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* ''[[Catch-22]]'' has, among its many things, a man who keeps intentionally getting court-martialled so as to get sentenced to dig ditches instead of go on the front lines. He also fraternizes with the officers.
* ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' tends to be something of an aversion except in specific areas. Officers from [[Upper Class Twit|politically and/or financially prominent families]] get to wear a [[Custom Uniform]] and are [[Nepotism|favored in promotion]] -- although to be fair if they prove incompetent they also usually end up dead because cowardice is not a Mantie vice of whatever class in society. (There is one exception, and he ends up killed in a less honorable manner.) All that said, the Royal Manticorean Navy maintains a strict chain of command. In the novella ''The Service of the Sword'', a Marine non-com of many a year respects the orders of an [[Ensign Newbie]] because of her rank. And it is specifically said that non-coms are allowed "respectful disagreement" with a lot of seniority, but this comes to no more than an, "if you say so sir".
** However, it is to be noted that the primary reason the senior NCO is obeying the ensign's orders in the above scene is because she's actually ''getting it right''. If her orders had been egregiously stupid her squad NCO would almost certainly have politely ignored her and done whatever ''he'' felt appropriate to the task, in full expectation that the captain would have backed him up on it later.
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** "Laid-back discipline" ... except when Sarge "disciplines" Beetle with a [[Big Ball of Violence]].
* ''[[Beau Peep]]'' is much the same. In fact, probably ''any'' gag-strip set in the military.
** Except ''[
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* The United States Merchant Marine is arguably like this (as are most country's merchant navies). While in and of itself a civilian career, Merchant Marine cadets and officers must wear naval-style uniforms and abide by military custom and are obligated to become a part of the United States Navy Reserve.
* Paramilitary forces are usually like this, due to not being a proper military, and having laxer disciplinary standards. Some of the more professional ones defy this trope however, and are much more effective for it.
* The crew of the USS Enterprise (no, not [[Star Trek|that]] one, [
** Actually, this is an example of the real military. This may be an example of reality being unrealistic, though. This sort of thing happens all the time in the military. The Tailhook incident is another good example. I wouldn't call either incident "mildly military." If so, every service member who breaks the rules is also "mildly military." What this is is an example of bad judgment.
*** To be honest, what I consider most Mildly Military in the Enterprise incident (I am not aware of the other one you mentioned) are the reactions and conversations among the crew. They don't even seem to address their superior officer as "sir"—granted, from those videos it seems ''very'' likely that the XO himself enforced this laid back atmosphere, but it does resemble most examples of Mildly Military in fiction.
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