Mighty Glacier: Difference between revisions

Was used a lot in older video games with [[Boss Battle|Bosses]] who could deplete your entire health meter with a couple of blows, and the trick was to jump around / move fast enough to avoid his deadly attacks. Some games back away from the trope later on; the leveled-up Mighty Glacier becomes as fast as other characters or even [[Lightning Bruiser|positively zippy]]. Racing games tend to have a variant where the heavier vehicles have slow acceleration and turning, but once they get moving they can go ''really'' fast. Other games mitigate the Mighty Glacier's slowness by providing support units which can carry it around more quickly than it can move on its own.

The Mighty Glacier is usually male; [[Fighting Game|Fighting Games]]s will commonly make him a [[Husky Russkie]]. [[Mighty Glacier|'''Mighty Glaciers]]''' are most often portrayed as "[[Dumb Muscle]]", but the [[Genius Bruiser]] variant is increasingly common. A greater muscle mass theoretically provides speed but the [['''Mighty Glacier]]''' tends to use the heaviest equipment possible, sacrificing any speed for the pure crushing power that only he can achieve. [[Stout Strength]] may also come into play. They tend to become [[Difficult but Awesome]] in games that favour the relentless pressure strings [[Fragile Speedster|Fragile Speedsters]]s or [[Jacks of All Stats]] can produce.

See also: [[Competitive Balance]], [[PVP-Balanced]], and [[Character Roster Global Warming]], which they are frequent victims of because it appears to be harder to be "creative" with big-and-slow characters. [[Heavily Armored Mook|Heavily Armored Mooks]]s tend to be this when they're not [[Stone Wall|Stone Walls]]s.

{{quote| ''"You fool! The soft cannot cut the hard! No matter how fast you are, you cannot even think to match me in strength and willpower! I will not die!"''}}

* In ''[[Ranma One Half½]]'', [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy|Ryoga]] [[Bromantic Foil|Hibiki]] is this to [[Lightning Bruiser|Ranma Saotome]], being [[Super Strength|incredibly strong]] with [[Does Not Know His Own Strength|little control over it]] and [[Nigh Invulnerable]], but Ranma is capable of dodging his attacks and outmaneuvering him with ease, particularly after studying the Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken. However, against anyone else, Ryoga is more of a [[Lightning Bruiser]], capable of moving with frightening speed himself, so either Ranma Saotome just has greater heights of [[Super Speed]] or Ryoga's rivalry with him has helped him overcome this weakness. Genma Saotome seems to be something of a [[Stout Strength]] variant of the [[Mighty Glacier]], but he's surprisingly quick and agile, even when he's turned into a fat, ugly panda, to the point he can actually challenge his son equally for most of the series (and fell behind only because he kept dodging real fights and leaving them to Ranma, so Ranma outpaced him). Played utterly straight with [[Monster of the Week|Lime]] of the [[Lamarck Was Right|Musk Dynasty]].

* The closest thing ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' has to a [[Mighty Glacier]] would be [[Cute Bruiser]] Vita. She isn't particularly fast by the heroes' standards, and her attacks use a [[Drop the Hammer|really big hammer]] that doesn't swing particularly fast. On the other hand, she deals out immense amounts of damage, takes more punishment than she has any business taking, [[Determinator|and then asks for more.]]

** Arguably a better fit would be Reinforce. Her speed is also middling, but her attack power is among the strongest - whostrongest—who else have you seen throw out {{spoiler|a city-sized Starlight Breaker?}} - and—and unlike [[Squishy Wizard]] Hayate who has some of her power, her defence is also top-notch. Just see {{spoiler|her entry under [[NoWon't Work On SellMe]].}}

* The Akimichi clan in ''[[Naruto]]'' are an entire clan made up of [[Mighty Glacier|Mighty Glaciers]]. They're all pretty big, due to [[Big Eater|eating a lot]] in order to convert calories into chakra, are physically very strong, and can expand their arms, legs, and [[Attack of the 50 -Foot Whatever|entire bodies]]. However, they are also very slow, and as we've seen in [[The Big Guy|Chouji's]] fights, this lack of speed tends to put him at somewhat of a disadvantage.

