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{{quote|''...[[Averted Trope|we're not]] [[Killed Off for Real|killing off any of the companions]] because [[Player Preferred Pattern|everybody did]]. [[My God, What Have I Done?|And then everybody cried]]... People test as they're playing the system and they go... '[[Tempting Fate|I wonder if they're going to let me do this.]] [[Oh Crap|Oh no]]! My healer is gone forever'!''|[[Word of God|Daniel Erickson]] [http://darthhater.com/2011/09/24/egxp-interview-with-daniel-erickson/page/2 on] why ''[[Star Wars: The Old Republic]]'' is going to [[Averted Trope|Avert]] this.}}

Also frequently referred to as being "missable," the dreaded '''Lost Forever''' is a game play component (such as an item, weapon, [[Sidequest]], [[Secret Character|character]], or plot event) that can become permanently inaccessible after a certain point in the game, therefore being "lost forever" if you miss them during the period in which they are available. A close relative and often an example of [[Guide Dang It]]. The bane of gamers everywhere, especially those shooting for [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]], as it often forces them to start the entire game anew if they're not willing to accept a less-than-perfect run.

This is infamously present in [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]'s or any other game with online connectivity, due to one-time events, irreplaceable quest reward items (such as consumables that become [[Too Awesome to Use]]) distributed from an online source. While you can simply restart an offline game for another shot at the content, online Lost Forevers really can be lost ''forever''. (When it comes to patch updates, however, players who still have the old items are usually allowed to keep them, and the items are often displayed as a badge of honor.)

Due to their tendency to induce great frustration, smart developers tend to avoid implementing these, and allow players to collect items or do [[Sidequest|sidequestssidequest]]s [[Take Your Time|at their leisure]], whenever and in any order they want. Sometimes, this can result in silly situations where the player is presented with the option of returning to a location where there would be no logical reason to return to, such as, say, the site of a nuclear explosion. But, really, it's the lesser of the two evils.

Conversely, while most Lost Forevers are defined by the limited opportunity to ''acquire'' one, sometimes a particular item is acquired readily during a game's progress, but is irreplaceable once it is used up -- shouldup—should it get lost, stolen, or destroyed, you cannot acquire another one.

This trope is not to be confused with [[Final Death]], where a character permanently dies and cannot be resurrected. If it's an item deliberately taken away from you, it may be [[Awesome but Temporary]]. If something vital to the plot becomes [['''Lost Forever]]''', the game is [[Unwinnable]]. Lost Forever should also not be a [[Point of No Return]], where the game cuts off your access to prior areas. [[Chaos Emeralds]] can always be put in a Lost Forever situation since they are placed in [[Bonus Stage|Bonus Stages]]s. Missable items tend to be found in a [[One-Time Dungeon]].

== [[ActionVideo Adventure]]Games ==

* The freeware game ''[[Cave Story]]'' contains numerous easily missable one-shots, many of which are required in order to reach the [[Bonus Level of Hell|secret hell level]], which leads to the game's [[Multiple Endings|best ending]]. The worst of these moments: if you don't {{spoiler|search the corners of a certain room before triggering a cutscene, or search it after the boss fight and before [[Fission Mailed|your air supply runs out]], the tow rope, Curly Brace and}} the ability to obtain the best ending are [[Lost Forever]] in one fell swoop.

* ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'' games are by and large aversions of this trope -- Miyamototrope—Miyamoto has actually said in an interview that he always tries to avoid [[Lost Forever]] and Unwinnable scenarios in his games.

** Although ''[[The Wind Waker]]'' didn't have any permanently missable items that ''mattered'', if you wanted to achieve [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]] on your [[First-Person Snapshooter|pictography]] you needed to take a pictograph of everyone alive within the game; enemy, ally, NPC and boss alike. This is alleviated somewhat by the [[New Game+]] and the [[Boss Rush]] near Ganon's Tower near the end of the game, but it's difficult to get a photo op of certain subjects (like a random Rito NPC that [[Guide Dang It|inexplicably disappears after a plot event]]), so they can eventually become Lost Forever anyway.

** This game actually goes out of its way to ''avert'' [[Lost Forever]], especially with animals--evenanimals—even bosses have second chances to photograph them, usually by going back to their respective arenas. However, there is ''one'' that becomes, if not lost forever, difficult to acquire to the point of being meaningless. The Sarcophagus DomZ are fought exactly four times during the course of the game, and they don't respawn. The first time is in the intro, before you even ''have'' a camera. If you miss them the second and third times they spawn, they still appear once more--butmore—but only during the ''final boss battle.'' Which you can't save after (there's no [[Playable Epilogue]]), so the cool prize you get for getting all the animals (a catalogue of all your animal photographs) is totally useless.

** The same ring is a pain in ''[[Aria of Sorrow]]'', but for a different reason. You can't miss a boss soul in ''Dawn'', but in ''Aria'', there's exactly one you can miss -- andmiss—and it's easy to do. You ''must'' destroy Legion's entire shell before killing him if you want his soul. Again, [[New Game+]] is your best recourse if you miss it.

** In ''[[Castlevania: Circle of the Moon|Circle of the Moon]]'', there's a secret item crush accessed by using the DSS technique with no subweapon equipped and at least 100 Hearts in reserve. Since you can't unequip subweapons after the first time you pick one up, this technique is easily [[Lost Forever]]. Combined with the other requirements, it's also [[Awesome but Impractical]].

** Actually, the Knockback Jinx upgrade in ''Chamber of Secrets'' can only be obtained near the end of the game, but go too far and it's [[Lost Forever]], AND you can't get 100% completion. Ironically, when you get the upgrade, a speech glitch occurs. Perhaps EA planned on removing it?

* In the NSTC version of ''[[Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy]],'' one of the monsters necessary for the [[Collection Sidequest]], the Smiling Burble, can easily become Lost Forever. It only appears twice: The first time, it's part of a [[Multi Mook Melee]] that you can't replay, although three of them appear at once. The second time, it's in a tiny nook in one portion of a late-game dungeon, and if defeated, the monster that appears there does ''not'' respawn. If you don't catch it during one of these appearances, you won't be able to, and thus can't get [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]]. The PAL version, however, has the monster in the late dungeon respawn.

