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== Fan Works ==
* In ''[[Harry Potter and Thethe Methods of Rationality]]'', Harry learns methods of deception at higher levels, such that this becomes invoked. If you want to pretend that you don't know anything about something, you don't say "I don't know", you act as you anticipate your opponent anticipating your actions if you didn't know—in this case, pretending to clumsily fish for more information on the topic.
* Played with in ''[[My Immortal]]''. When <s> Ebony</s> Enoby travels back in time, she knows that <s>Snape</s> Snoop possessed <s>James</s> Samaro and made him kill <s>Lucious</s> Lucian. She, however, did not "want them to know [she] knew." Whether or not Tom knew she knew is not made clear, but it is likely, as {{spoiler|he is Volxemort and commanded Snop.}} "Suddenly it's a [[Sitcom]]," the dramatic reading snarked at this bit.
** Tom knew she knew that he knew that Snoop worked for Volxemort and possessed Samaro and... it kind of melts from there.
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== Films -- Animation ==
* Disney's ''[[Hercules (Disney1997 film)||Hercules]]'' has a variation. Hades is telling The Fates his [[Evil Plan]], but they keep interrupting him by saying they already know his plan, because they're the Fates and they ''know everything''. Hades eventually snaps and shouts ''I KNOW you know! I know! I get it! I get the concept!
 
 
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* In [[Timothy Zahn]]'s [[The Thrawn Trilogy]] (''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]'' books), part of [[Magnificent Bastard]] Thrawn's effectiveness in battle is based on his reputation: his enemies know fully well he's a a nigh-unparalleled master strategist and tactician, so from their perspective each and every move he makes is like Schrodinger's Gambit, existing in a state of It's A Trap and It's Not A Trap until they open the box and the waveform collapses.
** The climax of the third book brings this to an epic level. Thrawn knows that the New Republic wants to capture an important bit of technology, of which only three are known to exist, all on Imperial worlds. The New Republic knows that Thrawn knows this. They also know that one system is heavily protected while another is only lightly defended. Thrawn knows that they know this. The New Republic knows that Imperial Intelligence is very good and will pick up disinformation that shows an attack on the lightly protected system is in the works. Meanwhile they actually plan to attack the heavily-fortified one. Thrawn knows that the New Republic knows that his intelligence is that good, and that the "secret plans" are a deception, so he disregards those attack plans and prepares for the ''real'' attack.
** In the [[Hand of Thrawn]] Duology, set a decade later, a trio of Imperials conspire very successfully to make it look like Thrawn is [[Back Fromfrom the Dead]]. When Han Solo finally sees the (fake) Grand Admiral and has his suspicions deftly countered, it's a shock. Thrawn was, after all, alarmingly good at anticipating what people would do.
{{quote|'''Han:''' From now on, we can't trust anything we see. Anything we see, anything we hear, anything we think we ought to do. Not with Thrawn back on the scene.
'''Lando:''' Thrawn or no Thrawn, the Empire ''is'' still [[Vestigial Empire|down to eight sectors]]. Maybe this is really all he's going for, hoping to confuse Coruscant so badly it just freezes up.
'''Han:''' Who knows? That's what drives you so crazy about him. You try to do something and odds are it's exactly what he wanted you to do. You stand still and don't do anything, and he runs a smartrope around you. }}
* Zhuge Liang's [[wikipedia:Empty City Ruse|Empty City Ruse]] (from the fictionalized parts of ''[[Romance of the Three Kingdoms]]'') relies on this.
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'''Hannibal:''' Decker will understand it. }}
* In an episode of ''[[The Invisible Man (TV series)|The Invisible Man]]'' (2000), Darien gets implanted a spy nanobot by a [[Femme Fatale|former girlfriend]] working for the evil agency Crysalis (the details of how the nanobot was implanted are a bit embarrassing to him). The Agency finds out, so they Know that Crysalis know. So they plan to use him as a decoy, but later the secret is ruined, so Crysalis knows that the agency knows that Crysalis knows. And obviously, the Agency knows.
* Used mostly seriously on ''[[Studio 60 Onon the Sunset Strip]].'' Matt's assistant has told Danny about Matt's pill-popping. After Danny confronts Matt, she quietly walks into the room.
{{quote|'''Assistant:''' I know you know I told Danny.
'''Matt:''' I know you know I know. }}
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Need I say I care
Need I say that emotion's
[[Mood Whiplash|Something we don't share]]
I don't want to be sitting here
Trying to deceive you
'Cause you know I know, baby
That I don't wanna go'' }}
 
