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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* After Kaname is kidnapped in an episode of ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]|Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu,]]'', Sousuke walks into the female gang leader's hideout. An [[Extended Disarming]] later, Sousuke plays the trope for ''all it's worth,'' dangling the gang leader's little brother from the hideout's rafters and rattling off a list of the "most precious things" of all the other gang members (sickly mothers, little sisters, exotic fish, etc.), causing them to disperse in tears.
** {{spoiler|Then, when Kaname is released, Sousuke reveals that he'd bribed the little brother to play along. We're not sure how much he was joking about the rest, though...}}
* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', a great manga scene shows Ed trying to quit his job, but then the Fuhrer King casually remarks about Ed's "nice childhood friend Winry", who of course Ed has fairly intense feelings for. Averted when Kimblee makes a similar comment to Ed, but is honestly saying that he just thinks Winry is nice.
* In ''[[Death Note]]'', [[The Mafia]] {{spoiler|kidnap Sayu, Light's little sister, and tell it to her father with a speech to this effect.}}
* Subverted [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|awesomely]] in ''[[Zettai Karen Children]]''. The Normal People, who have The Children in an [[Psychic Static|ECM]] field try to get Minamoto's computer password by threatening Kaoru, {{spoiler|''[[Memetic Mutation|just as Minamoto planned]]''. The password Minamoto told them was actually a trigger for an emergency ECCM unit, freeing Kaoru to use her powers.}}
** Since "ECM" and {{spoiler|"ECCM"}} are pretty obscure acronyms and sound pretty similar: The ECM is an [[Anti-Magic]] field, {{spoiler|the ECCM is an Anti Anti Magic field.}}
* In ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho]]'', {{spoiler|[[Magnificent Bastard|King Yomi]]}} managed to do this on [[The Smart Guy|Kurama]] and get away with it, revealing that not only had he already done extensive research on Kurama and his [[Morality Pet|human family]], but that he'd taken measures to {{spoiler|[[Blackmail|ensure that Kurama will be forced to work for him]]}}.
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'''Kurama''': You bastard... }}
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
 
== Comic Books ==
* Ever since the Green Goblin was revived in the late 1990s, he's done this to [[Spider-Man]] on a seemingly annual basis. Unlike some villains on this page, Osborn already has a loved one's death under his belt (Gwen Stacy), so when he threatens Mary Jane, or May, or anybody else Peter cares for, Spidey can't afford to hope it's just a bluff.
** In an excellent story arc in 2002, however, Peter finally DID realize it was just a bluff, when {{spoiler|he came within an inch of killing the Goblin and Osborn tearfully told him to go ahead.}} Peter, realizing that Osborn is so miserable he's stooped to doing stuff like this just for the ''attention'', just walked away. And when Osborn yelled that by this time tomorrow all his loved ones will be dead, [[Not Afraid of You Anymore|Peter said "Go right ahead", and left.]]
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* Played straight in ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]''. Rorschach is in prison, in solitary. Crime boss Big Figure (who Rorschach sent to jail) wants to have a little chat. The guard isn't supposed to let him through... so Big Figure starts making friendly conversation about the guard's wife and kids.
 
== [[Fan Works]] ==
 
== Fan Works ==
* In ''[[Kyon: Big Damn Hero]]'', Mori asks enemy esper Kyouko how her grandfather is in Osaka. She immediately gains a look of barely concealed terror.
 
== [[Film]] ==
 
== Film ==
* Frank Nitti threatens Eliot Ness's family in this manner, in ''[[The Untouchables]]''. "Nice house."
* This is how Kobayashi keeps the protagonists working for Soze in ''[[The Usual Suspects]]''.
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** The man later tries it again—only this time, after he makes his threatening comments, the main character's son does a less subtle version of this trope by putting a shotgun in his face.
* ''[[Die Hard]]'': "That's a very nice suit. It would be a shame to ruin it."
* The villain in ''[[The Lincoln Lawyer]]'' uses this.
{{quote|Your daughter, Hayley, she's very pretty. She has soccer practice on Saturday?}}
* A deleted scene from the movie ''[[After the Sunset]]'' has the local gangster telling professional thief Max, "I love the view of the water from your house." Max corrects him, "You mean the view of my house from the water" (which actually isn't much better, as both lines indicate that he knows where Max lives). The gangster assures him that his first statement was correct, leaving Max to worry about his and his fiancee's safety should he tangle with the man.
* In ''[[The Sentinel]]'', the villain outright threatens his henchman when he tries to renege on their plan to assassinate the president. "We're not going to kill ''you''. We're going to kill ''her''." (holds up picture of man's wife) "And then we're going to kill her." (holds up picture of man's daughter) "And then we're going to kill her." (holds up picture of man's other daughter.)
 
