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{{quote|"''He is gay, guys. Only he doesn't talk about it all the time, on account of having interests outside of being gay?''"|'''Ryan North''' on Utahraptor, ''[[Dinosaur Comics]]''<ref>in title text for comic 1129.</ref>}}

Originally treated as a subversion of the [[Stereotype Gay|standard gay stereotypes]], the Straightcharacter Gaywho is '''Invisible to Gaydar''' is a homosexual character who has no [[Camp Gay|camp mannerisms]] or obviously 'gay' affectations.

In the earliest cases, Straightthose GaysInvisible to Gaydar were mostly there for farcical reasons: perhaps as a misunderstanding in which a straight character ends up unwittingly inviting himself out on a [[Not a Date|'date']] with a gay man, or in which a homophobic character espouses his views to a stranger only to find out that the person he's talking to is gay.

Currently, the StraightInvisible Gayto Gaydar character is [[Truth in Television]] showing the producers understand that not all gay men are screaming 'queens' or [[Gym Bunny|muscleheads]], or to provide a more [[But Not Too Gay|mainstream-friendly gay character]]. Alternatively, the plot may hinge on characters not suspecting that a character is gay (ie. they're in the closet), or it may be so incidental to the plot that it's [[Word of Gay|never actually mentioned on-screen]]. [[Queer People Are Funny|It's still used for cheap jokes, though]].

In some cases -- especiallycases—especially [[Soap Opera|Soap Operas]] -- thiss—this may be because of a [[Suddenly Sexuality]] switch for a previously heterosexual character.

* Kudo from ''[[Doki Doki School Hours]]'', contrasted with his totally straight [[Cross DresserCrossdresser|cross-dressing]] classmate Seki.

* {{spoiler|Gwen Lineford}} from ''[[Turn aA Gundam (Anime)|Turn a Gundam]]'', the first (and so far, only) character in the entire Gundam franchise to have an openly stated attraction to a member of the same sex. Then again, he might be [[No Bisexuals|bisexual]], but [[The Reveal]] of his unrequited love for the main character of the show is carefully held off until the last few episodes of the show.

* A good number of [[Seme]] characters fit this, particularly [[CLAMP]] ones. [[Tokyo Babylon|Seishiro]], [[Cardcaptor Sakura|Touya]], [[X 1999|Fuuma]], [[Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle|Kurogane]], and [[XxxHolic×××HOLiC|Doumeki]] all qualify, just to name a few.

** Subverted in their series [[Legal Drug]] when Kazahaya comments on Rikuo's "girly" like for chocolate, and "He wears his [[Sunglasses Atat Night]]" Saiga is really the one doing the feminine chores Kazahaya initially suspects Kakei of being responsible for. Disbelief on the latter tends to ensue.

* Zelda's teacher in ''[[Lotte no Omocha]]'' {{spoiler|retired because of a scandal he was in involving a young male student.}}

== [[Comic Books]] ==

* Probably{{verify}} the most wellbest-known gay comic book character, is Northstar.

* [[Top Ten|Steve "Jetman" Trainor from ''[[Top Ten]]'' misses out on this title in that his only negative quality seems to be that he's closeted.

* Poitr "Colossus" Rasputin from ''[[Ultimate X-Men]]'', and his boyfriend Northstar, again, but this one is from an alternate dimension than the one mentioned above.

* Duncan and Brian from ''[[Locke and Key]]''. Especially Brian.

* Although originally believed to be [[Bi the Way|bi]], [[Word of God]] says that [[X-Factor (comics)||Rictor]] found his relationships with Tabitha and Rahne ultimately unsatisfying and that he was simply deep in the closet.

* Generally very common in [[Slash Fic]]: as the characters are often intended as straight in canon or [[No Hugging, No Kissing|it's just not given much thought]], [[Slash Fic]] characters tend not to have the stereotypical gay traits most gay characters in media tend to have, if they're kept in character. That's a ''very'' big if, of course, see [[Wimpification]] for details. Moreover, while [[Camp Gay|Camp Gays]]s and [[Butch Lesbian|Butch Lesbians]]s are not terribly prevalent in [[Real Life]], many, if not most, queer people are not altogether [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar (queer women often note that even [[Lipstick Lesbian|Lipstick Lesbians]]s often [[Important Haircut|cut their hair very short]] when they [[Coming Out Story|come out of the closet]]), but if a fictional character is written as straight, they will, naturally, tend to act straight. Thus, this trope is incredibly common in [[Slash Fic]].

