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Compare [[Flirty Stepsiblings]].
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== Anime & Manga ==
* In ''[[Clannad (Visual Novel)|Clannad]]'', Tomoya once has a weird [[Imagine Spot]] about shipping [[Brother
** Tomoya seems to have a [[Little Sister Heroine|little sister kink]] in general, as he was ''very'' into it when Sunohara's little sister Mei started calling him [[Japanese Sibling Terminology|'niichan']]. He doesn't actually have a little sister, though.
* [[Bakugan]]. Mira is too obsessed with her brother. And Keith after meeting with Mira and accepting her on his side makes her wear dress and all dinner looks like... [[Subtext|a date]]. When Keith [[Heel Face Turn|becomes good]] they share some sweet moments and she even [[Luminescent Blush|BLUSHES]] then they talk. Squint at the final ending, they live together and their interaction isn't unlike those of newly married couple, and [[Ho Yay|Gus]] is nowhere to be seen, so...
* The ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' dub creates an interesting [[Inverted Trope|inversion]] with Haruka and Michiru/Amara and Michelle. The romantic subtext is ''meant'' to be there... but they're not supposed to be cousins in the original. The company that decide to make them cousins did so for the exact reason of preventing there being any openly gay people in the show, without actually changing enough other stuff to even try and hide how they feel for each other, just hoping no one would think it's odd for two cousins to be THAT devoted to each other. Cause, you know, having a clear subtext of an incestuous, gay, relationship is so much better then just an open gay one without the incest.
* Many in ''[[Code Geass (Anime)|Code Geass]]'' -- of course, everybody already knows about Lelouch and [[Memetic Mutation|memetic]] [[Big Brother Instinct|siscon]], who started a war for his sister Nunnally's sake, but an even better example of this trope would have to be the last episode, where they both tell each other "I love you" using the Japanese terms ''aishiteru'' and ''aishite imasu'', which are generally used for romantic affection. Lelouch has this with his half-sister Euphemia, as well.
** Mind you, there is so much of this subtext that the series [[Brother
* As the title suggests, ''[[Sister Princess (Light Novel)|Sister Princess]]'' is full of this, particularly with the older sisters to their brother: one actively flirts with him, one gets from him a hairpin that used to be another man's gift to his wife, and one {{spoiler|was his lover in a previous life}}. Oh, and all of them get to have a fake wedding with him. And that's just the start.
* In ''[[Naruto]]'', {{spoiler|After he met his mom Kushina in the mindscape, the Naruto/Kushina}} subtext was really blatant, with him calling her a "babe", her blushing multiple times... Of course, this was probably due to {{spoiler|her absence eliminating the possibility of the Westermarck Effect kicking in.}}
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* ''[[Pandora Hearts]]'': Gil's younger brother, Vincent, is [[Yandere|extremely possessive]] of him.
* Yui & Ui from [[K-On!]] are VERY close...Both are extremely affectionate towards the other, Ui has ended up crying at the realization Yui will be/is gone on vacation. Ui's character song is literally titled [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic|"Lovely Sister LOVE"]] while Yui wrote what amounts to a love song to Ui...
* In ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam (Anime)|Mobile Suit Gundam]]'', there are rather questionable actions Gihren Zabi takes in the series concerning his sister Kycilia. Firstly there's the indifferent behavior Gihren has towards Garma and Dozle's deaths, and having no qualms with [[Self Made Orphan|killing Degwin]], but yet specifically stating that he plans to rule the new Zeon with ''[[Terms of Endangerment|"dear sister"]]''. Then also going out of his way to make sure Kycilia was warned about the Solar Ray firing by a messenger so she wouldn't be killed, the same weapon that intentionally killed daddy. And of course there's the [[Green
* The ''artists'' for both the ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni]]'' manga and anime adaptations really played up the twincest in official art. It doesn't help that there actually is some subtext in the anime, even though both have male love interests.
** In the original [[Visual Novel]], Shion actually says to Mion that "If you were a guy, I would fall in love with you". Curiously, she did NOT add "and if we weren't related".
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* Chiaki and Kana from ''[[Minami-ke]]'' seem to show rather unsisterly affections towards Haruka, regularly fawning over her and showering her with praise. Perhaps it might be because she's their [[Parental Substitute]], but the [[Beach Episode]] is very suspect, where they're incredibly eager to see her in a bikini.
* In [[Mai Hi ME]], there is some between Mai and her younger brother Takumi. Yuuichi and Akira both suspect that Takumi has a sister complex. Takumi is initially Mai's most important person (needed to summon her Child, although {{spoiler|by the time he dies, Yuuichi has replaced him}}), and she becomes upset when he, seeking to become independent, appears to be drifting away from her.
* ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''. There is some pretty heavy subtext between {{spoiler|Shinji and Rei}}, and it's later revealed that {{spoiler|Rei [[Cloning Blues|may]] or [[Half
* Pretty much the entire point of ''[[Onegai Twins]]'', although the two girls promise that whichever one is the sister can't be romantically involved with Maiku. Until they KNOW, though, both girls are very protective of another girl having a possible relationship with their possible brother. Of course, the series certainly implies that their promise wouldn't necessarily preclude the two girls being more than friendly with [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|each other]], especially given the amount of time they spend [[Fan Service|"skinshipping"]] together [[Furo Scene|in the bath]].
* Mairu and Kururi from ''[[Durarara]]'' seem to go past subtext. The two share a kiss in the second [[OVA]], and are particularly touchy-feely with each other if their dialogue in the chatroom is anything to go by. Even when the two of them kiss Aoba, Mairu is more excited about her [[Indirect Kiss]] with Kururi than anything else.
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== [[Fanfic]] ==
* In [[How I Became Yours Rise of the Agni Army]], brother-and-sister Kuzon and Lilith share a room despite being in their late teens/early adulthood, their beds not five feet away from each other. And Kuzon's dialogue to Lilith regarding her bad dreams sounds closer to what a concerned ''boyfriend'' would say, not a big brother. And hell, there hasn't been much more [[Incest Subtext]], but the WMG folder for the page already has theories that the siblings will marry their cousins due to there being ''no other cast members in the [[Five
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* Many ''[[Star Wars]]'' fans noticed Leia's later claim, that she had "always known" that Luke is her brother. Even when she was making out with him?
* At the end of ''[[Serenity (Film)|Serenity]]'', River is shown watching curiously from an air vent as Kaylee and Simon have sex.
** In ''[[Firefly (TV)|Firefly]]'', she also had a [[Father, I Want to Marry My Brother]] moment in a deleted scene.
{{quote| Simon: "It's just not something brothers and sisters do. I mean, on some planets... but only pretty bad ones." }}
** Their relationship in general throughout the series is ... greatly textured, mixing sibling, parent, doctor, and lover roles with the necessary abandon. Simon and his mei-mei are all each other have in the world. And when River's upset or sick, it's her brother's bed she curls up in.
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* ''[[The Boondock Saints]].'' That is all.
* [[Cruel Intentions]].
* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' (2011). [[
** It's only subtext until he cradles her face in his hand and she [[G
* The 1992 French movie ''L'Amant'' (''[[The Lover (Film)|The Lover]]'', adapted from the eponymous novel by Marguerite Duras). The female protagonist has a sexual vibe with her younger brother -- the sight of the two of them dancing closely is enough to drive the titular character to a jealous fury.
* [[All That Jazz]] flaunts this trope so flagrantly. Joel Gideon is a ceaseless womaniser and his daughter is a blossomingly beautiful young lady. In more than one scene she deliberately makes him feel awkward by talking about sex. Better still is the scene where they dance together, specifically because it shows how comfortable they are with eachothers' bodies in a ''non-sexual'' capacity. The fact that the jailbait daughter is so unmistakably beautiful and sex is such a recurring theme in the film leaves you actively looking for the sexual subtext, but as they dance they talk exactly how you expect a father and daughter to talk. By placing the ideas of "family" "dancing" and "sexuality" in our minds the film highlights how un-confused the issues are in the minds of the characters. Dancing is not sex, dancing is dancing.
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* In [[The Outsiders]], the Curtis brothers have so much of this going on, it's incredible. Ponyboy describes Sodapop as 'looking like a movie star', and they also sleep in the same bed with much cuddling and even late night talks about love. Not to mention the way Ponyboy describes his brothers' relationship can be really reminiscent of a couple of teenage parents. And we should not forget that scene when Soda is giving Darry a back massage.
** Made all the more egregious at the realization that [[Moustache De Plume|S.E. Hinton]] was not only a [[Yaoi Fangirl|woman]], but a [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls|college freshman]] when the book was published.
* ''[[Splinter of the Minds Eye]]'' is a [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] novel written after ''[[A New Hope]]'', but before Luke and Leia were known to be twins. And Han Solo is nowhere to be seen. Consequently, there is an ''amazing'' degree of [[UST]] in the book, though Luke nobly refrains from [[Dude, She's Like, in A Coma|kissing Leia while she's asleep]] and vows to protect her from everything, including himself.
{{quote| The Princess [[Take My Hand|caught him with a hand, her weight halting his slide]]. Now Luke rolled clear, came to a panting stop on her chest.<br />
For a long moment they lay like that, suspended in time. Then their eyes met with a gaze that could have penetrated light-years. }}
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* In ''[[Shake It Up]]'' there's a line where Tinka tells her brother Gunther (who's her dance partner) they can't get married. He looks heartbroken.