== [[Literature]] ==
 
== Literature ==
* Subverted in the [[Backstory]] to the ''[[Discworld]]'' novels, where the basically-good Bad Guy (the Patrician) uses it on ''really'' Bad Guys (the heads of various criminal gangs) after persuading them to form a Thieves' Guild that ''regulates'' crime (more or less turning it into an official, ''legal'' profession), for the purpose of reminding them what can happen if they don't honor the deal:
{{quote|"I know who you are, he said. I know where you live. I know what kind of horse you ride. I know where your wife has her hair done. I know where your lovely children are, how old are they now, my doesn't time fly, I know where they play. So you won't forget about what we agreed, will you? And he smiled.
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* People like that often wander into Aziraphale's book shop in ''[[Good Omens]]''. However, once they've been bade a polite farewell, they never ever come back. Crowley also successfully subverts this trope to persuade Aziraphale to help him stop the Apocalypse, not by threatening but by pointing out how many nifty Earthly things will be lost if the world ends.
* In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Nation]]'', one of the [[The Men in Black|Gentlemen of Last Resort]] casually mentions another character's birthplace, mother, and several other minor details. That character mentions that it felt like the start of a threat, and the fact that no actual threat followed was not comforting.
* In a non-Pratchett involved example, Payne Harrison's ''[[Storming Intrepid]]'' ends with {{spoiler|Aa meeting between the US President, the Vice-President (President-Elect), and the General Secretary of the Soviet Union, formerly the head of the KGB and [[The Chessmaster]] behind the events of the plot.}} Said plot has revolved around an anti-nuke [[Kill Sat]] that the Americans have. {{spoiler|The GS says that if the US insists on rebuilding the destroyed weapon, Russia will simply have to find alternate delivery methods. Then he shows a KGB colonel next to a red, white, and blue barrel in Red Square. And another photo with the same man, in normal clothes, next to the barrel in Washington, DC. He notes how ''small'' it's possible to make nuclear bombs nowadays, small enough to fit in a barrel...}}
* One book in the ''[[Myth Adventures]]'' series turns this sort of sideways when the local Mob wants to get a foothold in the Deveel Bazaar, and has Skeeve & Co. extort "protection money" in roughly this fashion. And then, when it becomes clear that such an exclusive contract would not be mutually beneficial, Skeeve & Co start setting up the sort of "accidents" that the protection money was supposed to prevent. Naturally, the Deveels are Not Happy about these incidents (after all, they ''paid'') and start demanding refunds from the Mob for substandard protection.
* In Kim Newman's "Soho Golem", a local gangland boss attempts to secure psychic detective Richard Jeperson's cooperation in the investigation of the rather horrific supernatural execution of one of his colleagues by intimidating him with a threat of this nature. Jeperson's response is to cheerfully laugh in his face and to inform the gangster that his threats are meaningless; not only has Jeperson come across too many nastier things in his time to be intimidated by some thug, but the supernatural nature of the threat mean the rules the gangster lives by no longer apply here, and he's dependent on Jeperson's goodwill to remain in the land of the living, not the other way around.
* inIn "the trialchildren's novel ''[[Trial By Journal]]'' by journal"Kate Klise, the bad guy uses this to get the wrongfully accused guy's lawyer to quit. she quits to protect her two kids.
* This is actually subverted in the original novel of ''[[The Godfather]]''. Everyone in the neighbourhood fears Don Fanucci because of his alleged ties to a more powerful criminal organization. Vito Corleone correctly dismisses this because Fanucci does all of his own collecting instead of sending [[Mooks]]. Thus, instead of buckling under to Fanucci's demands, Vito confronts and kills him instead, knowing there will be no repercussions.
* In ''[[Harry Potter/Harry Potter and the seventhDeathly [[Hallows|Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]] book'', {{spoiler|this was how the Death Eaters got Luna's father to sell out Harry.}}
* In the early 20th century novel ''A Candle in Her Room,'' the third-generation protagonist Nina finds herself confronting the wicked Dido. The person Melissa loves most in the world is her great-aunt Melissa, who became her guardian after the deaths of her parents, and in order to compel Nina to do what she wants, Dido starts talking about what a terrible thing it would be if elderly Aunt Liss were to stumble on the stairs or something equally dangerous.
* The Romulans specialize in this in the ''[[Star Trek Novel Verse]]'', particularly the "nice family" variant. D'deridex pulls it on Valdore in the ''[[Star Trek Enterprise Relaunch]]'', Sela on a Kevratan rebel in the [[Star Trek: The Next Generation Relaunch]], and Koval on Pardek in the novel ''Rogue'' (according to a later story in [[Star Trek: Titan]], Koval actually went through with the threat and murdered Pardek's young daughter).
* ''[[A Mere Interlude]]'' by [[Thomas Hardy]]:
{{quote|'I will intercede with my husband, ma'am,' she said. 'He's a true man if rightly managed; and I'll beg him to consider your position. 'Tis a very nice house you've got here,' she added, glancing round, 'and well worth a little sacrifice to keep it.'}}
 
