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* Some fans of the ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' [[Light Novel|light novels]] did not take it kindly when their semi-obscure books were gonna be adapted into an anime and bring in new fans who never even heard of the books. Some of those fans also got pissed when it became a surprise hit and a [[Cash Cow Franchise]].
* There was once a time in which ''[[Inuyasha]]''; as well as pretty much every [[Rumiko Takahashi]] series, had a fanbase that was free to exist in public. But then, they became popular - Immediately, saying you like a Takahashi series nowadays, ''especially'' ''[[Inuyasha]]'' is tantamount to [[Suicide by Cop]].
* ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' has been hit with this since the early 2000s, when a large group of critics declared the show to be a masterpiece whilst having rudimentary ''at best'' understanding of the mecha genre. Those critics claimed all other mecha anime except ''Eva'' were [[Blatant Lies|shallow]] [[Merchandise-Driven|toy commercials]], and the fandom lapped it up like few others. Eventually the Eva fandom decided to pester the rest of the collective mecha fandom, and thus hell had been unleashed. It had gotten to the point mecha discussion sites stopped allowing ''Eva'' threads since they'd immediately fill with rabid fanboys hyping up the show and haters backlashing.
* ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' was once considered a [[Gateway Series|gateway anime]] in the 90s and an icon of feminism and girl power. Then when people realized everyone was watching it (especially the dubbed version), it became trendy to bash it for being "kiddie" or [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|sexist]]. Furthermore, despite the fact that many men used to be proud to claim themselves as fans, you're pretty much required to call it gay now if you're a dude.
* ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' is starting to head this way thanks to extreme [[Hype Backlash]].
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== Fan WorkWorks ==
* A Fritz Fraundorf [[Fanfic]] parodies this tendency in music, with a music store clerk who ''only'' likes unpopular bands. The ''instant'' one band he's been promoting is talked about on the radio in the store, he begins to trash them.
 
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== Literature ==
* This happened to ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'' with the massive turnout for ''[[Harry Potter/Harry Potter and Thethe Order of Thethe Phoenix (novel)|Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]''—many "fans" assumed [[J. K. Rowling|JK Rowling]] could get away with writing absolute crap from then on. However, they didn't so much drop the fandom as [[Unpleasable Fanbase|stick around to complain about everything]], thus proving their worth as True Fans.
** Happened to a lesser extent with the influx of new fans [[Harry Potter (film)|the filmfilms]] brought, but the fact that most of them read the books anyway reassured the original fanbase somewhat.
* A lot of long-time book fans of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' were unhappy with the caliber of fans introduced to ''LotR'' by the movie trilogy. Many "old-school" fans consider the movie lovers shallow and frivolous, ''especially'' if said movie lovers were subsequently turned on to the books by the movies.
** In one way at least it was quite relevant that older fans of the books hated the success of the movies- it made buying replacements for your now venerable and worn copies extraordinarily expensive. The books went from being $10~$15 each ($35 for the set including The Hobbit) to $20~30 PER BOOK. As with most major movie merchandising, every older print of the book suddenly disappeared, only to be replaced with new editions with oversized, tie-in covers....and that's only the [[Lot R]] books themselves. Tolkien's books had always had a great deal of secondary literature (books about the books), even a few written by J.R.R. or Christopher Tolkien, but after the movies came out? Merchandising mayhem.
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=== In General ===
* Music is by far the [[Trope Codifier]]. Sadly, this happens WAY too much among music fans. [[Trope Maker|Hell, this trope was primarily made by these guys]]. If a song or a performer is "mainstream", they automatically suck regardless if they actually suck or not. ''I liked that band before they were popular'' and ''I hate the band because they are popular'' are quite common mottos among "[[Fan Dumb|true music fans]]".
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20131026123131/http://store.dieselsweeties.com/products/elitism This T-shirt] pretty much sums up this trope. As does [http://www.google.com/imgres?q=music+snobs&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=829&tbm=isch&tbnid=DYOs2lFnrhdfKM:&imgrefurl=http://stackofdimes.com/%3Fp%3D1116&docid=aVtXaiSlPcgmXM&imgurl=http://stackofdimes.com/media/bands1.jpg&w=500&h=358&ei=904OT4etDZSNsAKRxrzfAw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=156&sig=113431404822408667155&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=188&start=0&ndsp=37&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&tx=58&ty=54 this one].
** [http://notalwaysright.com/righteous-indie-nation/10596 If I've already heard of it, I wouldn't buy it.]
* This also happens when a good song is well-liked by several people and is then subsequently given high prominence on a radio station's playlist—listener-selected or otherwise. In fairness, even the best song can become yawn-some when it's played on the radio all the live-long day, but this does not make it any more ridiculous to hear music elitists bashing it just because it's on the radio.
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** Heck, the IWC once LOVED [[John Cena]] at one point!
** ...and [[Triple H]], probably before all the political stories came to light. That is, if the dirtsheets are to be believed...
** And something happened to [[Kurt Angle]] between [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] and [[TNA]], as he came there minus the IWC fans who called him one of the best workers in the world, instead ridiculing [[Small Name, Big Ego|his delusional radio interviews and etc.]] and his past refusals to address supposed drug problems.
* [[CM Punk]] was a [[Smart Mark]] darling on the independent scene, with the fans hailing him as quite possibly the best wrestler in America (or at the very least, the best wrestler in [[Ring of Honor]], which is kind of synonymous these days). Then he signed with [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]], and became the centerpiece of its ECW revival, and now all of a sudden you can't go into a wrestling forum without hearing about how Punk is overrated and a sloppy wrestler. Some of this might be spillover anger from the ECW revival being mishandled; but Punk was one of the few bright spots of the show, and yet he seems to get the most criticism. Now that he's moved away from ECW onto Raw and then Smackdown and become world champ, the criticisms have only gotten worse.