* The text-based game of ''[[LordThe Hobbit of(1982 thevideo Ringsgame)|The Hobbit]]'' required Bilbo to get assistance frequently from either Gandalf or Thorin--mostThorin—most notably, getting out of the goblins' dungeon (you had to be carried out the window) and getting into Smaug's cave via the side entrance (the key broke if Thorin died). The game also depended on the elves' ''butler'' to periodically open the door to the wood elves' dungeon. If these parties were killed, various areas became unreachable, and randomly spawning enemies like goblins and the vicious warg often killed them while Bilbo was elsewhere.

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* ''[[Myst]]'' and ''[[Riven]]'' are very hard to make [[Unwinnable]]. But ''Myst 3: Exile"'' has a snag quite late in the game: if you get the sequence of actions wrong when you confront Saavedro, he'll toss the [[MacGuffin|Releeshan book]] off a cliff... and you'll never get it back.

=== [[Card Battle Game]] ===

* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Nightmare Troubadour]]'' for the DS features an accidental example due to a glitch in some versions of the game: after beating Marik, the chance to duel Pegasus is lost forever, along with the chance to trade with him for the one-of-a-kind Imperial Order card. At one point there was a giveaway that would put the card on your game, and the game had online trades, but thatwith isthe mostdemise likelyof overonline for the Nintendo DS the only way to complete the card list is nowcheating.

=== [[Driving Game]] ===

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=== [[Fighting Game]] ===

* ''[[Mortal Kombat: Deception]]'' has a chest with one of its unlockable fighters, Kenshi, in the small village where your character begins the game as a child. Leaving the village causes your character to grow older, so the game prevents temporal anomalies by locking you out once you've left. If you leave before finding the chest containing the Kenshi unlock, it will be Lost Forever - the only way to get it is to start a new save file.

=== [[First-Person Shooter]] ===

* ''[[Borderlands]]'' has the Rider, a fairly standard scopeless sniper rifle. The gun itself is a reference to ''[[A Christmas Story]]'', both in its similarity in appearance to the BB gun Ralphie wanted for Christmas, and to the spoiler text -- "Careful... you might put someone's eye out" -- [[Shout-Out|which is a quote from the movie]]. It can be found in a hidden basement in New Haven, the entrance to which is only unlocked while a single mission -- {{spoiler|Another Piece of the Puzzle}} -- is—is active. Once the Vault Key piece is picked up, the door to the hidden basement locks again, and the Rider is lost {{spoiler|until you get back to New Haven in Playthrough 2}}.

* In ''[[Metroid Prime]]'', many of the scans become unavailable after a certain point. The two most notable examples are anything on the wrecked ship at the game's beginning, and the Ice Shriekbats ([[Regional Bonus|fixed in the PAL version]]), the one type of enemy that doesn't respawn (and that has the tendency to kamikaze into you, just to raise the frustration factor). In addition, all bosses must be scanned during the fight -- youfight—you won't get the chance again. That said, the Hard level allows some missable enemies to be found in other places other than their original rooms (from which they vanish after a certain point).

** ''[[Metroid Prime]] 2: Echoes'' continues this dubious tradition. A particularly nasty scan is the special door lock that appears during only one fight; you have to take your attention off the enemy to even notice it. One boss has five separate scans. Even Samus's ship is a missable scan -- thescan—the scan data changes as repairs progress.

* There are five audio diaries in ''[[BioshockBioShock (series)|BioShock ]]'' in two areas that you cannot backtrack to.

** Considering you can't backtrack between levels at all in ''[[BioshockBioShock (series)]] 2'', any audio diaries you haven't collected when you advance to the next level become this.

* In ''[[Quake]]'', it's a given that you can't backtrack to previous levels. However, maps E4M4 and E4M5 have a message saying you forgot something important if you didn't pickup a certain weapon on that level. This would imply that it would be lost forever, but the following levels contains the weapons you skipped past. To trigger those message, you're likely going out of your way to skip them.

* ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' gave users the ability to permanently delete unlocked weapons. For a brief period, players were panicking over the prospects of not being able to re-unlock these weapons, because they were tied to achievements whose records were stored on Valve's servers--inservers—in other words, those achievements could not be manually cleared. Then Valve introduced their new [[Randomly Drops]] system of attaining unlockables, and not only could players breathe easily, but suddenly being able to delete duplicate items became VERY important.

*** The Gibus has become a weird moving-target example of this; it can still be obtained in its basic form at any time by dominating a player who's wearing it, but each Halloween, the existing Gibuses get "upgraded" in name and appearance. Currently there are 3 levels of Gibus: Ghastly (1), Ghastlier (2), and the highly confusing "Ghastlierest" (3). Newborn Gibuses start at the first level and will reach the third level two Halloweens later, but by then the level 3 ones will be level 5; the highest-level Gibuses, whatever they are currently called, will always be [[Lost Forever]].

* In ''[[Call of Cthulhu (tabletop game)|Call of Cthulhu]]: [[Dark Corners of the Earth]]'', the refinery contains a sniper rifle, but it's hidden behind a door in an office you pass through. If you do not close the door behind yourself and take the rifle when you first enter the room, it will be [[Lost Forever]], as you cannot return to the office once you leave it. What's worse, getting this rifle is necessary for a [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]]... which is the only way to see the proper ending and make sense of the plot.

=== [[Hack and Slash]] ===

** In the majority of [[Hack and Slash]] games with a [[Random Number God]], '''any''' piece of gear with a specific combination of stats can be considered [[Lost Forever]] if the player fails to notice it while sifting through [[Vendor Trash]] or accidentally gets rid of it, due to the chances of the same stat rolls lining up being less than one-in-a-million. Wonder why hacking is so attractive in online play?

=== [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPGs]] ===

* Many [[Free to Play]] [[MMORPGMassively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPGsMMORPG]]s give exclusive items to participants in each of the game's beta stages [[Perpetual Beta|(pre-release beta stages, that is, usually Closed, Open and/or Invitation Only stages)]] to honor their participation and as a partial compensation for the necessity of wiping their hard-built characters before opening day. Those joining after the official release naturally can't ever obtain them unless the service provider distributes them for new channel or expansion betas.

** ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]'''s [[Game Master|Game Masters]]s will generally restore ''one'' item you accidentally lose. Needless to say, this ability is [[Too Awesome to Use]] for most people.