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
 
== Live-Action TV ==
* [[Magnificent Bastard|Scorpius]] from ''[[Farscape]]'' pulls a rather aggressive version of this trope by forcibly showing [[The Hero|John]] a hologram of Earth and [[Kick the Dog|threatening]] [[Earthshattering Kaboom|to send a fleet to destroy it]] if he doesn't start co-operating. {{spoiler|Despite this, even after John foils his plans, Scorpius gets a rather sympathetic scene where he points out that petty revenge against John is pointless if the [[Freudian Excuse|revenge he really wanted]] was out of his grasp.}}
* The protection version is sent up in ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'', when Dino and Luigi Vercotti try this with an Army base.
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* Played with in episode 4.08 of ''[[Sons of Anarchy]]''. Lieutenant Roosevelt remarks that Jax has a beautiful family and naturally, it would be a shame if anything happened to them. However, he's not threatening Jax, just emphasizing that getting into the drug business could cause his loved ones serious harm - by this point the Sons have already been witness to multiple assasination attempts by their cartel's competition.
* The episode "Damned If You Don't" of ''[[American Gothic]]'' inverts this trope: when Buck comes to collect on a debt, and mentions him having "a lovely daughter...how old is she now, fifteen?" Carter believes (helped along by the sheriff's smarmy turn from [[Affably Evil]] to [[Squick|downright pedophilic]]) that this is a blatant threat to his daughter's life if he turns Buck down—but all the sheriff is doing is innocently offering her a job at the precinct. Of course, when Carter ''does'' turn him down and opts for a different means of paying the debt, the daughter, his wife, and his entire livelihood are indeed threatened...with tragic consequences.
* Parodied in a Swedish cop comedy show called ''[[S.W.I.P Snutarna]]''. One [[Story Arc]] parodies ''[[The Godfather]]'' with one family being an apple mafia and their neighbours wanting to keep their apple trees (includes a hilarious scene that parodies the horse head, where a man wakes up to find his bed filled with apples). Anyhow, one member of the apple mafia family threatens the neighbours. "''Lovely apple trees you've got. It would be a shame if someone was to... [[Inherently Funny Words|scrump]].''"
** "Scrump" may be inherently funny, but it's also a British pastime, generally involving small children pinching apples from people's trees, hence its relevance.
* Lana Lang in S6 of ''[[Smallville]]'' does this with one of Lex Luthor's scientists with regards to his family, home and livelihood. Of course, Lana being [[Creator's Pet|Lana]], the scientist shows up later in the series to help her get superpowers...''on purpose''.
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* Schillinger does this to Beecher in ''[[Oz]]'' saying he's got a beautiful wife and kids, forcing Beecher to take the photos he has of his family and tear them up.
* In ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'''s final [[Mirror Universe]] episode, "Smiley" says this about {{spoiler|the Klingon flagship once its shields are down}}.
* Parodied in a ''[[Mad TV]]'' "Miss Swan" sketch. A mobster tries to extort money out of her by threatening her beauty salon. He demonstrates what could happen if she doesn't pay by "accidentally" knocking a glass jar on the floor. However, Miss Swan is such a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] that she finds that to be entertaining, and begins destroying other things in her store for fun. The thug has to quickly step in and stop her before she destroys her television.
* ''[[Law and& Order: UK]]'': James Steel confronts his nemesis, confronting him with irrefutable evidence of his guilt in several murders and urging him to have the decency to plead guilty and not torture the families of his victims with a lengthy trial. The man responds by casually asking, "He's eight, isn't he? Your little boy? Ethan? Gradley Street, Edinburgh. Beautiful house they've got. But busy roads, though. On his walk to school." Although stunned to realize just how much of a [[Complete Monster]] he's dealing with, Steel keeps it together long enough to coldly bid the man farewell and walk out of the room.
 