** [[Fridge Brilliance|Which is why they team up with the Yamanaka and Nara Clans]]. The Nara Clan techniques can immobilize the opponent or the Yamanaka Clan techniques can take over the opponents mind...letting the Akimichi pound away without them dodging. Also...Akimichi is one of Konoha's four Noble Clans, the other three being Aburame, Hyuga, and Uchiha.

{{quote| '''Nightwing''': 'How could anyone so big move that fast?' We've all heard that one, right? Well forget it. This guy is big and sloooww.}}

* ''[[Poke Wars|The Pokèmon They Carried]]'' features a [[Military Mashup Machine|land battleship]] known as the M1-12 Rhydon. This is a ''large'' vehicle that weighs about 130 tons and carries a 105  mm smoothbore gun and is bristling with 30  mm autocannon. Its armor can shrug off anything but Legendary Pokèmon attacks or a Hyper Beam. As a tradeoff, it is insanely slow with a top speed of twenty five miles per hour.[[/

* A few [[Kamen Rider|Kamen Riders]]s who use [[Multiform Balance|multiple forms]] have strength and defense-based forms. [[Kamen Rider Kuuga|Kuuga Titan]], [[Kamen Rider Agito|Agito Flame]], [[Kamen Rider Den-O|Den-O Axe and Zeronos Vega]], [[Kamen Rider Kiva|Kiva Dogga]], [[Kamen Rider Double|Accel]], [[Kamen Rider OOO|OOO SaGoZo Combo]], and [[Kamen Rider Fourze|Fourze Magnet States]] are examples in this vein.

* The original Mighty Glacier is the [[Our Dwarves Are All the Same|Dwarf race]] from ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons]]''.

*** Just gonna clarify something here: IF you haven't used your Swift action that turn (and have no real need for it), a Stone Dragon adept can easily go from [[Mighty Glacier]] to [[Lightning Bruiser]]. You move into position, use your Swift to reactivate the Stance you just ended, and then use a Strike (most Stone Dragon Strikes are Standard actions, meaning you can do this all day).

** Also in 3.5 the Dwarven Defender prestige class, which gives you a limited use ability that increases your strength and constition but preventing you from moving. [[Captain Obvious|It's dwarf exclusive]]. It's very useful for [[Hold the Line]] situations in a bottlenecked dungeon where all enemies must get through the dwarf's square to reach your [[Glass Cannon|Glass Cannons]]s. In most open spaces... Considerably less so.

* The Necrons of ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' tend towards this, being on average the toughest, most durable race in the game while generally having plodding movement. However, they do have a few [[Fragile Speedster]] units (which also favor the [[Glass Cannon]] angle), and with the right units, their normally slow troops can teleport into position.

* [[Exalted]] has Mount Mostath, a glacier-mammoth Behemoth whose assigned duty is to arrange glaciers in the arctic north. Its normal movement is too slow for anything with a human lifespan to notice that it's animate at all--butall—but when sufficiently agitated, it does attack the aggressors. It has Strength rating of ''Immeasurable'' and its stomps usually inflicts infinite damage to those without divine constitution. Of course, even a mere mortal can run quickly enough to evade Mount Mostath's stomps, given its tremendous size and weight.

* The Frost Atronach in [[The Elder Scrolls Skyrim]] is a very literal example, being a huge ice golem. It lacks ranged attacks like its lightning and fire counterparts, but if it ''does'' hit you, it deals frost damage that slows ''you'' down and hinders strong melee attacks.

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* ''[[Punch -Out!!]]'' King Hippo counts as one of these. Despite being slow and clumsy, his blows will ''hurt'' if they connect.