* The Gold Magnate ship in MMORPG ''[[EveEVE Online]]'' is an extreme case. Only one such ship was given out as an event prize. It was eventually destroyed in [[PvP]] combat, making it well and truly Lost Forever.

** While the Gold Magnate is the only ''unique'' ship in ''[[EveEVE Online]]'', there are a number of other ships produced in such limited numbers that they are close to being [[Lost Forever]]. The Silver Magnates, the Guardian-Vexors and the ultra-faction battleships are not in production and are therefore ultra-rare collectors items, several of which have fallen into the hands of a certain famous collector. Pirates in EVE leap at the chance to destroy anything unique.

* ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' has a variation of this: Some specific quest rewards are items that you can only get this one way. Use it or sell it, and it's [[Lost Forever]] for that character. And some of these quests are only available to one faction... Of course, those limitations also make them [[Too Awesome to Use]].

*** And the next expansion did it again, relocating and retuning an old dungeon.. sans one [[Infinity+1 Sword|Infinity Plus One Staff]]. Also, many mounts and titles are [[Lost Forever]] if you weren't playing the game during a specific timeframe. If you started playing just recently.. sucks to be you.

** It's also notable that they give consolation prizes constantly to the most dedicated completists, if only because they frequently give away special items to extremely helpful players or members of the dev team as well. Two such members dismantled their Completist status by DESTROYING their unique items to find out what they became, as the prize for doing so to ultra-rares is an Ultimate Wad, an instant level up. They became useless powders instead. Furthermore, when a third player who currently had the pulverize ability was awarded a special unique reward item (for being the first to pulverize an ultra-rare), they lampshaded and averted this by making said item pulverize...right back into its original state. Yes, that's right, the urge to break things actually wins out over [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]] in this game a lot of the time, even with Completists, meaning numerous gift items shall never return, unless the admins wish it so. Also some trophies are awarded on a lark, such as the infamous 2006 pantsless trophy. If you had pants on at rollover on New Year's, you didn't get it. Furthermore, if you weren't watching the in-game chat at the time, you had no forewarning.

*** Most [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]] service providers will conduct massive wipe-a-thons and server rollbacks when they confirm that a wave of duping has occurred. Items that were unique or virtually impossible to get before the dupes will naturally fall under this trope afterwards. Occasionally any in-game items that were used to trigger the duping will be removed outright rather than being fixed.

* [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]] ''[[Mabinogi (video game)|Mabinogi]]'' has many of these associated with limited-time events. Not really important, since the vast majority of these items are purely cosmetic, none of them are [[Game Breaker|Game Breakers]]s or even particularly high-powered, and most of them [[Breakable Weapons|don't last very long anyway]].

** Special titles are available to players who "break the seal" on newly-released zones and dungeons by matching a particular set of conditions. Since each seal can only be broken once per server, they are unique, and unavailable to other players once the seal is broken. If the player character is deleted (by the player, or by the [[Game Master|Game Masters]]s for rules violations), the seal remains broken, and the title is lost forever.

* In ''[[RunescapeRuneScape]]'', certain emotes and items can only be unlocked during special events. Emotes and songs can be unlocked when the event occurs next year. The items, however, are gone for good.

=== [[Platform Game]] ===

* In ''[[Mega Man X]] 6'', Zero is [[Lost Forever]] (well... until X7, anyways) if X doesn't fight Nightmare Zero before exposing Gate.

** In the various stages, there are Reploids for you to save. If a Nightmare Virus gets to them first, they're [[Lost Forever]]... and some of them give you useful things.

** In ''[[Mega Man Zero]] 2'' and ''3'', collecting EX Skills requires maintaining an "A" rank or higher on almost every mission. Each EX Skill is specific to a boss, so you get precisely one chance to get each one per playthrough. And using Cyber-Elves gets points deducted from your score on every mission afterwards, ''even into a [[New Game+]]'', so using too many Cyber-Elves makes A-ranking impossible and thus renders all unobtained EX Skills truly [[Lost Forever]]. True, there are Cyber-Elves that got you a temporary A-rank, but there aren't enough of those to get you every EX Skill.

* A glitch in the first few copies of ''[[Spyro the Dragon]]: Year of the Dragon'' makes the second egg for the first world's speedway level [[Lost Forever]] if you leave the level the first time you visit it without winning the event for it; afterwards, even if you ''do'' win the event, you won't get credited with the egg.

* By definition, any game with a [[Point of No Return]] is going to have some items end up being [[Lost Forever]], but ''[[Psychonauts]]'' is especially irritating. Once you {{spoiler|defeat Coach Oleander's psychic tank and end up in the [[Circus of Fear|Meat Circus]]}}, you can't return to the camp or Cruller's lab. You can still collect anything left in the mental worlds and redeem stuff in the final level, but if you missed any Psi-Cards, Scavenger Hunt items, or other collectibles found in the real world, too bad! You're prevented from getting to [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion|Rank 100]] and getting the [[Multiple Endings|secret ending movie]].

** You also face this problem in Basic Braining. If you don't complete all six rounds of the punch game the first time you meet the level the game will disappear and you'll never get that PSI Cadet Rank, which makes it impossible to make the [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]].

** All Sands ot Time trilogy games contain missable life upgrades; however, you're only penalized with a different kind of ending in ''Warrior Within'' for missing any. The upgrades have no bearing on the plot of the preceding ''Sands of time'', nor in the third instalment, ''The Two Thrones''. This last game also packs missable Sand Credits. Miss enough and you won't be able to pay for all the unlockable artwork. Not a big deal, unless you're after [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]].

* In ''[[Iji]]'', if you miss one ribbon, the following ones will disappear. But the sector 7 ribbon fits the trope more: After the ship, there is a teleporter accessible by using the Nuke weapon's recoil. It's actually a shortcut, and using it causes the sector's ribbon to be [[Lost Forever]].

* Due to [[Real Life]] getting in the way, World ''e'' in the GBA ''[[Super Mario Bros 3]]'', IN AMERICA! Due to the e-Reader being discontinued before the release of all the cards, only 10 of the World-e levels can be accessed, and only then if you can find the appropriate cards (tough enough as it is). [http://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Advance_4_e-Cards The Super Mario Wiki] has details. <ref>This would be a great release for the [[D Si]] shop; a mini Super Mario 3 that consists of all the World e levels!</ref>

* In ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'', you get save file stars for accomplishing certain tasks. If you never make the Super Guide box appear, the stars will sparkle. However, if the Super Guide box appears on any level, ''even if you don't use it'', you can never make the stars sparkle on that save file. This is also a rare example of a retroactive Lost Forever, because you ''can'' lose the sparkling stars, even if you already have them, if you trigger the box.