== [[Theatre]] ==
 
== Theatre ==
* One of the examples given in the song "I Love A Film Cliche" from ''[[A Day in Hollywood, A Night in the Ukraine]]'' is almost the trope name, word-for-word:
{{quote|Nice little shop you got here, Mendoza. Too bad if something was to... happen to it.}}
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
 
* In the 3DO game ''[[Zhadnost]]'', a common thug named Zygi managed to steal a nuclear bomb, and as the announcer is describing him to the game show host, it shows surveillance footage of Zygi "playing" with his new bomb in his house, pretending to be the President of the United States. "You have such a lovely country here. It would be a real... ''shame''... if something happened to it." He pats the bomb while he says this, too.
== Videogames ==
* In the 3DO game ''Zhadnost'', a common thug named Zygi managed to steal a nuclear bomb, and as the announcer is describing him to the game show host, it shows surveillance footage of Zygi "playing" with his new bomb in his house, pretending to be the President of the United States. "You have such a lovely country here. It would be a real... ''shame''... if something happened to it." He pats the bomb while he says this, too.
* In ''[[Silent Hill 4]]'', you get an ominous note under your door reading: "Better check on your neighbor" shortly before {{spoiler|Elaine gets brutally attacked and almost killed}}.
* In ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]'' if you're playing evil you can try and pull this on a merchant. Of course he won't understand you and once you switch to simple threats, will chastise you for not getting right to the point.
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Okay, so ya want originality. Well, let me tell you dis is 1922 and right now dis line is very original. }}
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
 
== Webcomics ==
* Millie from ''[[Ozy and Millie]]'' [http://ozyandmillie.org/2002/03/04/ozy-and-millie-866/ can't quite pull this off.]
** [http://ozyandmillie.org/2003/08/20/ozy-and-millie-1246/ The government can.]
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** [https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0786.html Later] in [[The Rant]]:
{{quote|That's the one mistake PCs often make. Why raid a cave system full of goblins, slaughtering all before you at considerable risk to life and limb, when you can simply rock up to the front door, make pleasant conversation about how nice a cave system it is, and how it'd be a right shame if anything were to happen to it, while meaningfully picking your teeth with a two-handed sword?}}
* In ''[[Dinosaur Comics]]'', [http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2186 T. Rex] apparently says this kind of thing all the time out of genuine concern, unaware of how it sounds.
 
== [[Web Originals]] ==
* ''[[That Guy With The Glasses|Paw]]'': Paw adds this subtext to a scene in his [[Let's Play]] of ''[[King's Quest V]]''.
{{quote|'''Graham:''' This is a lovely little shop you have here.
'''Paw:''' Shame if anything were to ''happen'' to it! }}
* ''[[Key of Awesome]]'': "I'd hate for something bad to happen to your family..."
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
 
* Parodied in ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', when Homer threatens Mr. Burns: "Nice office you have here. It would be a shame if somebody... DIDN'T'didn't USEuse Aa COASTERcoaster!''" Mr. Burns [[Cool and Unusual Punishment|appears to be truly shaken]].
== Western Animation ==
* Parodied in ''[[The Simpsons]]'', when Homer threatens Mr. Burns: "Nice office you have here. It would be a shame if somebody... DIDN'T USE A COASTER!" Mr. Burns [[Cool and Unusual Punishment|appears to be truly shaken]].
** In another episode, Homer threatens the manager of a beauty salon by hurling a hairnet to the ground and unscrewing the lid off of a jar. The manager is perplexed, especially as it is only after these things have happened that Homer explains his intent: he wants the salon to honor Marge's coupon for two free hair streaks, "or a lot more jars are going to be unscrewed."
** And again when Homer hires a private investigator, Dexter Colt, to find information about Lisa. Dexter comments that it would be a shame if Principal Skinner's papers were shuffled and does so. Skinner responds that he could easily put them back, to which Dexter staples the now mismatched pile. Cue a [[Big No]] from Skinner.
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* ''[[Freakazoid!]]'' had a one-shot villain named Arms Akimbo, an old-style gangster who offered "Oops Insurance"; whenever the shopkeeper asked "What's 'Oops Insurance'?", he'd knock something over and say "Oops". This culminates with a [[Stock Footage]] building [[Stuff Blowing Up|exploding]], [[Crowning Moment of Funny|followed by his usual "Oops".]]
 
== [[Real Life]] ==
 
== Real Life ==
* In April 2006, the Motion Picture Association of America actually used this in a letter to Swedish State Secretary Dan Eliasson, with thinly-veiled threats of trade reprisals and/or a smear campaign against Sweden.
* [[Rooster Teeth]]'s Geoff Ramsey recalled this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxl1eX11hHk coming from his young daughter], coupling this trope with [[Troubling Unchildlike Behavior]].
* This is how some commentators [https://twitter.com/sams1stdaughter/status/1187796927125032960 characterized] [[Donald Trump]]'s [https://3ci6gd82qqe3lh3ugujrds6j-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/18918566_web1_191010-BIR-trump140-HEROS57.jpg efforts to bully] [https://www.noozhawk.com/article/daryl_cagle_ukraine_extortion_and_donald_trump_20190925 other countries] [https://3ci6gd82qqe3lh3ugujrds6j-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/18918566_web1_191010-BIR-trump140-HEROS45.jpg into doing things for him] during his term as President of the United States.
 
 
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