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* Legion states that {{spoiler|what the True Geth are trying to create is a massive structure like a Dyson Sphere. Go ahead and look one up. Now...what exists in the Mass Effect world that resembles that, has tech the geth are familiar with, and looks really similar? The ''Rayya''(The big round quarian ship Tali used to be a part of).}}
** I don't see the connection, honestly.
*** [[Sci -Fi Writers Have No Sense of Scale|You seem to be suffering from a rather common flaw in thinking.]] The Rayya is, being generous, the size of a small city. A Dyson sphere is a structure that encompasses a ''star'', which is several orders of magnitude larger. I don't care how you slice it, the Rayya is not a Dyson anything.
*** Not even a vacuum? After all, it does travel around picking up other people's rubbish.
 
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* Quite simple, a place like Ilos that was spared during the Reaper invasion. Only this one had adequate power supply to last the whole time. After the events of Feros, Shepard has the mind of a Prothean and can understand them. Plus, what would be cooler than having an ancient alien precursor running around with you [[Mind Screw|mindscrewing]] everyone who sees him?
* {{spoiler|Well, the opposite is true anyway. Indoctrinated Protheans menace you as the Collectors.}}
** {{spoiler|[[I Knew It!|Confirmed with the From Ashes DLC for 3.]]}}
 
== Some Protheans survived. ==
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* Hence the Sovereign's declaration: "We have no beginning. We have no end." At the end of Mass Effect 3 Shepard closes the time loop, throwing the Reapers to the beginning of time, starting the cycle anew.
** Shepard has two choices, to send the Reapers back or to destroy them. The first one [[Bittersweet Ending|makes everyone hate you and you become public enemy #1]]. The second option [[Downer Ending|ends the universe]]. Have fun with that!
** The [[Final Boss]] will be a Reaper [[Stalker With a Crush]] [[Yandere]] [[Blaz Blue|who will merge with Shepard to create a super-monster]] that causes the loop. The only way to beat it properly and get the so-called "actual" ending will be to complete [[Guide Dang It]] quests to get the [[Eleventh -Hour Superpower]]: "Restriction 666 released... Dimensional interruption imaginary number formed... <s>Azure</s>[[Writing Around Trademarks|Sapphire]] Grimoire... Activated!"
** This could just be rhetoric induced by an arrogant god complex. Remember, this is the same being that thought itself so high above these puny organics but got soundly defeated by them.
*** Seems to have been rhetoric. There are certainly no time loops going on.
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** Could be the alternative to working with Cerebus and using {{spoiler|the Collector's stolen tech.}}
** ''Normandy'' MK II in ''Mass Effect 2''? Entertaining. Having a Reaper as your [[Cool Starship]] in ''Mass Effect 3'', possibly as a late game perk? [[Rule of Cool|Oh yeah.]] Suddenly I'm reminded of starting off ''[[Skies of Arcadia (Video Game)|Skies of Arcadia]]'' in the Little Jack {{spoiler|before upgrading to the Delphinus halfway through the game.}}
** I nominate Cthulhu as the good reaper. It tried to communicate with [[HP Lovecraft]] and warn him about the [[Cosmic Horror]] that threatens all life in the galaxy, but poor communication lead Lovecraft to believe Cthulhu was the bad guy. Cthulhu is buried in [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/R%27lyeh :Rchr(27)lyeh|R'lyeh]], and Shepard will go there and awaken him. [[Badass Creed|"That is not dead which can eternal lie]]<ref>The Reapers tried to kill him, but Cthulhu hid and lay on the ocean floor...</ref>, [[Badass Creed|and with strange eons]]<ref>so that when, once in these uncounted millennia, there is someone powerful enough to stop them...</ref>, [[Badass Creed|even death may die]]<ref> he can join forces with them and kill Death incarnate, the Reapers.</ref>".
 
