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{{trope}}
{{quote|''I once heard Dave Belasco Say<br />
''You couldn't stage a play today<br />
''If it wasn't for the Irish and the Jews!''|From the song "If it Wasn't For the Irish and the Jews"}}
 
No, this isn't [[I Thought It Meant|a place to list stale old jokes]], though it does have a very important connection to them. An [['''Irishman and Aa Jew]]''' is much subtler (and older) variation on [[Salt and Pepper]] (by comparison, [[White Dude, Black Dude|think of the Irishman as the "black dude" and the Jew as the "white dude"]] -- [[Dissimile|although the Jew will usually have slightly darker skin]]); it is a fairly common but typically low-key form of [[Odd Couple]] pairing that largely originated in [[Vaudeville]], making it [[Older Than Radio]].
 
Simply put, it refers to any situation in which there is extensive collaboration or pairing between an [[Useful Notes/Ireland|Irishman]] or [[The Irish Diaspora|Irish-American]] (the latter is ''much'' more common) and a [[Useful Notes/Judaism|Jewish]] person. This can apply either to an onscreen pairing of two fictional characters or to a [[Show Business|behind-the-scenes]] collaboration in [[Real Life]]. Interestingly, the latter seems to be ''far'' more common, and the full [[Odd Couple]] potential of this trope is rarely exploited, probably ''because'' the ethnicities are those of the performers themselves, and not so important to the characters they play.
 
You'll see this trope occur most often in [[Vaudeville]] and in works which originated there; both Irish-American and Jewish entertainers became quite successful on the Vaudeville circuit, and would have had contact with each other and collaborated together. Their real-life collaborations sometimes spilled over into the fictional characters they played and created. Another reason that these collaborations happen so often may be simpler - before World War II, anti-Semitism was virtually unknown in Ireland despite the fact that Dublin has been the home of a sizable Jewish community since at least the 13th century. Also, here's a Fun Fact - the Irish Constitution is one of only two in the world to mention the Jewish religion (it was also the first to mention it).
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The trope is most common in the USA, but can be found in Britain as well and in any other place where both ethnic groups live.
 
When the trope is exploited for [[Odd Couple]] purposes, it usually hinges on the ways in which the two characters' respective upbringings and outlooks on the world affect their personalities. Newsday critic Frank Lovece [http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/futurama-finds-a-new-future-on-comedy-central-1.1402526 outlined the two different traditions] of Irish-American and Jewish humour; the former is said to be concerned with the sentimental bonds of blood family, while the latter uses laughter as a defensive technique to deal with a cruel and hostile world. Along similar lines, self-described "Bad Catholic" writer John Zmirak [http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/zmirak/06750.html humourously contrasted] Irish Catholic guilt over [[Sex Is Evil|lust and concupiscence]] with Jewish guilt about [[Race Tropes|race]] and [[Urban Segregation|inequality]]- note how Vienna-born Jewish attorney Felix Frankfurter helped found the American Civil Liberties Union, while Irish-born Archbishop John T. McNicholas founded the [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legion_of_Decency:National Legion of Decency|National Legion of Decency]]. (To put it more bluntly, Irishmen are thought of as conservative and Jews as liberal, although this is by no means always so cut-and-dried: there have been socialist and even communist Irish, and Orthodox Jews tend to have very puritanical social mores.)
 
It is hard to generalize, but the Irish character will probably be [[Large Ham|bolder]] and more [[The Ace|self-assured]], but also more [[Too Dumb to Live|naive]] and possibly [[Ted Baxter|ignorant]]; the Jewish character is more likely to be a bit nervous and [[Lovable Coward|unresisting]], but probably [[The Smart Guy|smarter]] and [[Genre Savvy|more aware]] of how [[Crapsack World|the world actually works]], as well as willing to [[Deadpan Snarker|say exactly what he thinks of it]]. In a way, this could be an oblique allusion to [[Brains and Brawn]], or [[Bully and Wimp Pairing]], but it's usually much more subtle (if it is noticeable at all).
 
