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** {{spoiler|[[Redemption Equals Death|Veil's death]]}} in ''Outcast'', which came out of ''nowhere''. It seemed like that was thrown in there just...because. And it falls into [[Fridge Logic]], since {{spoiler|Veil}} [[Taking the Bullet|Took The Spear]] for somebeast he had no problem trapping inside of a cave and leaving to die just a few chapters earlier, and he definitely did ''not'' show a change in attitude between then and his [[Heroic Sacrifice]].
* [[Base Breaker]]: Veil Sixclaw from ''Outcast'', so very much. Some people sympathize with him because he's a [[Jerkass Woobie]] with a tragic backstory who always falls victim to [[Fantastic Racism]] by the Redwallers. Others don't give a shit, thought he had an unjustified [[Freudian Excuse]], and considered his subplot [[Trapped by Mountain Lions|to be an absolute waste]]. Some would even go as far as saying [[Ruined FOREVER|he ruined the entire book]].
** Felldoh. On one hand, he took the [[Leeroy Jenkins]] route and gradually went from your everyday smart protagonist to a virtually emotionless [[Sociopathic Hero]] who didn't care how many had to die in order to stop Badrang. But on the other hand, he's badass, courageous, and had the balls to {{spoiler|attack Badrang ''by himself'' and humiliate him in front of his entire army by whipping him like a slave}}. And unlike Martin, Felldoh didn't waste his time dealing with a bunch of [[Wacky Wayside Tribe
** Horty is either a hilarious [[Butt Monkey]] [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|who has his occasional badass moments]], or he's a [[Wangst|whiny]], [[The Scrappy|annoying]] hare.
* [[Broken Aesop]]:
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** Right around ''Lord Brocktree'', the target audience age stayed the same and you grew <s> out of it</s> old enough to notice the [[Fridge Logic]].
** Jacques' questionable grasp on continuity probably doesn't help.
** Neither does the incessant amount of [[Black and White Morality]] and [[
** At some point, Redwall subplots were forced into each book, and many of them had little or [[Trapped by Mountain Lions|no relation to the main plot]].
* [[Kick the Dog]]: Many villains do it a few times per book, but even good guys aren't immune from time to time.
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* [[Ugly Cute]]: Many fans [[Misaimed Fandom|prefer the vermin characters]]. Somewhat inevitable when your ugly, wicked villains [http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/files//web/sites/wordpress-mu-2.6.1/wp-content/blogs.dir/416/files//2008/11/cute-rat.jpg look] [http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/006/cache/red-fox_679_600x450.jpg like] [http://cute-n-tiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/cute-stoat4-400x300.jpg this.]
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]:
** For starters, the use of [[
** Also, the treatment of many foxes as [[Roma]], and of course not one of them can be trusted.
* [[Villain Decay]]: Korvus Skurr. At the start of ''Doomwyte'', he actually comes across as a competent and frightening [[Big Bad]]. But as the novel progresses, he slowly starts to lose control over his own army (due to his reckless decision to hire ''[[Psycho for Hire|a blind adder]]'' as an instrument for fear against the Redwallers), and eventually he devolves into a [[Smug Snake]].
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