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''[[Ogre Battle]]'' is a series of games created by [[Ivalice Alliance|Yasumi Matsuno]]. The first game
What made this game different from other Strategy [[RPG|RPGs]] of the time, such as ''[[Front Mission]]'' and ''[[Fire Emblem]]'', was a [[Real Time Strategy]] presentation, as well as its open endedness. One started out as a leader of a rebellion against an evil empire, who with the help of a seer named Warren tries to save, or conquer Xenobia. Depending on how one plays the game, one's reputation can have him be seen as evil
The series's next installment
This game was very popular in Japan, for its story, and well-executed, if different, gameplay. Its reception in the West was a little poorer
The third game in the series was ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'' for [[Super Title 64 Advance|(you guessed it)]] [[Nintendo]] 64, also known as ''Ogre Battle: Person of Lordly Caliber, (Episode VI)''. Going back to the roots of the series,
A side game of the series was released on the GBA. ''[[Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis]]'' tells the story of a young squire named Alphonse. Alphonse is a knight in his best friend Rictor Lasanti's military unit, the Order of the Sacred Flame, and he is sent to Ovis. Ovis is divided by conflict thanks to an agressive push of Lord Batraal, living on the north of the island. Alphonse is separated from the rest of his units, and begins to uncover a sordid plot opposing the pope and the empire of Lodis over the fabled spear of destiny and the possible resurrection of a fallen angel.
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* [[Annoying Arrows]]: ''Very'' averted, especially in ''Let Us Cling Together
* [[Ars Goetia]]: Many of the characters in ''Tactics Ogre'' and ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'' are named for Goetic demons. Barbatos, Martym, Andoras, Haborym, Aloser, Forcas, Balzepho (originally Baalzephon)
** Then many of these names were changed for the PSP rerelease.
* [[Artificial Stupidity]]: Guest characters are ''very'' stupid. Even worse, they refuse to come into the training sessions with you, meaning that they remain low-leveled while the enemy becomes just as strong as you... [[Too Dumb to Live|not that this will stop them from charging right into them while]] ''[[Too Dumb to Live|you]]'' [[Too Dumb to Live|are trying to maneuver your army in a different direction entirely
* [[Ascended Extra]]: Some generic enemy leaders are given Warren Report entries in the PSP remake, most prominently Mordova (previously a witch, now a Necromancer), and Hektorr (originally named Didario, this was his first name, and he's now linked further with Nybeth's story).
* [[The Atoner]]: The Dragoon Jeunan in ''Tactics Ogre''.
* [[Black Knight]]: The class 'Evil One' is also translated as 'Black Knight'.
** Carth from ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]''.
* [[Blood Knight]]: Eurynome Rhade from ''Ogre Battle 64'' is this a bit.
* [[Boisterous Bruiser]]: Gildas and the Berserker Xapan in ''Tactics Ogre'', more so in the Lawful route (for Xapan).
* [[Bonus Dungeon]]: Hell Gate, an epic 100 level battle with no saves, no heals, and hordes of monsters. Good thing you get gamebreaking stuff in there.
* [[Brick Joke]]
** The dragoon Jeunan had a [[Dark and Troubled Past]]. Well, it seems to have been behind us now... and in chapter four, it then comes ''right'' back to haunt him.
* [[Catch-22]]:
* [[Catch Phrase]]: For the series overall. "FIGHT IT OUT!"
* [[Character Alignment]]:
* [[Elemental Powers]]: Plays a rather good chunk of role in the latter games. In the original, Three Dragoons (Slust, Fenril and Fogel) are based on this, as well as the Four Sisters (Cistina, Cerya, Sherri and Olivya). The usual ones are 1. [[Playing with Fire|Fire]], 2. [[Blow You Away|Wind]] and [[Shock and Awe|Lightning]] combined together, 3. [[Making a Splash|Water]] and [[An Ice Person|Ice]] combined together, 4. [[Dishing Out Dirt|Earth]], 5. [[Casting a Shadow|Dark/Bane]], and 6. [[Light'Em Up|Light/Virtue]]
* [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]]: ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'' added the Earth element to oppose thunder, and renamed the evil element "Bane".
* [[Fake Ultimate Mook]]: The Golem units in most of the games. They have inherently high strength (and, in the front row, deliver three crushing punches) and can easily withstand most physical damage. However, they have pitiful HP, and are easily slain by one or two Fire-elemental spells.
** They make nice platforms to get your troops to higher ground in the ''Tactics Ogre'' games.
* [[False-Flag Operation]]:
** {{spoiler|It's lawful because you're upholding the rules of your government. Therefore, the choice here is between [[Lawful Neutral]] and [[Chaotic Good]]
*** However, in ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'', the numeric alignment is replaced with a visual scale representation of "lawful" and "chaotic", and in the game's context, "
* [[Four Is Death]]: The Four Devas (Debonair, Figaro, Previa and Luvalon) plays this straight. Subverted in the Four Sisters because they're not bad guys per se, except that Sherri starts out as an enemy.
* [[Fragile Speedster]]: Ninja units get three attacks per battle earlier than most other classes, and deal quite a bit of damage, but don't have the defenses of other units in the front line. They do have a fairly decent agility stat
* [[Gender-Restricted Ability]] In most
* [[Half-Human Hybrid]]: More like... Half-demigod hybrid. Fogel is a dragon-like humanoid, who slays dragons.
* [[Handicapped Badass]]: Hobyrim is blind, yes. And he still kicks your ass.
* [[Heroic Sacrifice]]: In ''Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis'', either {{spoiler|Cybil, Eleanor
* [[Hot-Blooded]]: Dio.