And of course, [[All Jews Are Ashkenazi|the Jew will most likely be a German or some kind of Slav (typically Russian) as far as nationhood goes]], while the Irishman will ''always'' be a Roman Catholic.
 
Sometimes an Italian or Italian-American will be thrown into the mix, possibly because, other than Irish and Jews, the Italians were the most visible immigrant group in America between about 1870 and 1920. When this happens, the Italian will often be a kind of double agent: siding with the Irishman on matters of personal morality and community life, and with the Jew when it comes to issues regarding the wider world, especially politics. The Italian might even be mistaken for a Jew due to similar coloring and facial features, although he (or she) will be more likely to intermarry with the Irish because of religious compatibility.
 
This trope was fairly common in the golden age of Vaudeville and still [https://web.archive.org/web/20100504095934/http://www.jewish-theatre.com/visitor/article_display.aspx?articleID=2601 persists in the theater today]; nonetheless, it has become much less prominent in recent years, as younger generations of each ethnic group assimilate to local norms and lose their distinctiveness. (This is particularly true of Jews, who mix with other ethnic groups through marriage more than any other American group, although paradoxically U.S. Jewish identity politics have grown stronger in the past decade.
 
{{examples|Examples:}}
 
== Film ==
 
* The great [[James Cagney]] [httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20160305073222/http://mahnishmah.com/system/scripts/modules/admin/pages/show_page.cgi?p=13241 got a lot of laughs] in the 1932 film ''Taxi'' by launching into [[Yiddish Asas a Second Language|fluent Yiddish]] in the presence of an [[Officer O 'Hara|Irish cop]]; Cagney (an Irish-American) had learned the language in school and on the streets of New York.
* ''[[Take Me Out To The Ball Game]]'', starring [[Frank Sinatra]] and [[Gene Kelly]], features a musical number entitled "O'Brien to Ryan to Goldberg" on the subject of a double play; snippets of vaguely "ethnic" music are included.
* Jim and Michelle in the ''[[American Pie]]'' movies. (Jim is a nerdy, repressed Jew, while the stereotypically red-haired Michelle is equally nerdy but outspoken and bawdy.)
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* [[Ben Stiller]] and [[Edward Norton]] in ''[[Keeping the Faith]]''. For bonus points, one is a rabbi, the other is a priest, and there is a bar involved.
* In [[The Last Hurrah]], Mayor Frank Skeffington's Jewish assistant Sam asks the mayor to do the drawing at a raffle for the Jewish War Veterans' Committee. Skeffington agrees to show up for the drawing and even buy a book of tickets, but wisely refuses to do the drawing himself.
{{quote| --"It'd be just my luck to pull a name like ''Paddy Murphy'' and then I'll have lost the Jewish vote- they'll say I palmed it".}}
* Even though he doesn't always play Jewish characters in his movies (and certainly isn't in this one), [[Adam Sandler]] as the title character in ''[[Billy Madison]]'' is tormented by a family of Irish-American bullies (and by Irish-American we mean ''very'' Irish-American: red hair, freckles, boorish and obnoxious, etc.) named O'Doyle. This eventually resulted in a [[Mythology Gag]] in another Sandler film, ''[[Click]]''.
* Similarly, ''[[Max KeeblesKeeble's Big Move]]'' has the titular Max, who is [[Ambiguously Jewish]] and even has a (somewhat) stereotypical [[Jewish Mother]], get picked on by red-haired, freckled tough guy Troy McGinty.
* There may be some [[Subtext]] along these lines in ''[[Weekend At Bernies|Weekend Atat Bernie's]]''. While there is no indication from their Anglo-Saxon surnames "Wilson" and "Parker", the characters played by Andrew McCarthy and Jonathan Silverman conform to some extent to these stereotypes- McCarthy's character is a confident, outgoing, booze-swilling and not-too-bright merrymaker (who takes to praying the "Hail Mary" under duress), whilst Silverman's character is neurotic and constantly aghast at the horrible things happening around him. McCarthy's character's aggressive pursuit of the fairer sex seems like it is in contradiction to the usual stereotype of the prudish Irishman, but the sequel reveals that his private life may be more in keeping with expectations.
 