* This is joked about several times in ''[[Supernatural]]''. In "The Monster at the End of This Book", Sam and Dean discover a series of novels detailing their exploits has accumulated a fandom, including in-universe Sam/Dean shippers. In the episode "The Real Ghostbusters", the two guys [[Cosplay|Cosplaying]] as Sam and Dean turn out to be a couple.
* All ''over'' ''[[The Borgias]]'', but well, there's [[Real Life Writes the Plot|a reason for that]]. There's [[Big Brother Attraction|Cesare/Lucrezia]], where Lucrezia claims she'll never love a husband the way she loves Cesare, and where Cesare promises to cut her husband's heart out with a dinner knife. There's [[
* In [[The Waltons]], there were a few instances when John-Boy (the eldest son and narrator) and his mother, Olivia seemed to share more than just parent-child closeness. One notable example is the birthday episode when he reads a poem to her, a love poem nonetheless. They interact more like a couple during that scene than a mother ans on.
* This is played for laughs quite a bit on ''[[Arrested Development (TV)|Arrested Development]]''.
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* Rampant in ''[[Electra (Theatre)|Electra]]''. Electra's relationship to her dead father is slightly [[Deceased Parents Are the Best|unhealthy]] and has some incestuous undertones. Her relationship to her brother is ''all'' [[Subtext|undertones]].
** In Freudian psychology, the female equivalent to the Oedipus complex is called the "Elektra complex". The more you know.
* Many productions [[Played for Drama|emphasize the highly-charged, ultra-possessive relationship]] between [[Hamlet]] and Gertrude. Partially Justified in that Hamlet [["Well Done, Son" Guy|is trying to live up to his father's image]]
** Some productions imply a similar relationship between Ophelia and Laertes, possibly to emphasize his role as a [[Foil]] to Hamlet.
* Like [[Hamlet]], Gabe of [[Next to Normal]] is terribly possessive of his mother. They even slow dance together at one point. Given that Diana's in the grips of severe delusions and manic episodes, she probably doesn't care about the [[Unfortunate Implications]] of holding her son a bit too close.
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* ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'' has Magus (Janus) obsessed with trying to save/avenge/find/ Schala. He would even blow up the world to do it.
* [[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni|Ep. 5]] gives us this between Battler and Rosa: "Even though she was my aunt, she gave me a wink that would have made a man's heart jump."
* Liquid Snake and Solid Snake. Not so much in ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'', although he's such an enormous [[Large Ham]] that most of his lines sound flirty, but in ''[[Metal Gear Solid]] 4'' there's [[Squick|Squicky]] scenes where he sniffs Snake's hair, blows kisses at him, and grapples him from behind [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|while Snake is helpless and simply begging him to stop]]. Although, when they do actually kiss, Liquid is definitely not Liquid any more.
* Alfred in ''[[Resident Evil Code Veronica]]'' has an unhealthy devotion to Alexia which sure seems like incestuous feelings. Alexia is aware of this and exploits them to her own ends.
** Well, that last part is only going by ''[[Resident Evil the Darkside Chronicles (Video Game)|The Darkside Chronicles]]'', which may be [[Unreliable Narrator|a hazy, semi-canon depiction told secondhand by Leon]]. The original, however, definitely implies that it's not one-sided. Alexia gets ''mightily'' pissed when her first sight after waking up from cryostasis is that of her brother's corpse, [[Morality Chain|and it goes straight to hell from there]].
* [[Played for Laughs]] in Asuka Kazama's ending in ''[[Tekken (Video Game)|Tekken]] 5''. Asuka defeats Jin Kazama (her cousin, although she wasn't aware of the connection until ''6'') and, trying to wake him, accidentally undoes his [[Super
* ''[[Silent Hill Shattered Memories]]''. {{spoiler|Cheryl ''really'' loves her daddy.}} Even if there were no incestuous feelings, the appearance could not have been accidental.
* This is the impression many get upon playing through the story of ''[[Soul Series|Soulcalibur V]]''. Not only is Patroklos saddled with an [[Oedipus Complex]] for his {{spoiler|deceased}} mother Sophitia (to the point that {{spoiler|Elysium, the spirit of Soul Calibur, can manipulate him purely by [[A Form You Are Comfortable With|assuming his mother's form and beckoning to him]]}}), but his interactions with Pyrrha tend to carry an incestuous undercurrent as well. To be fair, Patroklos grew up raised by his father Rothion, who told him stories about his mother, spurring Patroklos [[So Proud of You|to follow in her path as a holy warrior]], whereas Pyrrha was stolen away from her family at a young age, but their affection, which ''should'' be a strong case of [[The Four Loves|storge]], goes on a crash collision with [[Relationship Writing Fumble]] and veers right into eros territory.
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