** Partially due to [[Hype Backlash]]—a lot of [[Smart Mark|SmartMarks]] kept hearing how great Punk was from ROHbots when he was working long main event matches, against top level opponents, with free reign over his character and promos. Five minute extended squashes over Justin Credible didn't quite match up...
** Now that CM Punk has turned into a crazy cult-leader [[Heel]], he's won over a ''lot'' of his former detractors.
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** This happened with John Cena. Hell back in 2003 when he faced [[Brock Lesnar]] for the belt at Backlash, the majority of fans '''wanted''' him to win the title. Nowadays any IWC fan wanting Cena to win a title is almost unheard of. The main reason he's hated is because he's got a large kid fanbase.
** Even the [[Zack Ryder]] haters are already beginning to emerge. When he's not being pushed and he's got [[Z True Long Island Story]] pretty much telling WWE to push him the smarks are crying for him to be on TV. Now he's face and being pushed and there's haters calling his gimmick stale and saying it'll never get over.
* A bit of a borderline example. When former [[Ring of Honor]] champion Tyler Black decided to sign a [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] developmental contract in late 2010, the ROH fans immediately turned on him and called him a "sellout". Black admitted in a later interview that this bothered him, and he used those feelings as part of the [[Face Heel Turn|heel character he became due to the news]]. (In perhaps a bit of irony, Black supposedly also had the chance to re-negotiate his ROH contract, or also sign with [[TNA]]. Who convinced him to sign with [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]]? The aforementioned Evan Bourne).
** Black isn't the first ROH wrestler to turn an impending move to WWE into a heel run; the aforementioned CM Punk did the same thing.
 
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=== In General ===
* [[Video Game Genres|Video Games]] in general. Here's a little bit of homework... go onto a video game forum. Ask what the worst game they ever played is. Now count how many will trash a game that's popular. Round your answer to the nearest ''dozen''. It's amazing how often these threads include ''playable'' games and say they are the "Worst games ever". Wouldn't the worst games ever be the ones that are actually unplayable due to glitches and unintelligent design?
* [[Fan Dumb|Some]] [[PC vs. Console|PC gamers]] consider "consolization" to be synonymous with "[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|complete destruction of the series]]" (just look at this list!), and complete and total assha- er, fans who proclaim themselves as "[["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|Hardcore Gamers]]" hate " Casual Gamers". For an in-depth view at the latter phenomenon, read [https://web.archive.org/web/20110910210801/http://malstrom.50webs.com/washinghardcore2.htm this article]. Heck, even [[ThisTV Very WikiTropes]] has had [[Edit War]]s erupt occasionally on this page's examples sections. [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|This should be a sufficient enough indicator not to start any]].
* [[Expansion Pack]]s and [[Downloadable Content]] in general. In its early days, the concept was well received as it added more content to their favorite game(s). However when the concept was brought mainstream, [[Vocal Minority|a few companies began to abuse the concept including hiding the DLC in the game to begin with and placing the content at exuberant prices]], leading to many gamers denouncing DLC as a whole. Of course not everyone uses DLC that way, but simply announcing DLC for a game can lead to a lot of [[Internet Backdraft]], even if your intentions are not as they see.
* This will occur pretty much every time a new console is released, regardless of how wildly popular the company was with its previous console.
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* Mentioned in ''[[VG Cats]]'' [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=280 #269] concerning the complete and total assha- er, "hardcore gamers".
* Wondermark gets in on the act [http://wondermark.com/262/ here].
* ''Brax the Alien Rocker'', [https://web.archive.org/web/20140621004036/http://braxcomics.com/3-meet-manny here]:
{{quote|'''Manny:''' I like ''true'' indie music.
'''Brax:''' So, do you like [[Starflyer 59]]?
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* Quite a bit of forums were usually better before those "noobs" and "newbies" came in and ruined it all. This also includes any * Chans.
* You'll probably ''never'' hear anyone glad that their Roleplay chatroom hosts dozens of consistent members. This may be a [[Justified Trope]]—but rarely; just because people might be upset by not being given an opportunity to join in a storyline without being told or players playing a private story out and not giving others who can contribute a chance to join in, as well as trying to get a story ''everyone'' is involved in going only for one person to suddenly go offline or afk and being forced to either wait for them or continuing without them.
* In the [[Vocaloid]] fandom, wowaka and his songs have been experiencing this for a while, especially after one of his songs, World's End Dancehall, debuted at the top of the Vocaloid weekly rankings with an astronomical]] ''1.5 million'' points and stayed on top for two weeks straight (a rarity on the rankings).
** More commonly, Miku Hatsune suffers a lot of backlash purely for being too popular and "stealing the spotlight" from other Vocaloids. The tendency of the media to zero in on Miku rather than other Vocaloids hasn't helped matters.
* The general consensus on 4chan is that you can tell a [[Memetic Mutation|meme]] has run its course when it's mentioned by a news source. Most memes which the general public knows about ([[Chuck Norris]] facts, [[LOLcats]], [[Over Nine Thousand|OVER 9000]], [[Rickroll]]ing, [[All Your Base Are Belong to Us]]) inspire little but groan from the average poster. However, this is somewhat justified, since 1. Memes are basically jokes, and these people have seen the joke everywhere by this point, and 2. Memes are usually fads, and other media usually only find out about them long after the fad has run its course.