== Literature ==
 
* [[Kinky Friedman]] and his pal McGovern.
* In J. D. Salinger's "Franny and Zooey" the characters' parents were once vaudeville performers. Their mother is Irish and their father is Jewish, the same as Salinger's own parents.
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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. [[The Other Wiki]] mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the [[ITV]] network, but it was transmitted in [[Stroke Country|Northern Ireland]].
* Used on one episode of ''[[Good Eats]]'', of all things. A scene explaining how corned beef came (erroneously) to be associated with Irish cuisine employed a Jewish rabbi and and Irish priest sitting in a bar. After some dialogue and an explanation<ref>Before the Great Famine, a fairly typical Irish dish was boiled ''bacon'' with potatoes and cabbage; when destitute immigrants arrived in New York City, they found that bacon was too scarce and expensive, so they replaced it with corned beef, which they purchased from stores owned by their new Jewish neighbors.</ref> from [[Drop in-In Character|Alton's nutritional anthropologist]], we get the set-up to a corny old-fashioned joke: "A priest, a rabbi, and a nutritional anthropologist walk into a bar..." Then Alton, the priest, and the rabbi all roll their eyes and get up to leave.
* A rare modern-day example is found in Comedy Central's two fake news shows, ''[[The Daily Show]]'' and ''[[The Colbert Report]]''. [[Jon Stewart]] ([[Stage Names|born]] Jonathan Liebowitz) takes news stories heavily laden with corruption, stupidity, and disaster, and handles them with [[Deadpan Snarker|sarcasm and exasperated]] <s>ranting</s> [[Yiddish Asas a Second Language|kvetching]]. [[Stephen Colbert|Stephen Colber]]'''[[Stephen Colbert|T]]''', despite the French-sounding pronunciation of his character's name, is predominantly Irish-American and unapologetically Catholic, and watching his [[Patriotic Fervor|onscreen persona]] is like watching every single patriotic [[George M Cohan|George M. Cohan]]<ref> Despite what it sounds like, the name "Cohan" is Irish: the Jewish name is usually "Coh'''e'''n".</ref> musical [[Up to Eleven|all at the same time]]. He also shares Gracie Allen's [[The Ditz|obliviousness to reality]].
** Interestingly, in the 1999 comedy ''[[Big Daddy]]'' [[Stereotype Flip|Stewart played Irish-American corporate lawyer Kevin Garrity, while]] [[Adam Sandler]] [[Stereotype Flip|was his "tough," blustering Jewish roommate, Sonny Koufax]].
* [[Conan O 'Brien]] and his former bandleader Max Weinberg would do a lot of comedy bits together on both ''[[Late Night]]'' and ''[[The Tonight Show]].'' [[Inverted Trope]] because O'Brien was neurotic and self-deprecating while Weinberg was the morally-loose [[Casanova]].
* The two male leads of ''[[All in The Family]]'' were Caroll O'Connor and Rob Reiner. Although neither of their ''characters'' were written to match their real-life ethnicities (Archie Bunker was a [[White Anglo Saxon Protestant|WASP]] and Mike Stivic was Chicago Polish), there was a considerable amount of [[Subtext]] going on, which many viewers noticed; O'Connor modeled Bunker's mannerisms and speech patterns on many of the blue-collar Irish-Americans he had known growing up, while Reiner [[Not Even Bothering Withwith the Accent|made no attempt whatsoever to sound like a Polish-American from Chicago]].
* This was the dynamic between [[William Shatner]] and [[James Spader]] on ''[[Boston Legal]]'', at least to a degree.
* MTV's early 90's sketch show ''[[The State]]'' featured a musical sketch entitled "The Jew, The Italian, and the Redheaded Gay," which exploded into a loud, Vaudeville-type production.
* In a strange meta-example, ''[[ItsIt's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]]'' (frequently called "''[[Seinfeld]]'' [[This Is Your Premise Onon Drugs|on crack]]") can also be seen as the Irishman to ''Seinfeld'''s Jew: despite using the same general sort of setup, the characters in ''It's Always Sunny'' have unmistakably Celtic names (and run an Irish-themed pub) and their brand of [[Comedic Sociopathy]] generally comes from overconfident, un-self-aware [[Idiot Plot|abject stupidity]], while the gang on ''Seinfeld'' were nit-picky about themselves, constantly whining and complaining, intellectuals/professionals, and consisted of three Jews (OK, one Jew,<ref>Jerry</ref> one Jewish-Italian half-breed,<ref>George</ref> and one guy who isn't supposed to be Jewish but totally comes off as Jewish<ref>Kramer</ref>) and one Eastern European Catholic played by a Jew.<ref>Elaine</ref>
* One of the all-time most popular detective pairings on ''[[Law and& Order (TV)|Law and Order]]'' was Mike Logan and Lennie Briscoe (although Briscoe is only ethnically Jewish; he was raised Catholic). This trope also holds true for the tag team of the show's most popular detective (Briscoe) and attorney (Jack McCoy), who shared star billing for ten years. For that matter, both [[Mc CoyMcCoy]] and predecessor Ben Stone were Irish-American prosecutors who consulted with Jewish District Attorney Adam Schiff.
* Mixed into one character to great effect in one ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' sketch -- asketch—a commercial parody of an album of ''Irish Drinking Songs''.
{{quote| '''They picked me face up off the floor and said now "Who'd be you?"''' <br />
'''I"m Paddy O'Mally O'Reily O'Berg, the drunken Irish Jew!''' }}
* [[Averted Trope]] / [[Inverted Trope]] on ''[[Glee]]''. Despite being [[The Ditz]] and [[Big Man Onon Campus]], Finn is a lot more sensitive and soft-spoken than either his teammate [[Jerk Jock|Puck]] or his [[Love Interest]] [[The Prima Donna|Rachel]], both of whom fall squarely under [[Informed Judaism]].
* In ''[[Being Human (TVUK)|Being Human]]'', John Mitchell the bold overconfident Irish [[Our Vampires Are Different|vampire]] and George Sands the shy smart Jewish [[Our Werewolves Are Different|werewolf]] are best friends.
 