* A non-slash example could be found in ''[[Troper Works/Ultimate Spider Woman|Ultimate Spider-Woman: Change With The Light]]'', where Anna Watson's lesbianism is briefly mentioned by Mary Jane when she's explaining to Liz Allan why her cousin Kristy's father is not Mary Jane's uncle. When she appears in the story, Anna Watson is typically serving as a [[Parental Substitute]] to Mary Jane. She fills in for Mary Jane's mother, a [[Broken Bird]] who's in no shape to do the job herself because of everything she's been through at the hands of Phillip Watson, Mary Jane's father and Anna's brother.

== [[Film]] ==

* Ultimately averted by Willem Dafoe's character, FBI Agent Paul Smecker, in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''. He seems like a tough, straight detective, until he's seen in bed with another man. When the man wants to cuddle, he sneers, "Cuddle, what a fag", making it seem like he's a [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar, but throughout the film he makes a number of campy flourishes. He occasionally lisps and minces for humor's sake, and at one point sits on pink divan while petting a pink feather boa. In the end, he seems rather comfortable dressing in drag for a disguise. "Schmecker" or "Smecker" are American Yiddish euphemisms for "schmuck", which means "penis", and is often used as an insult.

** And, arguably, Kevin Kline as teacher Howard Brackett in the same movie -- althoughmovie—although Howard's musical tastes, hobbies, and intellectual refinement supposedly give away his gayness, he's certainly no more "gay acting" than Niles and Frasier Crane.

* Harry in ''[[Mamma Mia!]]''.

* Bernie, Mink and the Dane in ''[[Miller's Crossing]]'', who are all [[Gayngster|Gayngsters]]s

* ''The Boys in the Band'' features an example of pretty much every common gay stereotype. Sports-playing high school math teacher Hank, who's been married and has a young son and daughter, is the Straight Gay, though strictly speaking "Hank swings both ways, but with a definite preference" -- preference—preference for his own sex, that is. Arguably, Alan, the ostensibly straight guy who turns up, is in fact a closeted gay or bisexual and hence a Straight Gay. Bernard and Donald could also be seen as Straight Gays, and you might think Larry was straight if you didn't know he was a fashion photographer. The main character, Michael, says that in college he used to be 'straight-acting'. Now he's not.

* Zac Beaulieu from ''[[CRAZYC.R.A.Z.Y.]]''. But that might have to do with being an [[Armored Closet Gay]] who grows up in the 1960's to 1980's.

* Zach and Shaun from the movie ''[[Shelter]]''.

* In ''[[The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and& Clay]]'', most people are unaware that handsome film actor Tracy Bacon is gay. Clay is also a closeted gay man himself.

* Possibly the earliest example of this trope comes from E. M. Forster's ''Maurice'', written in 1914. The eponymous Maurice is written to be the most average young Englishman who ever averaged, who also happens to be gay. The resulting cognitive dissonance forms most of the novel's plot. Forster ''himself'' was a [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar.

* Marunde from ''[[Someone Else's War|Someone Elses War]]''.

* Will of the popular [[Sitcom]] ''[[Will and Grace]]'' is a gay lead who lacks most of the obvious [[Stereotype Gay]] elements, being only ''mildly'' gay by the standard of 1998 TV. Compared to [[Pet Homosexual]] Jack, however, he was the [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar. This was explained in one interview by the creators as a necessary part of getting the series to air. They knew that with the delicate balancing act going on between people who had no knowledge whatsoever of gay people other than what TV had told them, and actual gay people, they had to make things even. So they had Will, the "normal" gay guy, and Jack the "stereotypical" gay guy, with needing both to make the series work. The producers later brought in Vince, who worked with the NYPD and was rather butch, as Will's boyfriend, to have an even more straight example.

** Omar Little is a physically imposing and violent stick-up man who robs drug dealers. He is very openly homosexual, but displays no camp traits at all. His various boyfriends tend to be either [[The Twink|twinks]] or [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar as well.

* Michael Boatman's character on ''[[Spin City]]'' was gay; aside from being overly fastidious, and his dressing habits, he had no obvious 'gay' mannerisms at all--thoughall—though occasionally he showed a few signs, such as a deep knowledge of musicals and his treatment of his dog.

* George Huang from ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit|Law & Order: Special Victims Unit]]'' is so very [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar that his sexuality was debated for ''nine years'' until the episode "Hardwired" made specific reference to it.