* [[Karma Meter]]: Two kinds: a meter that gives your army's overall reputation, and the "alignment" stat for individual units.
** The "Charisma" stat also qualifies - it moves in the same way that the "Alignment" stat does, except much slower - but advanced classes all require ''high'' charisma, meaning that the advanced evil classes are some of the hardest to get in the game (being high CHA, low-to-mid ALI).
* [[Kick the Dog]]: Rhade from ''Person of Lordly Calibur'' shows how much of a [[Jerkass]] he is by brutally kicking a captured rebel right after he had previously killed an unarmed one while the man was fleeing.
* [[Literary Allusion Title]]: Almost every installment's title has something to do with [[Queen]], as does the overall series title.
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* [[Meaningful Name]]: Sirius.
* [[Mighty Glacier]]: Many of the larger beast characters, like Giants and Dragons. Octopi are stellar examples as well (that is, [[Captain Obvious|if deployed in the water]]). You would think that would include Golems; however, see [[Fake Ultimate Mook]] above.
* [[Multiple Endings]] : A staple of the series. ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'' seems to indicate that the real ending of the first game {{spoiler|is the 100% good one, with your character giving the throne to the rightful heir
* [[My Country, Right or Wrong]]: Many, many examples. From the original game, Hikash and Figaro come to mind.
* [[No Arc in Archery]]: You'll love that they averted this whenever you start on the top of a map, and hate them for it whenever you're at the bottom.
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* [[Our Liches Are Different]]
* [[Our Werewolves Are Different]]: The Werewolves transform every night instead of following any sort of lunar cycle. They can also talk and don't go berserk.
* [[Out of Focus]]: This tends to happen for a lot of named characters. They don't want the plot hinging on someone who could have died a little while ago before they became really important. So the dev team for ''[[Tactics Ogre]]'' uses the "Put them in the background; put in some other events if they show up/alter other events if certain characters are present in the player party
** The Four Sisters barring Olivya do not have one as they're optional and depends on the route you take (unless you go for the bad end at Chaos/Neutral for an extra scene with Cistina and Cerya). Also, there's only ONE variation that will be shown in the ending (
** ''The Knight of Lodis'' is a little better about keeping the named characters in focus due to its much smaller cast in general as well as how there are fewer variations on the story. (
*** Justifiable with Shiven, see [[Fridge Brilliance]]
* [[Palette Swap]]: To differentiate NPCs from other units of their class. Some advanced classes are also palate swaps of earlier ones.
* [[Rage Against the Heavens]]: {{spoiler|The fallen angel Shaher's agenda in ''The Knight of Lodis''}}.
* [[Revive Kills Zombie]]: Undead units (skeletons and ghosts) are dusted with one hit from a holy attack, usually delivered by [[The Medic|cleric classes]].
** Changed in ''[[Ogre Battle 64]]'', although still used:
* [[Rival Turned Evil]]:
** In ''Person of Lordly Calibur'': {{spoiler|Dio}} if you lose him from your team,
** In ''The Knight of Lodis'': {{spoiler|Rictor}} is turned evil [[Demonic Possession|supernaturally
* [[Say It with Hearts]]: Deneb.
* [[Schrödinger's Gun]]: Vyce will become your opposite no matter what you choose to become.
* [[Schrödinger's Question]]: Numerous games ask the player questions at the start which determine initial units and stats.
* [[Shout-Out]]: Yasumi Matsuno loves the band [[Queen]]. Both "Ogre Battle" and "The March of the Black Queen" are the name of Queen songs, and the stage "The Rhyan Sea" is a reference of the Queen song "Seven Seas of Rhye". The subtitle of ''Tactics Ogre'', "Let Us Cling Together", is another Queen song.
** The Hawkman class and the character Canopus Wolph, of the special Vartan class, are inspired by the Hawkmen and their leader Vultan from ''[[Flash Gordon (comic strip)|Flash Gordon]]''. Although, the true inspiration may still be [[Queen]], who did the soundtrack for the [[Flash Gordon (film)|1980 ''Flash Gordon'' film]]. One of the tracks was titled "Vultan's Theme (Attack of the Hawk Men)
** Also, in ''Let Us Cling Together'', when Catiua reveals that Prancet isn't her and Denam's father...
{{quote|'''Denam''': ''That's not true! That's impossible!!''
'''Catiua''': ''I overheard him talking once. [[Star Wars|Search your feelings, Denam. You know it to be true...]]''
** While we're talking about ''Star Wars'' references... The ending song from the original ''Ogre Battle'' sounds a LOT like the Ewok Celebration song from the original version of ''Return of the Jedi'' (before it was changed in the Special Edition).
** In the remake of ''Tactics Ogre'' for PSP, an obscure Palace of the Dead class is described as, "Death eater: A dark mage, said to practice cannibalism. They serve one who must not be named." Where did that one come from...
** ''The Knight of Lodis'' features one to ''[[Lord of the Rings]]''. When the ogre Rimmon, dies, he regains his "human heart" and says "my precious".
* [[Squishy Wizard]]: Wizard units deal excessive amounts of damage, but tend to die easily.
** Depending on the game, in ''The Knight of Lodis'', they aren't entirely that good. ''[[The Same but More|Sirens]]'', on the other hand...
* [[Those Two Guys]]: Mirdyn and Gildas in ''Tactics Ogre''
* [[Three Amigos]]: The Three Dragoons.
* [[Two Guys and a Girl]]: Magnus, Dio
* [[White Mage]]: Cleric, Priest
* [[A Worldwide Punomenon]]: [http://www.history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wr.htm Warren Report].
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