== A certain level of genetic diversity is required to create {{spoiler|new Reapers.}} ==
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== The Reapers are what [[HP Lovecraft]] was trying to warn us about. ==
And there's one buried off the eastern US coast. That's why they look a bit like Cthulhu.
* Alternatively, Cthulhu is actually a good reaper that tried to make humans aware of it's existence, but the fragmentary pieces of information it could provide lead [[HP Lovecraft]] to believe the beast lurking in [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/R%27lyeh :Rchr(27)lyeh|R'lyeh (which is actually to the west of the South American coast)]] was evil. In Mass Effect 3, you will go to R'lyeh and awaken Cthulhu, and team up with this Reaper. This idea is further worked out at the "[[Defector From Decadence]]" entry above.
 
== Indoctrination has a nanotechnological basis. ==
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== The first Reaper was built by Cerberus. ==
* From the first game, we know that Reapers believe that they "have no beginning, [and] have no end". From the second, we know that Cerberus is actively looking to reverse-engineer Reaper technology, that {{spoiler|Reapers need organic parts to function}}, and in the Renegade ending you've {{spoiler|given a Reaper factory over to Cerberus}}. That last one represents a problem for Paragons, except for one thing: Paul Grayson. In the novel ''[[Mass Effect (Franchise)/Retribution|Retribution]]'', set between ''ME2'' and ''ME3'', the Illusive Man implants Reaper technology in a former Cerberus Operative. Ultimately, the project will fail like all Cerberus projects, and Grayson will become a platform for Sovereign or a brand-new Reaper. Grayson will indoctrinate the Cerberus staff, then proceed to do the same to TIM. The Reapers will use Cerberus to construct a Reaper factory and start pumping out new ones. One of the missions in ''ME3'' will have Shepard go to this facility and destroy it, but a single Reaper will manage to escape. This Reaper will do what so many bad guys in ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' have done and inadvertently or on purpose travel through time to the distant past. The Reaper will possess all the knowledge it needs to conquer the galaxy and build more, and will not know if Shepard succeeds in wiping its brethen out. The Reapers ''created themselves''; it's a [[Stable Time Loop]]. Saving {{spoiler|the Collector Base}} just means TIM is faster in building more Reapers and presents a bigger obstacle in the endgame.
** {{spoiler|Paul Grayson dies in that book, after taking a few too many shotgun blasts.}}
 
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The squid-like "ships" we assume are the Reapers are just harvesting tools built by the actual Reapers. They are a cosmic force that's been around forever. Why do they grow galactic civilizations like crops? [[Blue and Orange Morality|It's their job]], and there's an entire higher level of immortal intelligent beings. Shep really did talk to Sovereign/Nazara, but in a way that's more like a phone call than a face-to-face conversation.
 
== The Reapers were made by [[Doctor Who (TV)|Daleks]]. ==
Time-traveling, alternate universe Daleks. Come on, genocidal hatred for all other life? Scary synthesized voice? Freaky beam weapon thingies? DALEKS! All we need now is for a Reaper to go
{{quote| EX-TER-MIN-ATE!}}
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== The Shadow Broker ==
== The Shadow Broker is "[[Ghost in The Shell Stand Alone Complex|The Laughing Man]]" ==
* The {{spoiler|yahg, a weird, never-before-seen alien}} became the Shadow Broker by [[You Kill It, You Bought It|killing the previous Broker]] and [[Legacy Character|taking his place]] - and [[Legacy Immortality|never bothered to tell anyone he did it]]. After Shepard and Liara kill him, ''Liara does the exact same thing''. So who's to say that the Broker who abducted the yahg was '''actually the "original" Broker''' - or that the "original" Broker, whoever he was, '''''even created the [[Cool Ship]] and the [[Magical Database]] that's the source of the Broker's power in the first place?''''' [[Mind Screw]]!
== The original Shadow Broker was [[Knights of the Old Republic|Kreia]] ==
* She walked out in frustration and left the facility to her apprentice after he was unable to understand even the most basic concept of 'we all live in a computer game'.
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