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He's not good. He's not nice. He's a [[Jerkass]]. What he just said is ''not'' what the main characters wanted to hear. And yet, he's ''right.''.
 
The jerkass in question can be anything from your ISO Standard [[Jerkass]] or [[Anti-Hero]] all the way up to any flavor of [[Villainvillain]] (though the chance is inversely proportional to the distance they go down the "slippery slope"). Whoever he or she is, they're seriously deficient in the morals department, at least from the point of view of the perspective characters. Then they have a moment where they say something undeniably true - the good guys don't have to ''like'' what he's saying, but they can't deny he's right without deluding themselves. Perhaps even the protagonist is caught on a moral stumbling block, and the antagonist is all too glad to point out their hypocrisy.
 
The ''other'' main reason a character is likely to say "[[I Can't Believe I'm Saying This|I don't believe I'm saying this]], but I agree with ''him''."
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** It doesn't change the fact that Alliser was telling the truth: The dead are walking, the Others are coming, and the kings and lords of Westeros are too busy fighting each other to do anything about it.
*** This is also a major bit of [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]] for Tyrion; knowing what a [[Jerkass]] Thorne is, Tyrion refused to see him when he arrived, and kept him waiting for so long that the severed, yet still moving, [[Our Zombies Are Different|wight]] hand Thorne had brought with him had rotted down to the bones. Had Tyrion seen him earlier, he would have been presented with indisputable proof that Thorne was telling the truth, and the course of the whole series might have been dramatically changed.
* In ''[[Harry Potter/Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (novel)|Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]'', Malfoy believes Hagrid's Blast-ended Skrewts are abominations of nature. The Skrewts are ''jet-propelled scorpion-leeches'' that eventually grow to be ten feet long {{spoiler|and are apparently illegal hybrids of Manticores and fire-crabs meaning they shouldn't even exist in the first place}}. While Hermoine defends the Skrewts in Hagrid's class out of loyalty to Hagrid, she privately agrees with Malfoy that the Skrewts are horrible monsters.
 
== Live-Action TV ==
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{{quote|'''Ashur''': My fucking treachery? When did YOU stand forth for Ashur? When did ANY OF YOU GREET ME SHORT OF MOCKERY, AND SCORN?!?!! FUCKING CUNTS!!! }}
* Annie's father in the ''[[Masters of Horror]]'' episode "Cigarette Burns". Kirby treats him like an unreasonable jerkass, but Kirby did get his daughter killed by indulging her drug habit, abysmally failed to get her on the right track despite agreeing with him to do so, is still massively in debt to him, and just evades him whenever the topic of repaying the loan comes up. {{spoiler|It's only when he resolves to kill Kirby that he crosses the line into outright villainy.}}
 
== Newspaper Comics ==
* Danae from ''[[Non Sequitur]]'' is a [[Straw Feminist]], a [[Windmill Crusader]], has created a [[Scam Religion]], and endless tries to use [[Loophole Abuse]] and/or [[Insane Troll Logic]] to gain money, influence, or both. However, unlike her brainy friend Jeffery (who usually points out the flaws in her hare-brained schemes) she's smart enough to know that zombies don't exist, something she tells Jeffery whenever he's preparing for a [[Zombie Apocalypse]].
** Of course, in Jeffery's defense here, while zombies have yet to appear in the strip, creatures that ''have'' appeared (as regulars) include [[Talking Animal]]s, ghosts, Martians, and sea monsters, so zombies [[Arbitrary Skepticism|might not be as infeasible as Danae believes.]]
* In ''[[Peanuts]]'', Lucy is a mean and "crabby" person who insults the rest of the cast, but sometimes she's very accurate in doing so:
** For instance, in one series of strips where Snoopy becomes a Beagle Scout and goes on a hike, Charlie Brown wonders if he got lost; Lucy is pretty certain he did, saying, "That stupid beagle couldn't find his way across the kitchen floor!" Not only did Snoopy get lost (and as Lucy is saying that, is waiting for the moon to rise, thinking that he can use it to find his way home because he thinks [[Shout-Out| the moon is always over Hollywood]]), he's eventually [[Never Live It Down| rescued by a Girl Scout selling cookies]].
** There was also the time Snoopy was promoted to Head Beagle. Lucy was comically terrified during the whole arc, calling him incompetent and saying he'd "probably get impeached". Unfortunately, she was right here too. Snoopy was a pretty incompetent Head Beagle (not helped by having Woodstock as a secretary or his predecessor, who left things an awful mess) and by his own admission, every one of the 120 decisions he made in a day was wrong. Eventually, true to Lucy's prediction, he was replaced.
 