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* Donkey Kong in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', Bowser and Ganondorf as well in ''[[Super Smash Bros Melee]]''. Oddly enough, Princess Zelda also counts, but has the option to switch to a [[Fragile Speedster]] in battle. You might think DK and Bowser in Melee would be slooooow, but [httphttps://web.archive.org/web/20170719094230/https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee/Characters\] indicates that they both run faster than Mario. Brawl gave us King Dedede, Ike and Charizard in this category, as well as Solid Snake.

** ''[[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]]'', the [[Spiritual Successor]] to ''Guilty Gear'', has Iron <s>FUCKING</s> Tager. He takes up half of the damn screen with his [[Memetic Mutation|GIGANTIC TAGER]]. You will regret getting anywhere near him. What makes Tager even more terrifying is the fact that a lot of his attacks will cause the enemy to be magnetically charged, meaning Tager can drag them around the field. You can't even run from him. Hakumen, although he can dash, is also something of a slow powerhouse.

** On the ground, [[Final Fantasy II (Video Game)|Firion]] is the slowest-moving characters on Cosmos' side, [[Justified Trope|which is understandable,]] [[Walking Armory|given the sheer number of weapons he carries on his person]] (in a game where almost everyone else makes use of a [[Hyperspace Arsenal]]). It's such a shame that aerial combat tends to be more useful in this game, given how fearsome Firion's ground attacks can be when mastered...

** In the [[Visual Novel]], his attacks were so strong and fast that they caused air distortions which hit nearly as hard as his stone sword-axe-club-thing. With his [[NoWon't Work On SellMe]] God Hand, he was very much a [[Lightning Bruiser]]. However, this would obviously have made him rather broken (Saber notes in the [[Visual Novel]] that all the skill in the world wouldn't help if your opponent can just attack-spam his way through without consequence), so he got [[Nerf|Nerfed]]ed.

* Gold Lightan in ''[[TatsunokovsTatsunoko vs. Capcom]]'' takes this trope to the extreme: he hits really hard (Hell, every single move of his consists of throwing, slamming or crushing you in a really hard manner) and he's so colossal, he cannot be in a team and ''the camera has to pan out''. And that makes Alex's supers used against him quite hilarious.

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* Toyotomi Hideyoshi in ''[[Sengoku Basara]]'', since he's portrayed as a man with the size of a gorilla. He's even moreso [[Mighty Glacier]] than the [[Humongous Mecha]] Honda Tadakatsu, since a lot of his moves involves grappling moves (also Tadakatsu actually has good moving speed due to jets on his back). Even moreso in the fighting game spinoff ''[[Sengoku Basara]] X'' thought the most notable [[Mighty Glacier]] would be [[Church Militant]] [[Love Freak]] Xavi, the slowest of all characters in the game but one with massive amounts of firepower and love.

** Takeda Shingen also plays this trope straight (though maybe not as slow as Zabii), being the foil of his [[Fragile Speedster|super speedy]] [[The Rival|rival]] Uesugi Kenshin. Regardless, when you have [[Tessho Genda|Genda Tesshou]] as the seiyuu, you're almost guaranteed to be a [[Mighty Glacier]].

* In ''[[City of Heroes]]'', the final power available to the Stone Armor set (accessible only to Tankers and Brutes) iswas Granite Armor, which basically turnsturned the character into a [[Mighty Glacier]]. Virtually impervious to ''any'' type of damage, but you movemoved extremely slowly, havehad heavily reduced recharge on all attack-powers, and cancoouldn't jump at all... In general, though, this trope iswas averted in ''[[City of Heroes]]'', which allowsallowed Tankers to be speedsters if the player so chooses.

** It also letslet Tankers pick up teleportation, which pretty well negatesnegated the whole "barely mobile" thing.

** Setting aside movement speeds, the Energy Melee and Assault Rifle powersets havehad elements of this. Both sets havehad attacks with devastating amounts of damage, but also carrycarried extremely long attack animations. Furthermore, Energy Melee hashad only one (mediocre) area attack, while Rifles arewere not at their best against one enemy.

* ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' had a member of a [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] that was possibly the ultimate Mighty Glacier - Kael'thas's minion, Thaledred the Darkener. His melee attack is pretty respectable on its own, AND it applies a 12-sec [[Do T]]DoT where each tick does about the same damage as his regular melee. This could take out a BC tank easily. He moves at Walking Speed. The strategy for beating him is "Shoot him from far away, and run if he looks at you."

** Dire Trolls and Dire Orcs also fit this trope.

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* The stone form of your ball in ''[[Ballance]]''. It can move pretty much anything outta its way, but is itself hard to control (and will fall through fragile bridges).

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* In the RTS ''[[Total Annihilation]]'', the unit called "The Sumo" is true to its name: huge and powerful. Its problem is that it moves ''really'' slow. Its maximum speed is 0.34 &nbsp;m/s, compared to 1.72 &nbsp;m/s for the basic infantry unit. It acceleration stat is 0.04, which is abysmally slow.

** "The Can" came first. Not as slow (that's not saying much), not as powerful, not as expensive. But a lot more useful, since you can actually get it to ''go'' somewhere; in contrast, the Sumo is basically a defense turret that can be repositioned around the base if need be.

*** The DLC reintroduces the ''original'' Cybran Monkeylord, who lacks the general downscaling of experimentals in the base game.

* The Mammoth Tanks used by the Soviets/GDI in ''[[Command and& Conquer]]'' are among the slowest units in the game, but they pack a combination of two ultra-heavy cannons and anti-air/anti-infantry missile launchers, along with extremely heavy armor, enabling them to smash through enemy forces outnumbering them many times over. In ''Tiberium Wars'', the Mammoth is so overpowering that it can literally ''crush'' other tanks beneath its treads, and once upgraded with railguns, even waves of suicide bombers and missile infantry are mowed down without mercy.

** Don't forget the ''Red Alert'' series which just ''absolutely runs wild'' with this, especially for the Soviets. The Soviets are lucky enough to field the Apocalypse Tank, an [[Expy]] of the Mammoth Tank (which the Soviets also had in ''RA 1'') which can also run over smaller tanks, as well as the mighty [[Cool Airship|Kirov airship]] which is slow enough that ''infantry'' can outrun it; fortunately, it not only can obliterate an enemy base single-handedly, but is nothing short of a bullet sponge, especially in ''RA 2''. The Allies gained the Battle Fortress in ''Yuri's Revenge'' whose main attack mode is to simply run over enemy tanks, and the Assault Destroyer in ''RA 3'' which is quite literally a [[Military Mashup Machine|warship on land]]. And to say nothing of the Empire of the Rising Sun's Shogun Executioner, which is quite possibly the slowest, most awkward-moving unit in an RTS--andRTS—and you're expected to defeat the enemy completely with it and it alone.

** In ''[[Command and& Conquer: Generals]] Zero Hour'' the Emperor Overlord tank is this. It has two cannons, a built in device to heal itself and nearby units, it can be upgraded to use anti-air gatling guns.

* The Harkonnen's Devastator tanks in ''[[Dune II]]''. Like the Mammoth Tanks from Westwood's later franchise, ''[[Command and& Conquer]]'', these have the highest attack and armor in the game, but have the slowest movement speed.

* Each faction in ''[[StarcraftStarCraft II]]'' has one of the three slowest attacking units:

* ''[[StarcraftStarCraft]]''

** The Protoss Carrier is an interesting example as well; it's speed relative to other flyers tends to be sub-par, but it is still pretty nimble for a large unit, especially when considering it's ability to evade ground forces by flying over obstacles. It's [[Hit Points]] and armor are also quite impressive, and once a fleet of carriers is assembled, they can be a [[Oh Crap|serious destructive threat]] that is hard to ignore. A common joke in the [[StarcraftStarCraft]] community is "Mass Carriers = Instant Win!" due to the perception of how difficult a fleet can be to stop.