=== [[Puzzle Game]] ===

=== [[Real Time Strategy]] ===

* [[Enemy Exchange Program|Salvaging]] in ''[[Homeworld]]'' is [[Game Breaker|tremendously powerful]] because it allows you to exceed the arbitrary build limits for your fleet. For example, you can build only four heavy cruisers, so any that you fail to capture in the missions they appear are [[Lost Forever]]. Due to [[Cosmetically Different Sides]], heavy cruisers are arguably not a true example because you only miss out on ''extras''. A purer example occurs with the Gardens of Kadesh missions, where the enemy units are unique. [[Beam Spam|Multi-Beam Frigates]] pack a meaner punch and a [[Everything's Better with Spinning|much cooler attack]] than your ion beam frigates. You can nab at least 18 of them, which in a wall formation will make short work of any ship.

=== [[Rhythm Game]] ===

=== [[Roguelike]] ===

* In [[RoguelikesRoguelike]]s (''[[Angband]]'', for example), items are usually unidentified when you first find them, and they can always be generated again later. This includes unique "artifact" items, but only if you ''don't identify them'', since artifacts are only generated once ''per game''. If you ID an item and it turns out to be an artifact, it is [[Lost Forever]] when you leave the level and you're not carrying it.

** ''[[TOME]]'' has a few dungeons with special named levels, which are different in that they aren't randomly generated, and thus the same in every game. They also have the same unique monsters and artifacts in every game. They ''also'' disappear if you leave (for example via the down staircase) and if you attempt to go back to it, you'll just get a randomly generated level instead. So, you only get one shot at grabbing those artifacts (whether found on the floor or dropped from a unique) before leaving the level, or they're [[Lost Forever]]. Make sure to have some free inventory space when you get there.

=== [[Role -Playing Game]] ===

** In the PSP version, there's an Amano art gallery you can unlock as you play through that requires, among other things, 100% bestiary completion. Unfortunately for you, partway through the game all encounters on the overworld become harder--[[Guide Dang It|with absolutely no warning beforehand, incidentally]]--meaning—meaning that if you failed to hunt down and kill those monsters before breaking the seal on Ultima...well, sucks to be you.

** Similarly, if you want more than one character to learn Osmose, you're going to have to grind either the Coliseum, Fynn Castle, the Cyclone, or Castle Palamecia while they're available--thoseavailable—those are the only places to find Wizards, a rare (and in early areas, horrifyingly fast and powerful) random encounter that will even more rarely drop the tome needed to learn Osmose, and once you complete them, you can't go back. As wise use of Osmose can make characters effectively immortal, you have good incentive to do this. Have fun grinding!

* ''[[Final Fantasy V]]'' has quite a number of these, {{spoiler|especially since you'll be switching worlds, and some areas are thus [[Lost Forever]]}}. Although some spells can be bought at the Phantom Village, summons like Shiva are just some of the things that can be [[Lost Forever]].

** One of the characters in your party, the moogle Mog, can dance to change the terrain and cause various other effects in battle. At one point in the game (in the World of Balance section, before {{spoiler|Kefka tears the world apart}}), you have the choice to save Mog from falling off a cliff, causing him to join your party at that time, or getting an accessory that will halve the MP cost of spells. If you choose not to get Mog at that time, you can still get him to join again later in the game. However, one of his dances, the Water Rondo, can only be obtained when he's fighting in water. Since there is no area where you fight in water in the World of Ruin, if you choose to get the accessory, Mog's Water Rondo will be [[Lost Forever]].

*** The Game Boy Advance remake adds a fight against Leviathan in the World of Ruin, which takes place on a watery background, giving you ''one more chance'' to get the Water Harmony (as it's re-named), but after defeating Leviathan, the dance is, again, [[Lost Forever]].

*** However, Strago's ultimate Lore is an exception -- evenexception—even though the boss who has it is supposedly unique, when you come back it will respawn so you can fight it again if he didn't learn its ultimate attack.

* In ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'', the Wutai [[Sidequest]] must be started before disc three, as it suddenly becomes inaccessible after disc two [[Guide Dang It|due to a sudden plot development]]. Many types of materia, including Ifrit, Ramuh, W-Item, Phoenix, and Neo Bahamut, are one-shots (it might be possible to dig up some or all of these materia at Bone Village). You only have one chance to acquire Barret's [[Infinity+1 Sword|ultimate weapon]], and it doesn't appear unless [[Guide Dang It|he is in your party at the time]]. All items located at Shinra Headquaters, including Cait Sith's [[Infinity+1 Sword|ultimate weapon]], are missable because you only get to visit there twice. These are just a few examples, in fact the game is so rife with [[Lost Forever|Lost Forevers]] that there is a guide on [[Game FAQsGameFAQs]] with the sole purpose of listing them all.

** This game has more [[Lost Forever]] stuff than most of the rest of ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' combined, and that's saying something. Anyone who wants to get all of the little flavor awards has to completely re-explore each city at every plot point, including so many [[Guide Dang It]] moments that the official guide doesn't cover them all, instead referring to a website accompaniment that no longer exists.

* ''[[Final Fantasy X 2|Final Fantasy X-2]]'' ups the ante and features numerous examples of one-time [[Guide Dang It]] [[Lost Forever|Lost Forevers]] - especially completion percentage points, which can be [[Lost Forever]] if you ''ever use the scene skip feature during a plot scene''. All the more frustrating, they are required in order to achieve [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion|100% completion]], which has a reward beyond [[Bragging Rights Reward|bragging rights]].

* In ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'', finding and using multicolored marks called Trinities was one of the requirements for [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]]. In [[The Nightmare Before Christmas|Halloween Town]], a Red Trinity can be found in the base of Oogie's Manor, and you must use that Trinity before fighting Oogie Boogie for the first time. After you beat Oogie, he ''merges with his manor'', and beating him makes him collapse to the ground, thus rendering the Trinity Lost Forever. Another catch is that to use the Trinities, you ''have'' to have Donald and Goofy in your party for them to work. Many players who couldn't be bothered to switch Jack Skellington out of their party at the [[Save Point]] at the top of the manor and backtrack to the Trinity with Donald and Goofy ended up tearing their hair out in frustration.