* ''[[Extras]]'' had Andy embarrass himself when discussing his opinions of a [[Camp Gay]] man with his [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar associate.

* ''[[Emmerdale]]'''s trainee mechanic and fully qualified juvenile delinquent Aaron is [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar to the point that half the village initially thought he was faking it to avoid a prison sentence for a homophobic assault. His current love interest, a builder named Jackson, also qualifies, something that's [[Lampshade Hanging|discussed within the show]], as Jackson mocks Aaron for thinking he's the only gay man in the world with a manly job or personal angst about his straight gayness.

* In ''[[Two and Aa Half Men]]'', Chelsea's father, who is initially presented as homophobic, racist and several other things (like Chelsea's mother), but comes out and connects with an old army buddy, with whom he becomes romantically involved.

* ''[[Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)|Battlestar Galactica]]''{{'}}s {{spoiler|Gaeta}} is gay and in a relationship with Hoshi. Who would've thought?

* ''[[Love, Sidney]]'', the first American TV show with aan explicitly gay man as the lead character, pretty much never mentioned it [[Executive Meddling|after the first episode]].

* ''[[Soap]]'' has an odd example with Jodie. For much of the first season, he's [[Camp Gay]], what with cross-dressing, being a good decorator and tales of putting on makeup as a child. In later seasons, however, he's just [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar. Then there's his [[Armored Closet Gay|closeted]] on again, off again boyfriend Dennis (a football star), and his lesbian roommate Alice, both [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar.

* Teddy from ''[[Beverly Hills, 90210]]''.

* In the 1970s, ''[[Barney Miller]]'' had Zatelli, an unassuming uniform cop who mostly caused anxiety for Levitt, who was convinced he was bucking for his job.

** Mind you, just before that, Louis says, "I always get so closety at these family things", and Prior replies, "Butch, you get butch." Also, one of the first things Louis says to Joe is "run in my nylons", and when he gives his name he adds "but my friends call me Louise." So Louis obviously tends to act differently depending on his company. He has issues with drag queens (he claims they're sexist -- yetsexist—yet he obviously feminizes himself in a self-deprecating way in the scene where he first meets Joe). Basically, Louis' gender presentation (and attitudes about same) is another way in which Kushner points up his anguish which tends towards hypocrisy.

* [[Camp Gay|Albin]]'s partner Georges in ''[[La Cage Auxaux Folles]]'', who can play straight at least well enough to convince his new in-laws.

* Rod from ''[[Avenue Q]]'': "[[I Have This Friend|My friend's not like that]]. [[Gay Conservative|He's a Republican]]."

* Bruce Niles from ''[[The Normal Heart.]]''. Also an [[Armoured Closet Gay]], at least at work.

== [[Video Games]] ==

* Kevin Smith from ''[[Killer 7Killer7]]'' had a romantic relationship with another man according to [[All There in the Manual|companion book]] ''Hand in killer7'', although you wouldn't know this by just playing the game.

* [[BioWare]] started this one with Juhani from ''[[Knights of the Old Republic (video game)|JuhaniKnights of the Old Republic]]'', part because [[Lucas ArtsLucasArts]] pitched a fit, forcing them to [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|fly the whole thing under the radar]]. In-game, the fact of her being Jedi and a rare species of alien due to Mandalorian genocide are much more salient. However, they still managed to make her the ''first'' confirmed-to-be gay character in the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]].

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto: IV theThe Ballad of Gay Tony]]'': [[Captain Obvious|Gay Tony]]. Yes, seriously. Were it not for his nickname and a couple of odd quirks and rants, you might never know for sure what Tony Prince's orientation is. Some of the game's positive critics mention how Tony doesn't act stereotypically.

* ''[[Street Fighter|Zangief]]'': Zangief could be considered this depending on which side of the argument you're on. He shows no camp traits but there's been some strong hints towards him being gay in the original Japanese games without being overt.

* ''[[Guilty Gear|Venom]]'': Venom is the only canonically gay character from the ''Guilty Gear'' series. However, it's fairly common for people to not even know he's homosexual until either playing through to the end of his story or taking a glance at his bio.

* In ''[[Albion]]'', the way he talks about his late superior implies that the wizard Khunag may be this. True or not, talking to various Kenget Kamulos reveals that they endorse close bonds between their members, and even refer to Achilles and Patrocles as the ur-example.

