoid spoilers for the latter game definitely got a shock when a press release basically spoiled the Black Knight/{{spoiler|Zelgius}} connection.

** In ''[[Fire Emblem Akaneia|Shadow Dragon]]'' (the [[Video Game Remake|remake]] of ''The Dark Dragon and the Sword of Light''; [[Marth Debuted in Smash Bros|yes, the one with Marth in it]]), there is a four-chapter prologue detailing Marth's escape from his homeland Altea. This section introduces a new cavalier (in addition to Cain, Abel, and [[Crutch Character|Jagen]]) named Frey. The last chapter of the prologue forces the player to {{spoiler|designate one of his allies as a decoy scapegoat in order to ward off an approaching force of enemy units who are attempting to capture and kill Prince Marth.}} However, if you play on Hard, the prologue is skipped entirely and {{spoiler|Frey is nowhere to be seen, leading many players to believe that he was the canonical sacrifice.}} ''New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow'' (the remake of ''Mystery of the Emblem'', a retelling of the first game and a sequel to it) confirms to be true, but with a twist: {{spoiler|upon being discovered as a fake, Frey was wounded and [[Left for Dead]], but managed to survive his injuries (the only consequences of the attack being [[Good Scars, Evil Scars|a scar on his face]] and [[Trauma-Induced Amnesia|temporary amnesia]]).}}

** Keep in mind, he's probably doesn't even remember regular humans have round ears, the curse has been around since he was a little kid, after all.

* Several ''[[Mortal Kombat]]'' fans theorized that Noob Saibot was the elder Sub-Zero (the one who starred in ''Mythologies'' and was killed at the end of the first game) long before it was confirmed to be fact in ''Deception''.

** In ''[[Mortal Kombat 4|Gold]]'', the [[McNinja|Lin Kuei]]-turned cyborg Cyrax [[Suddenly Ethnicity|was revealed to be]] [[Ambiguously Brown|dark-skinned]] in his ending despite his clan being based in China. Cue the fan theory that the Lin Kuei kidnaps and enlists members into their ranks. Again, ''9'' lends credibility to this; Cyrax's bio states that he's Motswana and was recruited to join the Lin Kuei, while Smoke hails from Prague (as in, the Czech Republic).

** Jarate is considered a case of [[Sure Why Not]]? by [[Unpleasable Fanbase|some]]. This may also be the case with the Scout Update unlocks which resemble suggestions from the forums too much to be coincidence.

* ''[[Dynasty Warriors: Gundam]] 2'', did confirm, if only for its own continuity, [[Gundam Seed Destiny|Lacus Clyne's]] involvement in the Second Bloody Valentine War was mainly to seize control of the PLANTs for herself. Kira was left thinking [[What the Hell, Hero?|What the Hell]] [[Purity Sue]]?

* {{spoiler|Kinzo was already dead}} in ''[[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]]''. Intended to be revealed in episode 5, but instead revealed in episode 4 as the theory became hugely popular.

** Also two other important theories, namely: {{spoiler|Pony theory and Shkanon. The first tells about the motive for the murders and the second reveals that Kanon and Shannon are the same person, not only that, but also half the cast}}

** Though it wasn't as widespread, it was speculated that {{spoiler|as Roxas was Sora's Nobody, Vanitas would look like Sora as Ven looked like Roxas, and be Ven's Nobody or Heartless. Well, they were right on him looking like Sora.}}

** ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' actually played with this (if you can say this trivia can be played with) after ''Chain of Memories'' and before the sequel. Essentially, the fans were right and wrong simultaneously. The clues in ''CoM'' made it fairly obvious that the leader of the Organization was Ansem, and that the character DiZ was also Ansem. {{spoiler|This was true}}. So of course, by simple logic, DiZ had to be the leader of the Organization. '' {{spoiler|[[Jossed|Logic was wrong!]] [[Shocking Swerve|There were two people calling themselves Ansem, and one of them had become two people!]]''}} Did ''anyone'' see that coming?

** Also, on these very forums, people suggested that certain characters would be in ''Ten Desires''. {{spoiler|Yuyuko and Kogasa. They are - Yuyuko as stage 1 boss, Kogasa as stage 3 midboss}}

*** The latter was even suggested jokingly. The former was due to the plot revolving around spirits (and probably Youmu being playable) Which Reimu and Marisa notice (It's unknown how Sanae figures out where to go, and Youmu lives there anyway)

* In 2006, a fanfic about [[Maple Story]], ''Revolt of the Archers'', had a character say that " Final Attack is the key to the legendary fourth job." Come 2011, in the Jump! Update, a new skill called Advanced Final Attack was introduced to the 4th job skill tier.

* An interview with one of ''[[Call of Duty]]'''s former design team members confirmed that the World War II era Captain Price is the grandfather of the ''[[Modern Warfare]]'''s Captain Price. It was Infinity Ward's intention that there always be a Captain Price in their games, as a sort of a meta/mascot character.

* The professions of ''[[Guild Wars 2]]'' were revealed over an 18 month period between the first and last official releases. All of the professions were guessed from concept art soon after the first reveal, and the mesmer was almost certain as the final profession from about 10 months before the official reveal.