* While very hard, it's possible to make any and all digimon become [[Lost Forever]] in ''[[Digimon World 3]]'' or the PAL release ''Digimon World 2003''. Digimon have a "requirement" to be met before you can actually recruit them, the requirement is always a minimum and maximum level. In short, if ALL of your current digimon are above that level you just can't get that other digimon.

* In ''[[Dragon Quest VIII]]'', the items in the town of Neos are [[Lost Forever]] after a certain major plot event occurs. The game also doesn't prevent you from selling items with finite availability. Shopkeepers are nice enough to warn you when something you're about to sell is one-of-a-kind, but they usually fail to warn you against selling items that are relatively common, but have limited availability (Rare Drops, Casino wins). Such items are often required to [[Item Crafting|craft]] the best weapons in the game. Of course, there's seldom if ever [[Guide Dang It|any indication of this in-game]]. Therefore, most knowledgeable players follow this mantra: don't sell anything that can be used in the Pot, since it'll show you which items you can and can't use in Alchemy.

* ''[[Eternal Sonata]]'' has an old lady that can be spoken to in Chapter 4. Doing so will allow you to access a Score Piece later on. However, if you don't speak to her in Chapter 4, she will be sleeping for the rest of the game, making that particular Score Piece [[Lost Forever]].

*** This [[Lost Forever]] is why it's considered completely acceptable to use cheating devices in order to obtain certain Pokémon.

** ''[[Pokémon]]'' has occasionally done this with other things. In the Gen. I Red/Blue versions (and the FireRed/LeafGreen remakes), once you speak to the captain of the S.S. Anne, it leaves port and never returns, so you can't fight any of the trainers there or obtain any of the items. In the original Gen. III games (Ruby/Sapphire), Team Magma/Aqua's base was permanently sealed off after a certain point, so if you didn't already get the Master Ball, it was [[Lost Forever]]. (''Emerald'' changed this.)

* ''[[Dark Cloud]] 2'' has you [[First-Person Snapshooter|taking pictures]] of various enemies and items, many of which are [[Lost Forever]], including one-shot bosses.

** In addition, a glitch in Chapter 3 can cause chests that contain Fruits of Eden, a valuable item that [[Rare Candy|increases your characters' maximum HP]], to be [[Lost Forever]]. One set of chests will disappear if you fail to open them immediately after they appear; if you open another (specific) chest before a later chapter, a chest that should appear in that later chapter will never appear at all. Thankfully, the rest of the chests in the game appear to be free of glitches.

** A way to get around the [[Lost Forever]] photographs without sacrificing progress is to keep a second save file not too far past your current one: if you realize too late that you've saved over a [[Lost Forever]] and are reluctant to repeat a difficult boss or level, you can use the other file to snap that shot, save it to the Album, and retrieve the same photograph using the latest save file. The only thing lost will be the Photography Score points.

** Those looking to achieve [[One Hundred Percent Completion]] also need to use a Magic Lens once on each and every type of enemy in the game to complete the Monster List and get a reward. This includes bosses, whose Monster List entries are [[Lost Forever]] if you don't use a Magic Lens on them before you beat them. However, the Monster List can be carried over to a new playthrough in the [[New Game+]] feature, allowing for another chance.

* Another ''[[Tales (series)]]'' example, ''[[Tales of Vesperia]]'' is especially bad about this. Most sidequests (and the items, outfits and ''cities'' unlocked by completing them) have a very specific time frame in which you can complete them. Once that time's up, it's [[Lost Forever]]. And it doesn't help that there's usually absolutely no indication that a sidequest is even there. So, there are two strategies: Talk to everyone in the town you're in before moving on and hope you'll stumble across something, or just [[Guide Dang It|buy the strategy guide.]] It wouldn't be so bad if ''every single sidequest in the game was missable''.

** Another fun example: the first two steps of a subquest that awards Judith's second-best weapon starts hours before you've even met her. Both steps involve immediately retracing your steps after you've been implictedly told to move forward, and ''must'' be done before entering Capua Nor. <ref>Step 1) After Rita joins your party the second time, go back into her hut and examine the tiny blastia in a corner of her room. Step 2) Immediately after completing and leaving Ehmead Hill (to the overworld), go back in and go straight back down the path so Rita can examine the broken barrier blastia. If you try examining the blastia ''before'' leaving Ehmead Hill, you won't get the correct cutscene.</ref>

* In yet another ''[[Tales (series)]]'' example, ''[[Tales of the Abyss]]'' is prone to a great deal of [[Sequence Breaking]] that will render many skits, titles, costumes, items, weapons and sidequests utterly [[Lost Forever]]. Events need to be triggered during a very small window and chained with secondary and tertiary events that happen well into the game. Miss one step or take the wrong one and it's goodbye [[Infinity+1 Sword]]. This is particularly frustrating because 1) events are activated and deactivated seemingly at random, [[Guide Dang It|providing no heads-up whatsoever]] as to their importance, and 2) you're stuck for the most part in a linear quest that allows for very little roaming.

* The king of this trope, however, is likely the first ''[[Baten Kaitos]]'' game. As if getting [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]] wasn't hard enough (there are 1,000 distinct items to collect), many of the items are one-shots, and some can only be acquired by letting other items age, in real time, over days or weeks, and you have to [[First-Person Snapshooter|take a picture]] of every single enemy in the game, including one-shot bosses.

* Perhaps because Eternal Wings was so horrible with this trope, ''[[Baten Kaitos]] Origins'' seemingly goes out of its way to avert it...though it isn't perfect. The "Tub-Time Greythorne" and "Warm Cheers" magnus (and by extension "Icy Jeers" which it ages into, and also by extension the sidequest that uses it) are missable after a certain plot event that occurs very late in the game. There are also four enemies that can be missed for your enemy list; one is the Ballet Dancer, the only random encounter in a one-time area that doesn't show up later in the Coliseum, but the really nasty ones are {{spoiler|Valara, Nasca, and Heughes}} - the player is offered an option for whether to fight them. Saying "no" robs you of a perfect enemy list, saying "yes" robs you of the best ending. Thankfully, the player's magnus and enemy listings can be carried over to a [[New Game+]], so even these things aren't ''strictly'' [[Lost Forever]], and considering that there are only around 650 magnus to collect and about 130 enemies, it certainly did a better job than its predecessor.

