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* The ''[[Naruto]]'' universe essentially mixes feudal society with modern technology (and clothing). The only exceptions are things like cars and [[Fantasy Gun Control|guns]]. The author once admitted this, and said that he thought of the Leaf village as more of "a place in my head" that existing in an definite geography or time period and that the existence of ninja, and really the whole story, would be pretty pointless if they had those (or maybe just guns, as he stated there ''might'' be vehicle).
** The various shinobi have been seen to utilize laryngophones for short-range communication but long-range communication seems to rely on couriers and messenger beasts.
** In the Naruto manga (chapter 19 page 8) [https://web.archive.org/web/20120807031350/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-019/page008.html there is a gun behind the shop counter].
** One of the Six Paths of Pain is a friggin cyborg armed to the teeth with high explosive homing missiles and a huge-ass laser beam and {{spoiler|Nagato himself}} is confined into what appears to be some sort of mobile throne, both oddly futuristic compared to the rest.
*** The village he's from is also somehow heavily industrialized (even somewhat [[steampunk]]ish), despite it being frequently desolated from wars held there by other countries.
*** It's also worth noting that this body was apparently constructed either by being hooked up to an [[Eldritch Abomination]] or via [[Superpowerful Genetics]], and either way it was a power used by the Sage of the Six Paths, who lived centuries or even millennia ago.
*** Later, there's evidence that the Asura Path's abilities just a bizarre ninja technique and not an actual "cyborging" of the body {{spoiler|when a revived Nagato spontaneously grows robot arms from his normal, emaciated body in chapter 551}}.
** In chapter 354, apropos of completely freaking nothing [https://web.archive.org/web/20120807031052/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-354/page004.html we see dozens of buildings of late 20th century build], all of which are abandoned except for one that was used as weapon storehouse by the Uchiha and is inhabited by some old lady, her granddaughter, and their cats.
** It's fairly indicative that fake spoilers claimed {{spoiler|Zetsu and Madara}} showed up to help {{spoiler|Sasuke}} with ''a fucking tank'' and people '''actually believed them'''.
*** Why not? They already had a massively armored train in the first movie.
*** More notably it was a train with a [[Gatling Good|crank-operated gatling kunai gun]] along its whole length. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO2Xf-xmcGc Like this.]
** The civilian sector seems very much like the 20th century, with plastics and various machinery, including occasional small, fat monitors.
** Perhaps one of the most hilarious demonstrations comes in the Kage Summit arc, when [https://web.archive.org/web/20120807031219/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-460/page005.html it is made apparent] that the [[Samurai]] of the Land of Iron, who wear plate armor and use short swords, ''are using radio communicators under their helmets''.
*** Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and Kakashi use radio earphones to communicate much earlier when hunting for a lost cat.
** To top all of the above, the latest chapters showed the feudal lords, that rule the Countries the ninja villiges are located in, having a videoconference!
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** India has a thoroughly modern military, with an Aircraft carrier, an indigenously designed Main Battle Tank, a joint produced 4.5th generation jet fighter, nuclear weapons and... British Lee-Enfield rifles, a design that is 114 years old, yet still in active service (though not as a front-line weapon).
*** A similar example is the Colt M1911 pistol. Yes, it's been produced and used both in military and police service ''for 100 years !''
*** The [[wikipedia:Comparison of the AK-47 and M16|AK-47]] and its variants became the standard for [[Warsaw Pact|USSR and its allies]] and client states soon after the mass production started. A journalist in Afghanistan saw people using AK-47's that had been made in 1953. This was after 2008, the same rifle had stayed combat worthy for over 50 years. It may be mediocre as a weapon, but it proven to be superior in reliability and logistics. [
** A lot of [[Cold War]] era military hardware, including all Soviet, was made with possibility of nuclear war in mind. Which means hideous levels of shielding and EMP resistant designs in general. E.g. a digital anti-air missile may predict evasions better, is less prone to chasing Sun reflections, etc, but EMP would have easier time killing it, and even if hardware survives, logical state would not - MCU will almost certainly glitch and freeze, and by the time auto-reboot circuit could notice it would be irrelevant. While an analog missile ("piloted" by a few operational amplifiers) subjected to a pulse too weak to melt wiring most likely would momentarily waver, and that's it.
** The [[wikipedia:Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25#Western intelligence and the MiG-25|Mig-25]] uses vacuum tubes since they are more resilent to EMP attacks, are easier to replace, are more tolerant of temperature extremes, and give the Smerch-A radar a 600 kilowatt output.