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We've known it from the start
Every time that I look at you
[[Tear Jerker|But I can't see the future]]
'Cause [[Department of Redundancy Department|you know I know, baby]]
That I don't wanna go'' }}
* "Come to the Sunshine", a '60s sunshine-pop ditty written by cult favorite (and future [[The Beach Boys|Beach Boys]] ''Smile'' collaborator) Van Dyke Parks and recorded by Harpers Bizarre, has in its chorus the line ''You know, I know, you know, that I love you''.
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== Radio ==
* ''John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme'', Ep. 3, gives us this brilliant example. Warning: Any and all attempts at comprehension may result in brain damage.
{{quote|'''Bob:''' Okay. I want you to listen very carefully and tell me if I've got this right. You're angry about what you think I said about what you said about what you thought I said (but we now both agree I didn't say) about what you thought I thought you thought about what I did when you did what you did when I didn't do what you thought I said I would do but what I thought I said I would try to do, is that right?
'''Alice:''' Yes.
'''Bob:''' Yeah I thought so. Well I didn't say that.
'''Alice:''' Yes you did! You said you couldn't believe I said what I said about what I thought you said (but which we do agree you didn't say) because you thought I said I said what I said not because you didn't do what you said you'd do but because you said you'd do it, and that makes me feel that you feel that I feel that you don't feel what I feel.
'''Bob:''' You know I feel you feel I feel what you feel.
'''Alice:''' Yes but I don't feel you know I know that and that's why I said what I said.
'''Bob:''' What did you say?
'''Alice:''' That sometimes, I think you're a little over-analytical--
'''Bob:''' Bollocks.}}
 
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'''Boyd''': Of ''course'' you're going to the book depository! }}
* [[Frozen Synapse]] requires players to think like this constantly.
* This is often done by the players themselves during wifi [[Pokémon]] battles. Ha, you've sent out your [[Sea Monster|Gyarados]] against my [[Starfish Aliens|Starmie]]? I'll just use [[Shock and Awe|Thunderbolt]] to exploit your [[For Massive Damage|4x weakness]] to electricity! But you know I'll do that. So you'll [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors|switch in a ground type that will be immune]], so I should use [[Making a Splash|Surf]]. But you know that I know that you know, so you'll leave in Gyarados, letting it soak up the [[NoWon't SellWork On Me|not-very-effective hit]] in exchange for hitting me with [[Death or Glory Attack|Giga Impact]]; therefore, I should use Thunderbolt after all. But you know that I know that you know that I know, so you'll switch out, and--
** Tthe opponent is in the exact same situation because you could [[Take a Third Option]]: switch out ''yourself'' into say a Grass-type that could handle either Water or Ground (and other options exist, so unless all of the opponent's Pokemon have already been revealed, you never know what may be brought out next).
* [[Platform Game]]: Any type of this game can have this trope come into play with various types of trap like the [[Pressure Plate]] trap or [[Kaizo Trap]]. One example is in [[Limbo]], which has one a [[Pressure Plate]] trap, and then another right after. This leads to the I Know You Know I Know because any semi-competent [[Genre Savvy]] gamer is going to go "Well, it's obvious that the 2nd trap is an inverted version of the first... but wait.. if the designer knows that, he'll make the trap the opposite of the inversion, so I should do the same thing I did on the first trap.. but he knows that I know that.." this loops around until the player simply chooses one at random, and likely dies anyway.
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'''Skipper:''' I million zillion switched.
'''Julien:''' And I switched them to infinity! So you have to shut up a little bit.
'''Skipper:''' Ah, but what you didn?t see coming is that [pulls off costume] [[Mind Screw|I am actually you!]]
'''Julien:''' Okay, nicely played. But if you are me, then by processing of elimination, [also pulls off costume] I must be you!
'''Skipper:''' Maybe, maybe. But if you are me, and I am you, then we must ''both'' be? }}
* An episode of ''[[Samurai Jack]]'' had Jack and [[Big Bad|Aku]] agreeing to a final duel with no swords or special powers. Naturally, [[I Lied|Aku cheats]], which Jack prepared for by bringing his sword and hiding it. But Aku knew Jack would know that he cheated, and had a minion find the sword. But Jack knew that Aku knew that Jack knew that Aku would cheat, so he planted a decoy sword. But Aku knew that Jack knew that Aku knew that Jack knew that Aku would cheat, so he had his minions look for more swords. But [[Overly Long Gag|Jack knew that Aku knew that Jack knew that Aku knew that Jack knew that Aku would cheat]], so he had his sword {{spoiler|buried underground}}.