** Another big one in ''Star Ocean: The Second Story'' is the Sharp Edge. It's a rather weak weapon for Claude that you can only get if you take second place in the fighting tournament, then speak to a specific NPC. Oh, wait, after the tournament was over, you left town BEFORE you spoke to that NPC? Guess what, the sword's [[Lost Forever]]. And did you know that Claude can customize it a few times and end up creating his [[Infinity+1 Sword]]? Guess you shouldn't have forgotten to get it!

* ''[[The Elder Scrolls IV|The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion]]'' made great effort to keep any quest from being Lost Forever, through completing other quests -- althoughquests—although this does cause some confusion, such as a thieves' guild quest where you steal from the Archmage. No big oddity there, until you realize that {{spoiler|at this point, a decent number of player characters already ''are'' the Archmage}}.

** And while it's pretty good at not having quests [[Lost Forever]], it's not good at all with items. Specifically, one of the guild merchants sells a bunch of rare items. He's the only person in the game you can get these items from. You have to kill him for a quest. He also sells a bunch of rare spells, but you can get those again once you're done with the quest line.

*** There's another guild merchant with a unique spell that only ''he'' sells. And he's killed as part of a quest. If you didn't buy the spell from him before he dies, it really is [[Lost Forever]] - no other spell in the game has that type of effect!

** Trope invoked in another offshoot Daedric prince quest where, in a realized case of having one's cake or eating it, [[Consummate Liar|Clavicus Vile]] offers to give you his amazing [[Vendor Trash|Masque of Clavicus Vile]] -- headgear—headgear that increases social prowess (very) slightly -- inslightly—in exchange for the Umbra Sword, one of the game's (two?) optional [[Infinity+1 Sword|Infinity Plus One Swords]], which you must retrieve from a woman (named [[Generation Xerox|Umbra]]) whom is under the direct influence of the sword's former wielder... Umbra (a difficult fight, unless you're a [[The Archmage|powerful Mage]]). Incidentally, Clavicus Vile gives you an artifact (actually, it just sort of appears in your inventory), styled after his faithful, demonic companion, [[Living Lie Detector|that advises you to abscond with the sword]], both because he's clearly ripping you off, and because the sword may tip the [[Story-Breaker Power|overall greater balance of power]] (in both Oblivion and the Aedric Realms) in his favor, which would naturally result in a war that would [[The End of the World as We Know It|destroy the world]]. In combination with Azura's Star, it is unarguably one of the most useful items ingame, as the sword -- insword—in addition to high attack power -- ispower—is enchanted with a potent [[Your Soul Is Mine|60-second Soul Trap]] that will trap the soul of anything previously struck by the sword itself that is either felled or dies. Taking the sword effectively leaves the quest open indefinitely, and the demon-dog-statue-thing will remain in your inventory and can't be removed. Arbitrarily, if the player chooses to take the Masque, the sword is, of course, [[Tears of Remorse|Lost Forever]]. This quest [[You Can't Fight Fate|entirely subverts]] the concept of absolute, [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]] for the entire game.

* ''[[The Elder Scrolls]] [[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim|V: Skyrim]]''

* In ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]'', most locations and related sidequests become inaccessible in Act III; even the titular city of Neverwinter effectively shrinks from three districts to one. Some [[NPC|NPCs]]s, however, are relocated to different areas, mostly plot-critical ones.

* In ''[[EarthboundEarthBound]]'', an enemy in the Stonehenge base [[Randomly Drops]] a character's [[Infinity+1 Sword]] (and his only weapon, actually). When the base boss is defeated, all enemies in the base disappear and the sword is [[Lost Forever]].

* ''[[Star Wars]]: [[Knights of the Old Republic (video game)|Knights of the Old Republic]]'' contains a fairly egregious example: as you progress through the game, {{spoiler|two visitable planets/cities are destroyed by the Sith}} with [[Guide Dang It|little to no forewarning]], and all items and sidequests therein are rendered [[Lost Forever]].

* Averted in ''[[Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]''. The game records every time you "tattle" on an enemy (a turn-costing move that lets you see its HP and other characteristics). As some enemies (most notably bosses, but there are others) can't be fought after a certain point, this would normally be a [[Lost Forever]] if you didn't tattle on them... except getting those that are [[Lost Forever]] is as simple as checking a particular trash can in the [[Hub Level]] / [[First Town]].

** Also played straight in the first game. There are a few Badges found in Peach's Castle. You can either collect these with Mario at the very end of the game, or nab them with Peach during her mid-chapter segments and place them in a treasure chest so that Mario can obtain them at a different location. However, if Peach grabs these Badges, but doesn't place them in the chest by the time her Chapter 6 segment is over, they are, of course, [[Lost Forever]].

** It's played straight with a few items in the Palace Of Shadow. If you defeat Gloomtail and then set off the next event without going behind him and blowing open the crack in the wall, the stuff in that secret chamber will be inaccessible due to the floor to his room dropping way to low to reach the door. Thankfully the only items that can be [[Lost Forever]] this way are an Ultra Shroom and Jammin' Jelly, which are generic albeit powerful healing items that are infinitely purchaseable from a store for an expensive price. Your inventory is also likely filled with many of both items or their superior combined form, anyway, so it isn't a huge loss even utilitarianly, in addition to completionary.

* In ''[[Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga|Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', the Piranha Bean and Piranha Suit are mutually exclusive, making it impossible to get all of the equipment in the game.

* In ''[[Mega Man Battle Network|Rockman.EXE Transmission / Megaman Network Transmission]]'', if you didn't get the golden Mystery Data from the data graveyard before defeating Zero, the Zero chip is [[Lost Forever]].

* This happens in ''[[Chrono Cross]]'', too. There's many a time when making a choice that enables you to get one character will result in you losing another: for example, opting not to save Kid at Guldove will let you recruit Glenn, but any chance of recruiting Razzly is -- youis—you guessed it -- lostit—lost forever. There's a New Game + option that seemingly makes up for this, but it only becomes available about halfway through the game.

** It's VERY easy for Razzly's Level 7 ability to be [[Lost Forever]] too. Fight an adjacent boss with her in the party? Fail to witness tragedy? Good bye Raz-Flower. And the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IviX4H9Mug most powerful combo attack] (Infinity plus one spell?) in the game.