* Arie van Bruggen in ''[[Deus Ex: Human Revolution|Deus Ex Human Revolution]]''. Once Jensen finds him, the first thing he says is "Sorry man, you're not my type". If it weren't for that single line, you'd think he was just your average straight [[Playful Hacker]].

* [[The Cape (trope)|The Utopian]] from ''[[Johnny Saturn]]'', as well as his boyfriend Lewis.

* Karl Kroenen from ''[http://abe-kroenen.livejournal.com Abe & Kroenen]''. Abe falls somewhere on the border between [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar and [[Camp Gay]], although it doesn't help that his action figure's hands have a tendency towards "limp wrist" gestures.

* Jhim from ''[[Something *Positive]]''. The only trait that stands out as particularly effeminate is his fondness for dance, but even that gets undermined when he complains to the rather dim choreographer that the ballet is too girlie and she says she's sorry, she composed it thinking he was gay. Another character who never actually appeared onscreen was Branwen's father, who married Branwen's mother as a combination of [[The Beard]] for him, her disdain for sex, and their mutual desire for kids. Davan has an awkward meeting with the now-deceased father's lover and goes to Mike for explanation as he doesn't want to upset Branwen:

* Nestor from ''[[Montgrave]]''.

* Count Tethik of ''[[The Challenges of Zona]]''.

** [[Parodied]] when Drew mocks Rick for asking his mother for a flannel shirt for Christmas. [https://web.archive.org/web/20190821233909/http://www.blur-the-lines.com/?p=107\%5C]

** [[Discussed]], then [[Deconstruction|deconstructed]] when Drew considers whether he should check himself off as "Straight Acting" on a dating site, thinks of [[Camp Straight|what his heterosexual friends are like]], and decides against it. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160306021848/http://www.blur-the-lines.com/?p=147 Turns out that even straight people can be decidedly un-straight acting].

* Both TJ and Amal of ''[[The Less Than Epic Adventures of TJ and Amal]]''. TJ's case (according to [[Word of God]]) overlaps with [[Bi the Way]].

** Billy-Jay Clarke from the spin-off ''Evolution'', a standout football player, although in the closet.

* All of the non-straight characters from ''[[Fragile]]'' and its sequel ''Perpetual Change'' are examples of this

* The eponymous Gay Guy in ''[[Robot, Ninja and& Gay Guy]]''

** From the original season seven; there was a guy who was openly gay in the house. However, he said, "I'm not like your average gay guys - I like beer and football."

* Saladin, of the ''[[Whateley Universe]]''. He's a virile, muscular superhero at [[Super-Hero School|Whateley Academy]]. No one suspects him until he has to out himself because of a blackmailer.

* Gus and Wally from ''[[Mission Hill]]'' are an elderly gay couple who only display their sexuality when appropriate and are an early example of a gay couple on in a cartoon being portrayed in a wholly positive light. Gus is [[Manly Gay]], while Wally is [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar, if a bit wimpy.

* Mocked in ''[[Futurama]]'' when a muscular, dashing, macho man knocks down Fry's sand castle and hits on Leela. She rejects him, but when he tells her it was a business proposition that they didn't understand, she offers to go for a stroll with him, slightly disappointed that he wasn't attracted to her. He then adds insult to injury by telling Leela "No thanks ma'am, I'm actually gay" and walking off.

* ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|WaylonThe SmithersSimpsons]]'': Waylon Smithers is one of the most prominent [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar characters in mainstream media. About the only stereotypically "gay" trait he displays is his collecting of Malibu Stacy dolls, which in the Simpsons' universe is an [[Expy]] for [[Barbie]], and in one comic following up on the detergent debacle, crossdressing... as a [[Sailor Moon]] parody. Otherwise, any sexual aspects of his personality could just as easily be displayed by a heterosexual character without anyone noticing the difference, even if [[Hilarity Ensues]] when they're revealed to the audience. Even then, some people thought his collecting of Malibu Stacy dolls was showing he was wimpy than that he was gay.

* [[The Ren and Stimpy Show|Ren and Stimpy]], as [[Word of Gay|confirmed]] by [[John Kricfalusi]] in a 1997 magazine. With the release of ''Adult Party Cartoon'', the statement became very, very explicitly canon. (Though Ren became more of a [[Depraved Bisexual]]).

