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* [[Acceptable Targets]]: Many of Jigsaw's victims are deplorable characters, such as thieves, druggies, racists, gangsters, killers, rapists, [[And Zoidberg|and lawyers]]. [[Subverted Trope|In some cases, though,]] the victims have only made [[Disproportionate Retribution|minor mistakes in their lives]], and others are completely innocent.
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Is Jigsaw a [[Complete Monster|true monster]], or a legitimately [[Well
** Given his capabilities, more like an anthropomorphic personification of a force of nature. A few myths come to mind as well for more specific possibilities.
*** There's another dimension to him as of the sixth movie. {{spoiler|The main character was employed by the company that denied his insurance claims. In four and five, his lawyer and the man who (accidentally, but was still a horrible person) killed his unborn kid, the second movie was about the cops that were after him, and the first film featured his doctor who didn't even bother to remember his name. On top of that, many of the other victims are people he was jealous of. Not saying he didn't actually kill some truly rotten people, but the more the series goes on, the more it seems like the entire series is his petty revenge list.}}
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** Gibson, good lord.
* [[Rooting for The Empire]]: Two cases:
** First of course is Jigsaw as the main character of this [[Villain Based Franchise]] who fans started to get behind after awhile ala Freddy Kreuger, Jason, Michael Myers etc. His status as [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] wins him a lot of sympathy points, and his [[Affably Evil]] justifications for the things he does and people he does them to do at times have some merit.
** The second is more [[Your Mileage May Vary]] but quite a few people are getting behind {{spoiler|Hoffman}} because of {{spoiler|his}} actions in the 5th and 6th movies painting {{spoiler|him}} as a Badass [[Magnificent Bastard]] Determinator who improvises [[Xanatos Speed Chess]] on the fly whenever things start going bad for {{spoiler|him}}. Of course just as many if not more people think of {{spoiler|him}} as a [[Complete Monster]] and {{spoiler|are happy he got his final comeuppance in the finale.}}
* [[The Scrappy]]: As the sequel number increases, so do the number of annoying or useless characters. The original ''Saw'' is the only one that doesn't have a scrappy in it. It gets rather frustrating when ''the main character being tested'' is the scrappy. It gets even '''''more''''' frustrating when scrappies are just about [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|to get out of the heap]], but end up getting killed.
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* [[Wangst]]: Jeff Denlon.
* [[The Woobie]]: It's hard not to feel sorry for Jill as {{spoiler|she struggles and fails to escape the Reverse Bear Trap at the end of ''3D'', with her happier times with John flashing before her eyes}}.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: Arguably Jigsaw with his tragic backstory in the later sequels. Doesn't excuse the murderous course he took with his life; but it's still pretty damn sad.
** Applies to Amanda in ''Saw III''. Also can describe Hoffman, at least until he goes [[Ax Crazy]].
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