** This gets fixed in the expansion pack, as you can revisit the (rebuilt) Guild after the attack. Later in the game, you may encounter a demon door that demands all your keys to open, which would make all the contents of the chests you haven't opened yet [[Lost Forever]]... but you're given ample warning, and it's optional.

** The game also features {{spoiler|[[Crossover]] [[Easter Egg|Easter Eggs]]s in which [[The Legend of Zelda|Link]] and [[Metroid Prime|Samus]] can be found sleeping in two out-of-the-way beds through out the game. However, Samus can only be found at certain points during the storyline (Samus even notes she's resting so she can fight Mother Brain), and afterwards she's gone. However, Link appears in Rose Town's inn after the town is saved and stays there for the rest of the game.}}

** The {{spoiler|Feros colony}} also offers several sidequests which can be [[Lost Forever]] if the hero ends up killing the characters associated with them - [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|nice job, Shepard.]]

* Obscure Game Boy Color RPG ''[[Lil' Monster]]'' has the Dowser and Dragonscale ability gems, and their associated monsters, Gyro and Argon. These two monsters are fought as bosses. However, the bosses will only appear once, and if you lose to them, they'll vanish. You'll never be able to get their ability gems. Frustratingly, missing Gyro/Dowser ''also'' means you miss the [[Disc One Nuke]], Minhand, which doubles your attack power, as the monster that holds that particular gem only appears when you use the Dowser gem to summon a monster to fight.

* Thankfully averted in ''[[Wild ArmsARMs 3]]'', where a [[Bonus Boss]] needs to have every chest in the world open to fight him. Luckily, no chests were placed in any one-time dungeons. Unfortunately for ''[[Wild ArmsARMs 4]]'', which has the same boss, that's not the case.

** In ''[[Wild ArmsARMs 2]]'', Marivel is needed to find the Fab Science Lab, while inside, you battle {{spoiler|Bulkogidon}} and afterwards, you'll see an hourglass-esque object appear, {{spoiler|it has Lucifer and Lucifer 2 inside}}, you'll have to switch to Marivel and check it to get it, people are known to exit the dungeon without doing this and so the hourglass vanishs preventing you from a 100% game.

* In ''[[Sword of Mana]]'', several [[Lost Forever|Lost Forevers]] include an item only acquired with certain skill sets, characters who when killed while holding your gear, or just leaving you to return later loseing your items (bad if the above skill item) and not going back after most sections of the game, remedied after Dark Lord's castle, but then getting a lost forever on all quests and new items after entering Dime Tower.

* ''[[Golden Sun: Dark Dawn]]'' has this with permanently missable djinn and summons, the former having an incredible ''35'' potential missable spread over three different points of no return, out of 72 total djinn. Particularly irritating in that some of these djinn and summons have ''very'' small windows of opportunity to get them, and there wasn't anything like this in the first two games. The Ninja Sandals equipment is also lost forever [[Guide Dang It|if you don't talk to a certain NPC the first time you're in Kaocho.]] Additionally, some Encyclopedia terms can be lost forever [[Guide Dang It|if you don't talk to random NPCs in the Morgal region,]] frustrating those who consider filling it out as part of [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]]. Even more irritating, oftentimes those terms WILL appear in other characters' dialogue, but they're not highlighted in red, so it doesn't count.

* There aren't a lot of these in ''[[Opoona]]''-- the—the biggest ones are a pair of artwork in the Artiela Museum (if you don't view them right when they appear, you won't be able to add them to your Artbook), and the friendship of Ine. First, you've got to make sure you can [[It Makes Sense in Context|play the ukelele]] by a certain point in the game, or else you'll miss friendship with her. Secondly, ''another'' character will give you an item that you can [[Vendor Trash|sell for lots of money]], but you have to give it to her to both cement her as a friend ''and'' to get an item that's necessary later on for increasing the friendship of ''another'' one of your friends.

* In [[Arcanum: ofOf Steamworks and Magick Obscura|Arcanum]] you get a very limited window of opportunity to recruit the Dog into your party, who is one of the strongest melee combatants in the game, needs no items, wields no weapons and thus suffers no durability damage, no matter what he attacks. The recruitment window is limited because as soon as you arrive in Ashbury the Dog's introductory event begins. Unfortunately, that event involves a halfling kicking the Dog while it's down and there is nothing to stop the Dog from dying this way. If you don't immediately run over to the halfling after arriving at the town and chase him away, the dog will die and you will never get another chance at recruiting him. It is virtually impossible to know this on your first playthrough without consulting a guide of some sort, leaving it entirely up to luck, wether you by chance go in the right direction to encounter the halfling in time to save the Dog or not.

** Another significant thing that can easily be [[Lost Forever]] are Lava Rocks. There are very few of these items in the game(three or so), all of them found in the Wheel Clan caverns. There is no obvious significance to these items so it is likely that a player will simply sell them after picking them up. Considering that the item stock of most vendors is on rotation this will lead to the Lava Rocks being destroyed once the vendor's stock changes. However, these rocks are the only things that a certain dwarven god accepts as offerings, and without his blessing it is impossible to complete the chain of blessings necessary to gain access to Velorien's blessing of ultimate power, which in and of itself is an unlikely feat without the use of [[Guide Dang It]].

=== [[Simulation Game]] ===

* In ''[[Freelancer]]'', there is a very good ship called the Anubis that you have exactly four opportunities to obtain: if you don't get it (which is frankly rather silly, as it's dirt cheap) within those four chances, or sell it afterwards, it's [[Lost Forever]].

=== [[Stealth Based Game]] ===

** There ''are'' still some items that can be [[Lost Forever]], particularly optional items, if they are not picked up as soon as they are available. Examples include the torch from ''MGS3'' (find in the cave before The Pain boss battle or never again) and AKS-74u silencer in MGS2. Neither are overly necessary and both actually require more effort than just leaving them, but for 100% completion...

** In ''Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions'', if the player completes all the training missions, the game will show a concept artwork of Metal Gear RAY from the then-upcoming ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]''. However, there's no way to view picture again once the data has been saved.