== Music ==
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* ''Abie's Irish Rose'' was a stage play that was adapted for [[Film]] and [[Radio]], concerning a romance between a Jewish boy and an Irish-Catholic girl. It was a huge commercial success, and spawned many imitators, despite the fact that [[Critic Proof|the critics universally agreed]] that it was ''absolutely terrible'', not to mention ''deeply'' offensive to all ethnicities involved.
** Among the many imitators was the 1926 film (and subsequent film series) ''The Cohens and Kellys'', which inverted the sexes of the romantic pair (Irish-American boy, Jewish girl) and played up the "feuding families" aspects. The series was most famous for a lawsuit which resulted from it, in which the playwright who penned ''Abie's Irish Rose'' sued Universal Pictures for copyright infringement. Famously, Judge [[Awesome McCoolname|Learned Hand]]<ref> This was an opinion written for the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. However, since the was written by Hand and was a copyright case originating out of New York (hence the appeal up to the Second Circuit), it is given deference by most Courts as if it were a Supreme Court case.</ref> ruled that copyright protection could not apply to [[Stock Characters]].
** A short-lived [[CBS]] sitcom called ''Bridget Loves Bernie'' ran from 1972 to 1973, riffing off of the themes in ''Abie's Irish Rose''. Like ''Abie's Irish Rose'', it was popular with the viewing public, but unlike ''Rose'', offended members of the ethnic groups in question managed to get ''Bridget Loves Bernie'' canceled.
* The Broadway musical version of ''[[Young Frankenstein]]'' was penned by [[Mel Brooks]] and Thomas Meehan, in a fairly recent behind-the-scenes example. As in many of these cases, the fact of their ethnicity has little to do with the finished product, but it is remarkable that the trope persists long after the death of Vaudeville and the disintegration of the old New York City ethnic enclaves.
* Writer/lyricist Lynn Ahrens and composer Stephen Flaherty have collaborated on a number of musicals -- ''The Glorious Ones'' is the most recent, while ''Once On This Island'', ''Ragtime'', and ''Seussical'' are probably the most well-known.
* George M. Cohan worked with Sam H. Harris on many of his greatest hits.
* ''~[[Finian's Rainbow~]]'' incorporated elements of Irish folklore ([[Did Not Do the Research|more or less]]) and featured an Irish protagonist named McLongergan; the show was penned by an all-Jewish writing team.
* In ''[[Of Thee I Sing]]'', Wintergreen's campaign song claims he "loves the Irish and the Jews," and they are represented on his nomination committee by Francis X. Gilhooley and Louis Lippman.
* In the original script for ''The Last Five Years'', Cathy was Irish. There was even a song ("I Could Be In Love With Someone Like You") about how Jewish Jamie has always loved Irish girls. Truth in Television as the Jewish writer changed it and made Cathy Italian so she didn't too obviously resemble his Irish ex-wife.
* The two antagonists in Harold Pinter's "The Birthday Party" are a stereotypical pair of sinister gentlemen named [[Mc Cann]]McCann and Goldberg, who make a point of invoking their ethnic origins in their dialogue. Pinter himself was Jewish.
* In ''Louisiana Purchase'', the lawyer in the prologue warning the producers to disclaim everything in the show as fictional is "Sam Liebowitz of Rafferty, Driscoll, and O'Brien."
 
