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== There is a scene missing from [[Eo E]]''EoE'' ==

Ok, ok, ok. This is more wishful thinking than Wild Mass Guessing. However, the tone at the end of the series is so irreconcilable with the very last scene of [[Eo E]]''EoE'', that one cannot help but scream WTF and think there is something missing. Here it is¦..

After Asuka's final line in the movie, Shinji wakes up with a start. The previous scene was a dream. Shinji and Asuka are still alone on the beach. However, things are slightly different. Shinji looks in one direction, and sees forests thick with vegetation. In the other direction, he sees Tokyo-3. The city appears to be empty, but the buildings are repaired and clean, and there are sounds coming from the city that suggests humans might already have returned. Shinji then looks at Asuka and stands up. He closes his eyes, clenches his fits, and remembers all of the speeches from the last two episodes of NGE and the parting words of Yui from [[Eo E]]''EoE''. With courage in his voice, he says to Asuka, "Before you start screaming at me listen", and then proceeds to tell her that it was physically impossible for him to awake Unit 01 in time. He also tells her that he did not pull her out of the LCL, but that he is happy she is there, Because I wouldn't have anyone else by my side! Asuka gets up and tells Shinji she knows. She also says that she decided to leave the LCL herself. She then pulls in a shocked Shinji for a long and passionate kiss. As the two embrace, the camera pulls out, and Fly me too the moon plays.

* That's already been discussed extensively [[Main/ptitle 2 ugbrwb 8 sjn 4Fanfiction.net|here]].

* Something also to add-out of all the voice actors for the characters to return for the rebuild series, only Shinji, Auska and Misato have the same voice actors throughout the series and rebuild (English voice actors, going off TV Tropes list). Coincedintally, those are the same characters who have their psyche examined in Episodes 25 and 26, and two of them are the survivors at the end of [[Eo E]]''EoE''. A coincidence, or a plot point...

* The Red water in Rebuild was caused by {{Main/[[Siren |the Forbidden Siren}}]].

[[WMG:== The Evangelions contain their own souls, which have imprinted upon the {{spoiler|souls of their absorbed test subjects}} ==

== Gendo Ikari is {{spoiler|1=double-crossing NERV and SEELE (who are also double-crossing NERV) to further his own agenda -- to resurrect his dead wife.}} ==

For this, we need to assume two things: First, "God" is the alpha and omega. That's the reason for why Rei appears at the beginning at the end. Rei in herself isn't God, but during [[Eo E]]''EoE'' gains the divine powers via the Lilith/Adam-fusion to make Shinji's (and NOT Gendo's) wish come true (a world without people to hurt him and his beloved. There have been speculations about that last Asuka actually being a Asuka/Rei/Misato mix). During that time, a number of Reis harvested the souls of people. They could transform into their beloved (most likely a reference to near-dead-experiences which speak of a light and a pure feeling of love), but most of the time we see Reis in their school uniforms - the same Shinji sees in the beginning in the end. Also, there was "one Rei for everyone" (that sounds so weird), even in a view of a floor full of dead and now Tang'd people ther's one Rei standing beside every puddle. I think this could be a reference to another belief, that God is "too big to fit into one religion" and that he/she/it is within all of us. So maybe Shinji was twice able to see "his" God. Because he's the chosen one or something.

The blood on the moon might still be there because of Third Impact (remember that blood fountain when GNR died?), Kaworu uttered something along "The Third again, huh?" (in my version at ~1:32), which might be referring to Shinji as the Third Child who will be once again in the middle of prophecy. Image this with me together: After Third Impact, [[Eo E]]''EoE'' style, the world began from zero again. We know there are some chances because the LCL puddle could still spawn people together. We don't know what happened to Shinji and Asuka after Third Impact, maybe they died because there's no food around, maybe they joined the LCL - the primeval soup from which new life will spawn.

This WMG was initially postulated here: [http://paste.lisp.org/display/84795 here].

By rejecting it Shinji fucks up everyone's very existence. In order for reality to not collapse on itself, and perhaps because Shinji was sort-of-a-god during [[Eo E]]''EoE'' and wanted more than anything to go back and fix everything, time itself reset to the beginning of Neon Genesis Evangelion, however, normally things would have just continued on their path and the same problem would be faced again, that is, Shinji would have rejected Instrumentality yet again.

Remember that Kaworu is just to Seele what Rei is to Nerv? The Kaworu on the moon at the beginning of Rebuild could be one of several clones of Kaworu, they all retain the same memories and soul, but only one can be active at once. (Notice that in [[Eo E]]''EoE'' the names on the dummy plugs on the mass production Eva's is "Kaworu".) What if when Kaworu was created, some time before the beginning of Rebuild of Evangelion I assume (The same time he was created in the original NGE, who knows how old he is?), he knew everything that happened during the series, how Shinji would be hurt and how he would die. He doesn't want that to happen because he has fallen in love with Shinji during NGE and wants to change the course of history now that he knows what would have happened, so, without Seele's knowledge, he changes things before the beginning of Rebuild, makes decisions that will lead the characters down alternative paths. (Like arranging that the new girl, Mari would be transferred to Nerv in Japan.)