* In ''[[UFO: AfterblankAfter Blank|UFO Aftermath]]'', you can equip your troops with Heavy Armor which gives them the ultimate protection against physical attacks as well as the ability to use deployable heavy weapons like railguns. However, this armor makes the wearer unable to run or crouch, hinders healing as well as making the wearer very vulnerable to warp attacks, preventing it from becoming a [[Game Breaker]].

* Similar to [[StarcraftStarCraft]], each faction in [[Warcraft]] III have [[Hero Unit|heroes]] and units that are slow and tough.

* The heavy cruisers in ''[[Homeworld]]''. The Taiidani ''Qwaar-Jet''-class heavy cruisers are nearly half-a-kilometer long and armed with 2 dual [[Wave Motion Gun|ion cannons]] and 6 large [[Magnetic Weapon|mass driver]] turrets. They can take and dish out tremendous amount of punishment before going down. They are also slow as hell and vulnerable against fighters and corvettes, lacking anti-fighter weapons, making carriers useful, if they can stay out of their [[Arbitrary Maximum Range|weapons range]]. The Kushan ''Avatar''-class heavy cruisers are slightly smaller and faster but just as powerful (and just as vulnerable to fighters). ''Homeworld: Cataclysm'' features the return of the ''Qwaar-Jet'' but also adds the ''Archangel''-class dreadnoughts for Kiith Somtaaw (a Kushan clan), which costs almost double the heavy cruiser but also has more firepower and a better defense against fighters. ''Homeworld 2'' features even more mighty glaciers, including massive (nearly a kilometer long) battlecruisers for the Hiigarans (formerly known as the Kushan) and the Vaygr, both featuring their own [[Wave Motion Gun|Wave Motion Guns]]s (the Vaygr one being a [[Fixed Forward-Facing Weapon]], while the Hiigaran one being turreted). Then there are the limited-edition [[Precursors|Progenitor]] dreadnoughts (only 2 in the campaign) and the ''Sajuuk'' (5 kilometers in length), all of these featuring ridiculously-powerful [[Wave Motion Gun|phased cannons]] that can [[One-Hit Kill]] most warships.

* The Martian Fighting Machine from ''[[Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds]]'', slow and powerful.

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** [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/289.shtml Slaking] is the embodiment of this trope: It has the third highest Attack stat of any Pokémon, and while its speed stat is above average, it can only attack once every two turns due to its ability Truant. There are many double battle sets that revolve around compensating for this. Slaking's all-around base stats are equal to those of most legendaries. Stat-wise, it's even stronger than the likes of Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, and Garchomp.

** As if being one of the strongest and slowest wasn't enough, Snorlax can use Curse to make itself even stronger AND slower, plus Belly Drum to make itself stronger yet. A common strategy for players using Snorlax is the "Belly Drum Resto-Chesto" trick, using Belly Drum, then Rest to bring it to full health, with a Chesto Berry as a hold item that wakes it up intantly.

*** A much earlier example is Lt. Surge's Raichu. Evolving it far too early caused his Raichu to be much slower than the average Raichu, which are normally [[Fragile Speedster|Fragile Speedsters]]s. Ordinarily a slow Raichu would be a housepet and not a battler, but fortunately Lt. Surge's Raichu appears to have compensated for its slow speed with immense power and a great deal more bulk. But neither Raichu nor Lt. Surge were aware of any of this, and Raichu was completely confused when faced with Pikachu's superior speed during the rematch.

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**:* Sure does explain the failure accuracy of Crabhammer.

*** Scrafty serves as an interesting variation on this trope; while one of its common sets uses Dragon Dance and the sweeper-friendly ability Moxie to make it a [[Lightning Bruiser]] and rely on its defenses being good even uninvested to keep it afloat, an alternate set for it focuses almost entirely on HP and Special Defense before using Bulk Up to raise its Attack and Defense, evading status effects like poison through the Shed Skin ability. Barring moves like tricking it a choice item, phazing it out, or hammering it HARD the second it switches in, Scrafty becomes slow but nearly invincible once it's used Bulk Up two or more times and can proceed to plow through the entire enemy team using nothing but Drain Punch and Crunch/Payback, Resting as necessary.