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* [[Harrison Ford]] manages to pull this one off all by himself.
{{quote| '''[[Adam Sandler]]:''' "He's a quarter Jewish -- not too shabby!"}}
* [[Alyson Hannigan]]'s parents. Whoever they are.
* Jeff Nimoy (yes, ''[[Leonard Nimoy|that]]'' Nimoy -- heNimoy—he's a second cousin once removed) and [[Quinton Flynn]].
* [[Ben Stiller]]'s parents had a comedy act based on this, and then they had him.
* Jeff Nimoy (yes, ''[[Leonard Nimoy|that]]'' Nimoy -- he's a second cousin once removed) and [[Quinton Flynn]].
* Israel’s former president, Haim Herzog, was an Irish Jew, and even spoke Gaelic.
* Ireland has had a Jewish community since at least the 13th century.
** But then, which country hasn't? Even Vatican City has had its share of Jewish popes and cardinals -- besidescardinals—besides the obvious Peter, many sources recall the scholar-Pope Sylvester II/Gerbert d'Aurillac as being of Jewish descent.
** That was more than likely used as an insult, as the prevailing attitude of the time was that Jews were 'Christ killers' and thus [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil]], and he was regularly demonized as a sorcerer after his death because of his impressive achievements, magic being another inaccurate trait prescribed to Jews by the superstitious, the uneducated and the stupid (most of Mediaeval society was at least two of these).
* Colin Quinn has recently{{when}} done a one man show on Broadway, directed by Jerry Seinfeld.
* [[Averted Trope|Contrary to popular belief]], Prohibition-era gangsters Dion O'Banion and Earl "Hymie" Weiss were not this trope. Weiss was actually a Catholic.
* Don Adams, star of ''[[Get Smart (TV)|Get Smart]]'', was the son of a Hungarian Jewish father and Irish Catholic mother, both of whom were effectively disowned by their families over the marriage. He was raised Catholic.
 
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[[Category:A Nice Jewish Index]]
[[Category:Race Tropes]]
[[Category:Irishman Andand Aa Jew]]
[[Category:Trope]]