* The whole "alternate evolutions" thing seems to be memetic mutation stemming from bochan_bird's script translation of [[Eo E]]''EoE'', which may have obscured the meaning of a critical line by, incidentally, not being literal enough! Misato seems to be essentially saying that "we humans" (18th Angel, Lilin) and the "Angels" (Adam's progeny) are two possible humanities, and, unlike us, the Angels abandon human form (see: Sandalphon). This interpretation seems to be affirmed by an info dump from an anonymous Seed of Life in ''Neon Genesis Evangelions 2'' (PSP), who reminds Kaworu that Seeds of Life served as "designers" for their progeny, and "either bestowed upon them shapes as any form of life, or acted as representatives and chose the form" (Angels vs. Lilin, anyone?).

It makes sense since in [[Eo E]]''EoE'', Third Impact happened because of how depressed and sad Shinji was. In Rebuild, he took so many levels in badass that Third Impact happened all over.

The idea is that Satan is always vying for the throne of God, and as such, [[A God Am I|attempts to make himself a god]]. Humanity are pawns in this cosmic game, and the Angels are the attempt at stopping SEELE (Satan's) attack. SEELE attempts to obtain unholy power through screwing with the order of creation, triggering the Apocalypse (Second Impact) and Tribulation (the following years.) This brings the wrath of god in the form of the Angels to earth--they didn't bother us until we forced second impact. Not in line with biblical chronology, after this Jesus (Yui) is [[And I Must Scream|crucified to the Evangelion]] for the sins of man, collectively represented by Shinji Ikari, who's being continually tempted to succumb to [[Despair Event Horizon]] and join SEELE in destroying the world. She returns on Judgment Day (As incarnated in [[Eo E]]''EoE''), helps with how Shinji questions whether it is really worth it to kill off human life just to be a god, gives him hope in humanity thus allowing him to reject Instrumentality, and in the end spends the rest of eternity in space as an individual symbol to humanity's existence. Granted, this is more of a heavy borrowing of concepts from christianity than an allegorical fulfillment of them; the series is not allegorical event-wise, but in a general, thematic sense: Those who attempt to become God both destroy the world and [[Lonely At the Top|lose anyway]]. None of the correlations I've mentioned likely hold, but the theme seems reasonable. It's the old tale of [[Hubris]], with religious overlays.

Though, if you think about it, this could happen, since [[K-On!]] Yui had [[Sickeningly Sweethearts|SickeninglySweetheartSickeningly Sweetheart]] parents, which could realistically translate into adult Yui (both K-On! and NGE) being kind and caring, which, from what little characterization we get for Shinji's mother, she seems to be. A more complete comparison/description can be found at the [[OrphanedK-On! (Manga)/WMG/Ptitlei 5 gydjrz|K-On! WMG.]]

== The Instrumentality Sequence in [[Eo E]]''EoE'' is a reference to the Rapture ==

== Gendo gets reincarnated as Billy Ray Cyrus ==

== {{spoiler|Ever since Kaworu's death, Shinji Ikari actually committed [[Driven to Suicide|suicide]]}}. ==

{{spoiler|The incident on Terminal Dogma, where Shinji was forced to kill Kaworu, broke Shinji so much that he actually tried to commit suicide. The Instrumentality thing was just a [[Dying Dream]]: a hallucination that appears during death, As Shinji progressed to die, his [[Mind Screw|twisted mentality]] is revealed in front of him, a delusion of [[Kill All Humans|destroying all of humankind]] [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum|under the pretense of oneness]]. His petty wishes like Asuka were also revealed. Yup, there were no actual Giant naked Reis, no fapping to Asuka, none of that. After Shinji committed suicide, the Real Instrumentality involved Seele giving free psychotherapies to the global population such as the Nerv staff, and Gendo Ikari successfully creating an actual Yui clone with Yui's s soul. What about Rebuild Of Evangelion? Let's just say Shinji was reincarnated and got a chance to be happy in an [[Alternate Universe]].}}

Gendo was a douchebag so he made Rei get naked but she didn't want to so she got big and went into space. Then Shinji thought soup was cool so they all got made into soup. Shinji then realised that soup wasn't all that cool because he didn't like tomato so he stopped being soup. Asuka thinks that soup isn'tt? coo l either so she was dead with bandages because she thinks bandages are sexy. Then Shinji strangles her back to life. Fuyutsuki doesn't care.

== The events of shinji ikari raising project are the result of eva 01's crossing over to the past of an alternate timeline after the events of [[Eo E]]''EoE'' ==

== ''[[Solaris (Literature)|Solaris]]'' takes place in the far future of {{spoiler|Shinji Ikari Raisng Project Earth after the discovery of the far future alternate Earth of EOE''EoE''}} ==

However, in [[Eo E]]''EoE'', EVA-01 moves independently, but it still has its Entry Plug ready, thus allowing it to move at will.

It would fit the religious motif. Plus one interpetation of Heaven ends up with "all of humanity becoming one with God", eerily similar to {{spoiler|everyone becoming one with [[Eldritch Abomination|Adam/Lilith]], the creator of all life on Earth.}} Going by this, it may actually ''be'' Armageddon. Thus either Kaworu (who decided not to destroy humanity) or Shinji {{spoiler|(who triggered Instrumentality)}} is the Second Coming of Jesus. It also ties with Keel being the Wandering Jew: the Wandering Jew is destined to live forever until the End of Days. Keel [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|is tired of living forever]], so he decides to [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum|end]] [[The End of the World As We Know It|it]] [[Death Seeker|all.]]

== Alternatively, SeeleSEELE is also known as the [[Welcome to The NHK|NHK]] ==