== Theatre ==
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* Benson from ''[[Regular Show]]'' seems to embody this trope. While he is hard on Mordecai and Rigby, his anger often comes from their slacker attitudes and desire to be cool, which tend to screw things up or prolong the time it takes to complete menial tasks.
* In one episode of ''[[Rick and Morty]]'', Rick clearly does ''not'' want to go to Bird-Person and Tammy's wedding, despite being close friends with the groom. (Well, as much as Rick can be friends with anyone.) Rick just doesn't like weddings, claiming they're "funerals with cake". Nonetheless, he and his family attend, and it turns out it would have been better had they stayed away, as Tammy herself (who is secretly an agent of [[The Empire| the Federation]]) is using it as a sting operation to arrest them.
* Iago is the [[Token Evil Teammate]] among the protagonists of ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'', not to mention the rudest and most annoying. However, in one episode he opposed vehemently helping or trusting Caliph Kapok, simply because he was known to be a wizard. (Agrabah's experiences with wizards were unpleasant to say the least.) While such a suspicion at first seemed like [[Fantastic Racism| unfair stereotyping]], Iago had a valid point here, because Kapok was as evil as any other wizard they'd known. Notably, Aladdin himself had no response when Iago asked how many good sorcerers he's met.
* Sebastian from ''[[The Little Mermaid]]'' has a few moments of this; whenhe and Triton berate Ariel for missing her debut concert. As Sebastian points out, she humiliated him, ''and'' her sisters. When he sang "Under the Sea" in an attempt to persuade Ariel to stay put and enjoy what she has all around her as a princess of the ocean with the wonders of the coral reef and subjects who adore her, his true motive was to prevent ''him'' from getting in trouble, and a lot of bad things could have been avoided had he justnot panicked and kept his trap shut. Still, you can't deny that, being a crab, he was once of the few undersea denizens who could walk on land, and had seen enough of the human world to make a comparison. Plus, his statement that "the human world is a mess" is something quite a few viewers can agree with. Ariel also does get drawn into the song as fish and sea horses play with her. Later, he's completely right that trusting Ursula is a ''bad'' idea because the sea witch has a reputation for unfair deals and has a grudge against Triton. When he realizes that a mute and human Ariel would be miserable if they somehow reversed the deal, however, Sebastian agrees to at least try and outsmart the sea witch and help Ariel secure that kiss from Eric. It's Sebastian's music, when he berates Scuttle for being an "amateur" singer, that allows Eric to figure out Ariel's name and open up to her, leading to him realizing that he wants to be with her.
* What's sad about the social worker subplot in ''[[Lilo and Stitch]]'' is that Cobra Bubbles has a rather accurate picture of Nani's parenting skills when she's taking care of her little sister Lilo. She's barely an adult, trying to pay the bills on a menial job while having no time to grieve. He is sympathetic to the fact that both Nani and Lilo lost their parents, so he gives Nani a lot of opportunities to clean up her act after she and Lilo accidentally make a bad first impression on him. Nevertheless, Lilo's current living situation is not healthy: she's acting out after her parents' death by making voodoo dolls of her "friends" to punish them, locking herself in the house complete with nailing the front door shut, and has an obsession with placating Pudge the fish, whom she believes controls the weather. Nani also left the stove on while going to pick up Lilo, can't cook, and can barely keep up with laundry. Cobra sternly tells Nani none of this is okay; even if Lilo is obviously not being abused, this is not healthy for either her or Nani. Later, when Stitch accidentally gets Nani fired from her job, Cobra tells Nani that she needs a source of income to take care of a child. Even Nani, when she fails to get a job and Cobra apologetically schedules a pick-up time for Lilo to go to foster care, agrees with this sentiment. She tells Lilo, while they're spending what they think is their last night as a family, that even if this separation is terrible, it may be better for her sister in the long run. Fortunately, {{spoiler|the Grand Council sponsors the family after Cobra and Lilo prove that she owns Stitch, giving them financial support and guardianship to handle "626"; Cobra accepts this compromise, merely commenting it will be hard to explain at headquarters}}. Stitch also takes over the housekeeping, proving to be a fabulous cook if that birthday cake is any indication.
* In the fourth season of the [[Netflix]] reboot of ''[[Carmen Sandiego]]'', after managing to [[Brainwash]] Carmen, the other leaders of V.I.L.E. are so pleased with how much better off they are with her on their side that they want to give her the empty seat on the council. Carmen's nasty rival Tigress objects to this, believing it is a disaster waiting to happen, but she has no say in the matter. In the [[Series Finale]], after Carmen overcomes the brainwashing and leads Acme right to V.I.L.E.'s front door, Tigress ''does'' get a chance to give them an "I told you so", but it's cold comfort seeing as she's in prison with them.
 
== Real Life ==
* [[Cracked.com|Cracked]]'s list of [http://www.cracked.com/article_18499_the-5-biggest-assholes-who-ever-turned-out-to-be-right.html The 5 Biggest Assholes Who Turned Out to be Right] gives us a number of [[Truth in Television]] examples.