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* Reginald Hudlin's current{{when}} run on ''Black Panther'' has editors actively accommodating haphazard rewrites to make the character more "relevant" (Storm [[Strangled by the Red String|dropping out of the X-Men to marry him]] isn't even the worst of them).
* [[Rob Liefeld]] started off as a fairly average artist on ''Hawk & Dove''. Then he moved over to ''New Mutants'' and started getting popular; as his fame increased, his art became more and more stylized and less and less polished. Feet vanished, biceps bulged painfully as wrists and ankles shrank, and the entire work became more and more focused on guns, boobs, and muscles, to the detriment of everything else. Then other artists started ''[[Follow the Leader|copying]]'' him...
* [[Frank Miller]]'s ''[[All Star DC Comics|All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder]]''. A completely insane take on the character, which gave the world lines like "Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Batman."
* [[Grant Morrison]] in general. Especially since Dan Didio publicly stated he didn't understand most of ''[[Final Crisis]]'', but trusted Morrison's word that it was fantastic.
** Speaking of a major DC writer, Geoff Johns is also protected in such a way.
** This is, again, [[Tropes Are Not Bad|not necessarily a bad thing]]. 52, regarded as one of the best comics in the last several years, was penned by both Morrison and Johns, plus two other well-known writers, Waid and Rucka. Between the four of them, they didn't need to bow to ''any'' editor. Although the end product was amazing, chief of DC, Dan Didio, was angry he got so little input on it, and made a new series that gave him total control. The result was [[So Bad It's Horrible|Countdown.]]
* A notable exception would by Gary Larson, of ''The Far Side'' fame. He's said more than once that the reason the comic kept going as long as it did was because of his editor rejecting especially tasteless cartoons.
** Similarly, Bill Watterson of ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' commented in the introduction he wrote to the complete collection he was grateful to his editors. In his view, even when he thought a strip was funny, he would always read their criticisms of rejected material and learn from it.
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* Barbara Cartland. While never anything less than fluff, her mid-career works described places very vividly even if the prose was a bit purple, and her heroines actually did things and could speak in complete sentences. Paragraphs were more than a single sentence. By the 90s... not so much.
* Rumor is that part of [[Gor|John Norman's]] contract when he switched publishers to DAW was a no-edit clause.
* [[Christopher Paolini]], author of [[The Inheritance Cycle]], is often accused of this by
** Mind you, self-editing may not be that much better than a lack thereof, at least in the eyes of the [[Hatedom]].
* [[Jules Verne]] is probably one of the most glaring examples. As it turned out, Verne didn't really think much of humanity, and that bright and cheerful atmosphere and the belief in science that made his ''Voyages Extraordinaires'' series so popular in the world, were, in fact, mainly a product of pressure from members of his social circle, such as Nadar and his life-long friend and editor Pierre-Jules Hetzel. Hetzel, being Verne's ''publisher'', was in position to pressure his friend the most, and outright rejected a couple of Verne's especially bleak early novels,<ref>These were later found in Verne's papers and published. One of them, ''Paris in the XX Century'', was so dark that it would've make any [[Cyberpunk]] author proud.</ref> and heavily edited others. Verne, who was doubly not in position to argue,<ref>He didn't want to fight with his newfound friend and, besides, he was nearly broke at the time so he couldn't afford losing royalties</ref> complied, and thus the writing tandem was born. After Hetzel's death his successors weren't that insistive, and Verne's latest novels became increasingly dark and gloomy.
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== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* [[Hulk Hogan]] was the biggest name in the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]], but when he signed with [[WCW]] in 1994, he was granted creative control over his matches, basically making him a [[God Mode Sue]].
* Long-time [[Professional Wrestling]] writer [[Vince Russo]] rose to prominence as the architect of the [[
** Don't forget there's a good reason [[TNA|they chant "Fire Russo"]] during the "Reverse Battle Royal Gauntlet Which Then Becomes a Scissors On a Pole Match - With Two People Left You Have to Then Put Up on a Rope From Atop A Ladder Then Fetch it Back Down and Shave the Head of the Loser" match. Or the [[Wall Banger|"Electrified Six Sides of Steel" match]].
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== Webcomics ==
* Really, almost any webcomic with issues could go here, as few of them have any sort of editing process in the first place. As the only requirements for a webcomic are 1) webspace and 2) the ability to create and upload image files, a creator essentially receives protection from editors by ''default'' rather than needing to meet some success requirement first. Out of those that do have some sort of pre-post review process, many are reviewed by friends and, ahem, [[Lickspittle|devoted]] fans whose real job is to tell the creator how awesome it is and how they shouldn't change a thing. This reasoning is ''also'' why [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|examples should not be placed here]].
** This is probably why some of the most beloved and consistent webcomics are made by at least a two-person team
== Western Animation ==
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