* An excellent example in ''[[Archer]].'': Basically, Archer's been forced by his mother to sleep with a gay man to later blackmail him. Archer believes that everyone who is gay is automatically [[Manly Gay]], so he first approaches the man in some incredibly small daisy dukes and tank top, making over the top sexual innuendo, and even dyeing his hair blonde. He's later advised by two other gay men, who are one half this trope, the other half [[Manly Gay]], to just use his typical [[Casanova]] attitude on the man the same as if he were a woman.

== [[Real Life]] ==

* [[Leslie Cheung]] is this -despite his boyish looks and beautiful and almost feminine facial features- in real life and the character Ho Po-Wing he portrayed in ''Happy Together'' by [[Wong Kar-wai]].

* [[Bohemian Rhapsody|Freddie Mercury of [[Queen]] seemed to switch between [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar (I Want it All, Spread Your Wings, Fat Bottomed Girls, Breakthru, etc.) and [[Camp Gay]] (Seaside Rendezvous, Killer Queen, Don't Try So Hard, Good Old-Fashioned Loverboy, etc.) on a whim. He probably found this easy to do because [[Bi the Way|he was actually bisexual]].

* Cam Clarke, [[Metal Gear Solid|Liquid Snake]]? [[Tales of Symphonia|Kratos Aurion]]? [[Akira|Kaneda]]? [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|Leonardo]]? [[World of Warcraft|A blood elf]]? The guy's openly gay and even remixed a number of romance songs so they come from a homosexual angle rather than a straight one, but the guy's about as [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar as you can get. Then again, he's also He-man...

* [[Neil Patrick Harris]]. The fact that he playsplayed Barney on ''[[How I Met Your Mother|Barney]]'' - the straightest man in the history of TV shows, - enforces this image even more. He plays himself as an unapologetic womanizer in the ''[[Harold and& Kumar Go to White Castle]]'' movies, in spite of hallucinating himself riding a unicorn over a rainbow. The gay entertainment site [http://www.afterelton.com AfterElton.com] made a list over gay actors who made unforgettable straight men, placing [http://www.afterelton.com/movies/2009/4/gayswhoplayedstraight Harris at the top.]

* Let's not forget the great pioneer of computing, Alan Turing, who was forced, as part of [[Values Dissonance|his sentence for being gay, to take hormone treatments in order to repress his sexuality]]. He found the situation so distressing [[Driven to Suicide|he committed suicide by eating a cyanide-laced apple]]. Of course, it was [[The Fifties]], and the cyanide-laced apple was a tribute to ''[[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs]]'', so he may have ended up a [[Camp Gay]] in another time or place. From Andrew Hodges' biography ''Alan Turing: The Enigma'' we may conclude Alan was so 100% [[One of Us|boffin]] he had no room for queenliness. He did however possess an understated sense of humor.

* And of course there is [[Stephen Fry]], the most unassuming British man--gayman—gay, straight, or anything else--onelse—on the planet.

* Even though he's played roles of gay men and/or drag queens in film and television, most fans of [[Chappelle's Show|Dave Chappelle]] would be surprised to know that [http://www.afterelton.com/archive/elton/people/2005/photos/guillermo%20diaz/fence.jpg Guillermo] [https://web.archive.org/web/20110208115038/http://freshplays.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/guillermo-diaz77579827.jpg Diaz] aka "Scarface" from ''[[Half Baked]]'' is openly gay.

* [[wikipedia:Ricky Martin#Personal life|Ricky Martin]], who came out of the closet few days ago (as of this addition){{when}}. Though in his case, lotsalots of people had been [[Transparent Closet|speculating about his sexuality]] and were just wondering ''when'' would he admit it.

* [[James Randi]], who came out in April 2010 at the age of 81. Oddly, not a single self-professed psychic was able to discern and predict this information beforehand.

* There are currently two state governors and the federal foreign minister in Germany who are gay. All of them as straight gay as it gets. Most famous gay people in Germany are very [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar...

* In most places, openly gay people seeking and winning elected office is a recent thing--ifthing—if it happens at all. Most gay male politicians are [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar, especially today:

** Germany has or has recently had not one, not two, but ''three'' openly-gay men at the highest levels of government--eachgovernment—each one from a different political party.