=== [[Survival Horror]] ===

* In ''[[Silent Hill]]'', there are many [[Point of No Return|points of no return]] that can render items and weapons missable, for example, during the fight with the Twinfeeler (caterpillar, which later becomes a moth) boss, there is a rifle (may be required for the [[Final Boss]]) in one of the corners of the fighting arena. If you didn't happen to notice it and pick it up, it will never be available again. Similarly, there is a sledgehammer in the Nightmare Hospital boiler room, which will be [[Lost Forever]] once you go back to the "normal" world. And God help you if you passed a [[Point of No Return]] without enough ammo or health to fight the upcoming boss.

* In ''[[Resident Evil]]: [[Resident Evil Code: Veronica|Code Veronica]]'' there's a section of the building that is {{spoiler|initially}} only accessible through a functioning metal detector gate which essentially puts the area on lockdown if you don't get rid of any metal items from your inventory. Fortunately there's a sort of baggage check compartment built in. This container is ''not'' connected to the other chests throughout the game. Remember to take everything out when you're done with that part, because "leaving town" doesn't begin to cover it. Of [[Guide Dang It|surprising significance]]: {{spoiler|an empty fire extinguisher}}.

** ''[[Resident Evil Outbreak]]'' had an online mode hosted on Capcom servers. Because the game was a commercial flop, Capcom closed the servers and much of the game's features are [[Lost Forever]].

* ''[[Eternal Darkness]]'' had runes et cetera that would not be necessary in one level, but would be needed in another, the [[Lost Forever]] rune made the game [[Unwinnable]]. Most notably, the game has three different colors of magick - red, green and blue, which beat each other in a [[Rock-Paper-Scissors]] cycle. There actually is a purple magick color, the rune of which can very easily be [[Lost Forever]], and any purple magick defeats any other color.

=== [[Turn-Based Strategy]] ===

* In ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics Advance]]'' the morpher class requires captured monsters to learn skills from. The goblin and thunder drake monsters become [[Lost Forever]] if not captured early on as they only appear in non-random storyline missions and so become "extinct" after those missions are completed.

* One of the most insidious [[Lost Forever]] items is the Snakish sword in ''[[Phantom Brave]]''. It can only be accessed once: during the tutorial. And, thanks to the game system, you can't just pick it up and leave with it. You have to confine a spirit to it and wait until the spirit is removed from the board, and even then you're not guaranteed to get it. There is a more sure-fire way to get it, but it's by getting a hidden character, and the opportunity to get that character is all but impossible after that section, making ''that'' a [[Lost Forever]] too.

* In every game of the ''[[Suikoden]]'' series, while most of the [[108]] recruitable characters either join automatically over the course of the story or can be recruited at any time, some have limited windows of opportunity, after which they're [[Lost Forever]]. Since recruiting all of them is required to get the [[Multiple Endings|best ending]], and on top of that these characters tend to be very ''easy'' to miss, the result is the definition of a [[Guide Dang It]] situation.

* In ''[[Advance Wars]] 2'' and ''Advance Wars Dual Strike'', certain levels have cities that, when captured, unlock a bonus mission. If you clear said certain levels without capturing said certain cities, the bonus mission - and the prize for completing it - is [[Lost Forever]]...until your next playthrough at least. While the game hints at which levels have these cities, [[Guide Dang It|you don't know which city out of several is the one you need to capture.]] Although...it's up to the player whether or not the prize for completing the bonus missions (The ability to deploy Neotanks) is actually worth the work.

* In ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000|Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War]]'', it is possible to find valuable artifacts or other war-gear on the various scenario maps of the campaign. But if you complete a scenario without first finding all the available wargear (and there are scenarios where, given the limited number of turns you have to finish, you simply will not be able to look everywhere), that artifact or piece of gear is [[Lost Forever]].

=== [[Turn Based Tactics]] ===

* In ''[[Odium]]'', combats and exploration are done on separate maps. Sometimes, combat maps contain a [[Crate Expectations|crate]] with goodies or two. If you do not open and empty a crate before killing all the enemies, everything you failed to grab will be [[Lost Forever]]. (Though there are never any unique items in there.)

=== Visual Novels ===

=== [[Wide Open Sandbox]] ===

* Entire ''missions'' in ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'' (and its ''GTA: London'' expansion packs) are [[Lost Forever]] if you fail them. When the jobs you're offered start getting... [[Nintendo Hard|challenging]] (think assassination attempts on politicians protected by machinegun-wielding bodyguards), let's just say it's a good thing that level completion is tied to your bank account, not storyline missions.

* In ''[[Grand Theft Auto III]],'' it's incredibly difficult to complete the police vehicle missions once you leave Portland {{spoiler|because all the members of the Mafia that recently betrayed the protagonist shoot at your vehicle, usually destroying it in a matter of seconds.}} Since those missions are required for [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]], this screwed many gamers who decided to procrastinate on doing them.

* ''[[No More Heroes]]''. The collectible cards scattered around in each of the ranking matches are [[Lost Forever]] once you finish that level. The first time through is not a problem, since they're just trading cards of fake Mexican wrestlers, but in [[New Game+]], {{spoiler|you lose concept art of the assassin from the current stage, so there's no chance for [[Hundred-Percent100% Completion]]}}. Of course, you could always just start another [[New Game+]].

* In ''[[The Godfather (video game)|The Godfather]]: The Game'' there are [[Thief Bag|Thief Bags]]s with cash in every mission that will disappear after the mission is over. Fortunately, it's just cash, which you can easily earn elsewhere.

** 'The Greatest Generation' really got their hands on a lot of cool loot..

* ThereAs of late 2023, there are 106[https://screenrant.com/doctor-who-missing-episodes-1960s/ 97] [[Missing Episode|missing episodes]] of ''[[Doctor Who]]'', the master copies of which were destroyed to make room in the BBC archives. But don't give up hope -- [https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2023/08/04/missing-episodes-of-doctor-who-are-definitely-out-there-and-will-eventually-be-recovered/ every once in a while one of these is rediscovered]. When this entry was originally written in the 2010s, there were ''106'' missing episodes.

** AndThere are countless other lost TV series and episodes, as seen on [[Keep Circulating the Tapes]].

* In one of the ballsiest moves in the history of modern music (from a band that made their ''entire career'' on being ballsy), anti-establishment electronica duo [[The KLF|KLF]] celebrated their departure from the music industry by deleting their entire back catalogue. If you want to hear their music now, good luck finding old copies of their records on eBay.

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