* Ness from ''[[EarthboundEarthBound]]'' fits this role - and he falls into [[Glacier Waif]] as well. He has the most HP of anyone in the party, and the highest offense. It rises to [[Game Breaker]] levels once he gets the Magicant boosts.

* In ''[[Legend of Legaia]]'', Gala qualifies as this. The problem is that not only is his speed ridiculously slow, but his agility is low as well...which means he gets fewer attacks per round and thus the benefit of his extra strength is largely negated. Fortunately, there's an item that makes any character wearing it go first automatically, so after obtaining it in the last 3rd of the game, he ends up becoming the team's healer (having also the best magic in addition to strength).

* The ''[[Wild ArmsARMs]]'' series loves this character type. [[Wild ArmsARMs 1|The first game]] and ''Alter Code F'' had Rudy, [[Wild ArmsARMs 2|the second]] had Brad, and [[Wild ArmsARMs 3|the third]] had Clive. [[Wild ArmsARMs 4|The fourth game]] pushes this build's traits to their extremes. Its Mighty Glacier is so slow that everyone else tends to get two turns for the character's one, but hits so hard that even the game's strongest [[Bonus Boss]] can be dropped with two of the character's physical attacks. Oh, and her name's Raquel, making her one of the rare female examples.

** Although in Raquel's case, as one of her special abilities allows her to take an [[Extra Turn|additional turn]] immediately after her current one, she can do this ''four times in a row'' with a full force meter. Most later storyline boss fights have some unusual form of evasion or other tactical requirement to compensate for this.

** Greg from ''[[Wild ArmsARMs 5]]'' and Ragnar of ''[[Wild ArmsARMs XF]]'' fit this example pretty well too.

* ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'' has Robo. Outstanding physical power; best defense of anyone; excellent overall endurance, given his healing powers... and ''slow''. Ohkillmenowsoslow. Even with his speed cranked up to its maximum capacity, he STILL moves slow as hell compared to the others.

* In ''[[Tales of Symphonia]]'' the [[Mighty Glacier]], [[Meaningful Name|Presea Combatir]], is a [[Cute Bruiser|twelve-year old girl with pink hair]] who wields [[An Axe to Grind|axes bigger than she]].

* In the ''[[X -Men Legends]]'' series, you get your fare share of very strong and very slow characters: Colossus, Juggernaut and Rogue. One exception might be [[Secret Character|Iron Man]]. He has the strength, but move at normal speed.

** All Super Mutants are this to some extent, though some compensate for it with [[Gatling Good]] / [[More Dakka]].

* [[Final Fantasy IX|Adelbert Steiner]] is pretty slow in body, and before [[Character Development]] kicks in he's not exactly swift when it comes to brains, either. On the other hand, he can both give and take a tremendous amount of punishment.

* In various ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' games, the colossal Lexaeus plays this to an extreme, being all brute force with extremely limited movement. In ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep]]'', Terra takes this role, as well, compared to Ven's lightning-quick, long combos and Aqua's focus on magic.

* YMIR mechs in ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' are equipped with twin mass accelerator machine guns in one arm and a guided rocket launcher in the other, and their heavy shields and armor let them survive multiple full clips of slugs before being put down. Thankfully, their slow speed and large size allow you to keep your distance.

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* ''[[Ace Combat]] 6'' has the A-10A -- it10A—it's (even moreso than before) a [[Lightning Bruiser]] against ground targets, but as before a Mighty Glacier in air-to-air combat. Highest Defense and Stability in the game, but it pays for that in Speed and Mobility, and due to its lack of any air-to-air special weapon the A-10A pilot must use the regular short-range missiles and/or the even-shorter-range gun for dogfighting.

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* In any given ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' game where you have Knight and General class characters, you have a [[Mighty Glacier]]. As these characters generally are barely mobile, often half the speed of anyone else, but will generally take a "No Damage" from most enemy units, while able to crush enemies with a single hit.