* In ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime goes to the core of Cybertron and ends up talking with a being in the core. While the credits only listed the being as "Core", many fans spectulated that it was Primus, the Transformers version of God. ''[[Transformers Prime]]'' takes place in the same universe and during his recap of the events in "One Shall Rise, Part 3", Ratchet confirms that it was Primus Optimus talked to.

 

 

== Web Original ==

* One ''[[Atop the Fourth Wall]]'' fan suggested that Mechakara was {{spoiler|Linkara's robot Pollo}}, which was quickly seized on by many other posters. It turned out to be ''partially'' right; Linkara notes in a commentary on the final Mechakara episode that {{spoiler|no one had guessed it was a Pollo ''from an [[Alternate Universe]]''.}}

** A lot of people guessed that {{spoiler|the Entity was [[The Missingno]]}}...they're right.

** And in a bit more sad/disturbingly funny case, it was kinda clear before they even said so that [[The Nostalgia Critic|Critic]] and the [[The Nostalgia Chick]] had [[Abusive Parents|shitty childhoods]].

** In the ''[[Suburban Knights]]'' commentary, Lindsay says that the Chick and Critic have a "history". TGWTG shippers punched the air in joy.

* Fans of ''[[Red vs. Blue]]'' predicted the [[Samus Is a Girl|reveal of Tex to be a girl]] several episodes before it happened. Years later, similar [[Epileptic Trees]] were validated at the end of ''Reconstruction'' where {{spoiler|1=Church was revealed to be the Alpha AI instead of a ghost}}.

* This was the reaction of several ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]'' members when it transpired that {{spoiler|Andrea Vanlandingham had not died (despite her death being announced by [[Big Bad|Danya]]) and was running around with [[Explosive Leash|no collar]].}}

 

 

* In ''[[Ctrl+Alt+Del]]'', several fans speculated that Lucas' blind date Kate was wearing a fat suit as a [[Secret Test of Character]] to see if he was a nice guy, and upon the revelation she was thin they would become a couple.

** The funniest part of this is that on 4Chan, the reasoning for this speculation was that it was the stupidest and most offensive ending Buckley could think of. Sure enough...

* ''[[Homestuck]]'' is a weird example of this, since Andrew Hussie [[Sure Why Not|likes to use fan theories as actual plot points during the story.]] He's even said that "90% of 'calling it' is really influencing it in disguise".

* The phrase was even used word-for-word in ''[[Dominic Deegan]]'' when Donovan Deegan revealed {{spoiler|he spoke perfect Orcish for years, and was just spewing forth random gibberish [[For the Lulz|just to screw with people, or rather, "Because it's funny"]].}}

* [http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=213.5 This guest comic] of ''[[The Last Days of Foxhound]]'' predicted an upcoming plot twist.

* In ''[[The Adventures of Dr. McNinja]]'', the titular doc says this after being told by Dracula that the cure for cancer has been hidden on Mars. Comic [http://drmcninja.com/archives/comic/11p19 here.]

* Tycho of ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' successfully predicted ''[[Star Wars: The Old Republic]]'' in 2006.

* In ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', the author Dan Shive has mentioned in commentaries instances where fans have have messaged him accurate predictions regarding certain plot points.

 

== Western Animation ==

* In ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]],'' Ursa being a part of Fire Lord Azulon's assassination was finally confirmed in season 3. Sort of an Untwist since it was heavily implied from the beginning.

** Even the name of Katara's mother (Kya) got called. Of course, it had shown up in the [[Pilot Episode|pilot]] as Katara's alternate name.

** The infamous season 2 finale was particularly effective because everyone was calling Zuko's [[Heel Face Turn]] from various points in the series (by "The Blue Spirit" the fandom had pretty much guessed this fate for him).

** Mind you, the full form of the most commonly seen "Sari {{spoiler|is a robot}}" theory was " {{spoiler|Sari is actually Arcee, or should we say [[Significant Anagram|"Arsi"]],}}" which turned out to be completely wrong. (And thank Primus it did. Seriously, {{spoiler|"Arsi"}}?)

* Some ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' fans speculated that Terry and Matt's parents were divorced because the boys both look nothing like their father (they have black hair, compared with Mary who is a redhead and Warren whose hair is light brown - genetically improbable). Flash forward to the [[Justice League Unlimited]] episode ''Epilogue'' which doubles as a [[Fully-Absorbed Finale]], and guess what? {{spoiler|CADMUS had Warren's genetic material overwritten with Bruce Wayne's, making him the boys' biological father. According to [[Word of God|the series' staff]], this decision was a [[Sure Why Not]] motivated by the realization of said genetic improbability.}}

* At the end of ''[[The Venture Brothers]]'' first season, Hank and Dean {{spoiler|are killed by The Monarch's henchmen,}} and the two prominent fan theories about the second season were {{spoiler|that Hank and Dean were clones (Dr. Venture's comment upon seeing the bodies was a deadpan "Get the clones")}} or that {{spoiler|Thaddius and Jonas, Jr. would be the "Venture Brothers" of the second season}}. The first theory proved correct and served as a major plot point for the next several seasons.

** Also note one of her dolls included a turtle/tortoise as her pet long before this episode.

* Invoked in-universe on an episode of ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants]].'' When we find out that the clam went on a rampage in ''The Smoking Peanut'' because {{spoiler|Mr Krabs stole her egg,}} Patrick goes, [[Blatant Lies|"I knew it!"]]

 

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