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** The [[wikipedia:Ferguson rifle|breech loading rifle]] is also rather older than you might think. As surprisingly is [[wikipedia:Repeating rifle|Repeating weapon]].
** Arguably due to government control. We could build more sophisticated weapons, (self guided bullets anyone?), but who would we sell them to?
* Looking at a modern example, the [https://web.archive.org/web/20100819103813/http://world.guns.ru/assault/as94-e.htm TKB-022PM]. Designed 1962 by one German A. Korobov, this wild weapon is fully ambidextrous, has an above barrel forward ejection, and THE shortest "Barrel Length to Total Length" ratio of any weapon in history at "0.79-to-1.00" or 415mm to 525mm. The [http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm Styer AUG Carbine] comes in at only "0.59-to-1.00" or 407mm to 680mm. It also weighs 1.1 lbs less than Styer AUG Carbine, proved three times as accurate as the then in use AKM, and utilized a wood impregnated polymer body. The weapon was all but forgotten by the 70's. This weapon has one of the highest (if not the highest) BL:TL ratios among assault rifles. The closest would be the [http://world.guns.ru/assault/as41-e.htm FN F2000], designed in the year 1995, weighing 7.4-7.9 lbs, and with a ratio of only 0.58-to-1.00.
** If the weapon truly was that good, then it would have been adopted or copied, period. Having a ridiculously high barrel/overall length ratio is NOT a good thing; it becomes unwieldy, difficult to reload, and presents other concerns about the functioning of the weapon. The Soviets had concerns about its reliability in storage, combat conditions, and from abuse. Modern bullpup firearms do not place the magazine at the butt of the weapon because it becomes difficult to reload and use from a prone position, among other reasons.
** For a more clear-cut example, consider the [[wikipedia:Enfield EM2|Enfield EM-2]] which was actually being introduced in 1951 before being scuppered by the introduction of the 7.62 NATO standard. As bullpup, intermediate-caliber assault rifle with a built in optical sight it sounds, and looks, [[wikipedia:SA80|oddly familiar]] to something over thirty years younger.
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** During the late [[Renaissance]] Europe, the primitive rocket (propelling either an explosive charge or an arrow) was widespread. Cannons were heavy, expensive, needed many horses or oxen to move them, needed cast metal, which was hard to manufacture with 16th century technology. Rockets were cheap contraptions of wood, paper and black gunpowder. As the cannon technology improved throughout the 17th and 18th century with State and royal backing and financing, the accurate cannon become the weapon of choice and the inaccurate rocket a toy for fireworks.
* [[Leonardo da Vinci]] (which I am convinced means Leonardo The Awesome, reality and Italian be damned) designed a hang-glider, but never built it. "So what?" I hear you cry. It was recently recreated for 'Leonardo's Dream Machines'(February 2010). Not only did it work, it neatly beat the Wright brothers by 400 years, clocking a higher altitude, flight time and distance to boot. His blueprints also had designs for a tank, a machine gun, and a sort of rocket-launcher designed for boats.
** That's a bit unfair comparison, though. Wright's flyer was first ''[[wikipedia:Otto Lilienthal|powered]],[http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/helicopter/history.shtml piloted], heavier-than-air aircraft that [[wikipedia:Samuel Pierpont Langley|didn't crash]] [[wikipedia:Alexander Mozhaysky|on the takeoff]]''. Take out any single word and there would be some aviation pioneer that predated them by decades (or centuries in some cases). And more in the way of this trope example the first flying machine they have built was a copy of a [https://web.archive.org/web/20130602170823/http://www.fi.edu/wright/again/history1_p18991.html ''toy helicopter''] (similar to the "chinese top", but powered by a twisted rubber band) they had... They didn't like too-latinate name ''helicopter'' though, and called these toys "bats".
* The merchant clippers of the 19th century were the most advanced sailships in history, used by Britain and the USA for trading with the most far away colonies or countries in Asia and Oceania... and they only came into existence ''after'' the invention of the steamship liner and their owners and crews were all ''[[Genre Savvy|well aware]]'' about their days being numbered given the more modern competition. Still, they were pretty succesful ''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|until the end of the 19th century]]''. Some late clippers then took the trope to a whole new level, when they were modified to accomodate smaller steam engines for propulsion in case of windless weather.
** In fact, a common piece of equipment on these clippers were small steam engines known as "Steam Donkeys". You could save quite a bit of manpower with a few of these employed along with rope, pullies, blocks and tackles, etc. to do various heavy lifting and manual labor on the deck. So in the age of steam, you had a sailing ship that was partially automated thanks to the use of steam engines.
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