** Knights are weak against magic, though, especially in the third game: due to how [[Critical Hit|Critical Hits]]s were calculated, the Graucalibur spell (which had a very high critical hit rate) was a massive [[Game Breaker]] against them, leading to the [[Fan Nickname]] "Can opener."

*** That depends ''heavily'' on the RNG favoring him or not. If it gives you less Speed points... well, Hector is the epithome of this, and you may need to give him a Speedwing to fix it.

* ''[[Star Control]]'' brings to the fray a number of [[Mighty Glacier]] ships, among them the pure brute-force Dreadnoughts and Marauders. Interestingly, the [[Puny Earthlings|Earthling Cruiser]] has a number of traits here as well, despite being a cheap mass-produced vessel; it has the best crew complement (i.e. health) for anything near its cost, excellent long-range firepower with tracking systems surpassed by exactly one other ship, good turning rate to line up shots and point-defense lasers to sweep enemy fighters. The catch? It would kill the three-times-the-price Dreadnought without breaking a sweat... but its forward speed is so incredibly bad that the [[Mighty Glacier]] ''poster ship'' can simply chase it down and melt it to slag.

* For the most part, all [[Super Robot|Super Robots]]s in ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' are Glaciers of various composition, while [[Real Robot|Real Robots]]s serve as Speedsters. However, the most notable [[Original Generation]] Glacier is without a doubt the Giganscudo, which is all but useless in ranged battles without enough Will but takes hits so damn well when its armor and health are fully upgraded it doesn't really matter. There is also [[Mazinger Z|Mazinkaiser]], which is trumped up as the "Unbreakable Defense" by Go Nagai, and it delivers(although in some incarnations, its stats are so unbalanced that it goes into [[Lightning Bruiser]] territory). Daitarn3 and the Mazinger series in general have always been the Glaciers of SRW, while [[Getter Robo]] is the [[Glass Cannon]] and the Gundams are [[Fragile Speedster|Fragile Speedsters]]s.

** Another exception is the Alteisen, a [[Real Robot]] that takes hits like a Super. It's rather telling that all of Kyosuke's rivals in the Original Generation games pilot Super Robots.

* The Bangaas in ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics Advance]]'' and ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics a 2A2]]''. Most of their classes favor defense, offense, and HP over speed and evasion. In A2 however, the Trickster class has a decent amount of speed growth in exchange for less power.

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* [[Tank Goodness|Tanks]]. They started out in The Great War as the ultimate Mighty Glaciers, with horrendous top speeds slower than that of a running infantryman, but great firepower, and nigh invulnerability to small arms fire. As wars became increasingly dynamic and mobile, though, tanks underwent progressive evolution to become [[Lightning Bruiser|Lightning Bruisers]]s, with modern Main Battle Tanks striking an even balance between firepower, armor and mobility. The image, however, still sticks. The last true Glaciers would have to be the heavy monsters built or designed by the Nazis and Soviets in World War 2:

** * Later iterations of the Panzer VI Tiger battle tank fielded by [[Those Wacky Nazis]] were mighty glaciers. They had armour capable of withstanding anything two Allied tanks could throw at them, but their ridiculously underpowered engine forced them to move at a crawl. [[Tiger I]] was a [[Lightning Bruiser]] until the Germans decided it needs ''more'' armour and an improved gun. The result was Tiger II or ''Königstiger''.

**** Not speaking of the tank destroyer version, Jagdtiger. It had 128 &nbsp;mm gun which could penetrate anything the Allies had on their disposal, and enough armour to protect a small town. It was usually driven into an ambush position, where it could best employ its assets - massive gun and massive armour. Jagdpanther was a similar tank destroyer version of Panzer V Panther.

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* The [[Cool Train]] [[wikipedia:Norfolk %26& Western 2156|Norfolk and Western Y5/Y6 class]] was extremely strong so it could pull heavy coal trains over the Appalachian Mountains, but was very slow.