*** Ole von Beust, Mayor of Hamburg (Germany's second-largest city, its largest port, and itself a ''Bundesland'') 2001-2010, a member of the conservative Christian Democratic Union. Unlike Wowereit, Beust was very rudely outed by his homophobic vice-mayor (whom he had just fired for sound political reasons)--an announcement that surprised pretty much everyone. A conservative from an old aristocratic family, Beust regards his orientation as a private matter, and is ''very'' much a [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar. Beust also had an openly-gay man in his Senate (the term for the cabinet of Hamburg), the Justice Senator Roger Kusch (ex-CDU, currently head of his own breakaway party).

*** At the federal level, Guido Westerwelle was the leader of the classical liberal Free Democratic Party--theParty—the third-largest party in the ''Bundestag''--which—which, being in coalition with the ruling Christian Democrats, makes him Vice-Chancellor and Foreign Minister (the highest posts in the German Cabinet after the Chancellor). Owing to some really embarrassing defeats in the 2011 state elections, he declined to run for re-election as party head at the May 2011 FDP Congress; he remains the Foreign Minister and Vice-Chancellor, although he's having to fight to keep those offices and may not be able to hold on much longer. It should be noted, to be fair, nobody was terribly surprised when it came out; in a situation comparable to [[John Barrowman]], while Westerwelle doesn't sent out any of the "traditional" signals of "gayness" (either in the camp or hard direction), he nevertheless managed to register on all but the least sensitive gaydars.

** Congressman Barney Frank. The antigay jokes his political opponents throw at him ("Dancing Queen" being popular, for some reason) probably come from an incident in the 1980s when a male prostitution ring was operating out of ''his own house'' by Frank's then-lover, a male hooker named Steve Gobi<ref> In Frank's defense, he said that he knew nothing of Gobi's activities.</ref> Otherwise, the man is one of the stereotypically straightest guys in Congress, being the least fashionable, least smooth talking guy on the planet, which he openly [[Self-Deprecation|references when he's making fun of himself]]. He's also a nerd about ''financial policy'', possibly the un-sexiest area of policy short of municipal drainage. On the other hand, after the Great Economics Mess Up Of 2008-9, his nerdiness put this area of interest in the spotlight, and the financial reform that passed in 2010 (the [[wikipedia:Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act|Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act]]) is the first piece of major American federal legislation with an openly gay man's name on it.

** Also from the US, the late [[San Francisco]] Supervisor Harvey Milk. He loved opera, but he also played football in high school, majored in math in college, made lieutenant in the Navy during the Korean War, worked as an actuary before becoming a hippie, and wholly lacked camp mannerisms. Nevertheless assassinated--forassassinated—for purely political reasons, although the assassin was in fact a homophobe--ashomophobe—as dramatized in [[Milk|the biopic]].

* Sir [[Elton John]] switched his public/stage persona from [[Camp Gay]] to [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar in [[The Nineties]]. The [[Expository Hairstyle Change]] helped quite a bit.

** He also performed with another [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar artist, the aforementioned George Michael. Their duet version of "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me" is definitely [[Crowning Music of Awesome]].

* Robert Reed, better known to most people as Mike Brady from ''[[The Brady Bunch]]'' was as [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar as they come. While most of his co-stars knew his sexuality, the general public never had the first clue. He was only outed after his death from AIDS.

* Russel Tovey of ''[[Being Human (UK)]]''. Also known for playing the single most heterosexual character in ''[[The History Boys]]''.

* If they didn't say anything, Reichen Lehmkuhl and Chip Arndt of The Amazing Race a few seasons back would've turned heads since they were as [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar as they could get.

** Dan Kloeffler of ABC News made a fleeting reference to his own [[StraightInvisible Gay]]to Gaydar status while on the air with a clarification on ABC News's blog because of the above confirmation.

* The great scholar of philosophy, translator of [[Plato]], and controversial social critic Allan Bloom<ref>Not to be confused with literary critic Harold Bloom, to whom [[Kavorka Man|other]] [[Hot for Student|tropes]] apply</ref> was as close as one could be to this in an era in which being openly gay was, if not illegal, then seriously stigmatized. He was, however, as open as he could be given the times, and his habits rather remind one of Graham Chapman if he had been an American academic rather than a British comic (at least if [[Saul Bellow]]'s final novel ''Ravelstein''--widely—widely considered to be Bellow's [[Magnum Opus|masterpiece]]--a—a [[Roman à Clef]] about Bloom, is to be believed). He was also skeptical of the gay-rights movement in the form it took (not for its aims, but because he found it too sentimental and [[Friedrich Nietzsche|herd-like]])...so...um...yeah.