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** It's worth noting that these are not universal; it depends on the game. And, significantly, the computer does ''not'' cheat dice rolls, significant because almost every spell has a chance of inflicting a status effect.
* [[Cool vs. Awesome]]: Angels vs. Demons is an understatement for the series. Since [[All Myths Are True]], think of the possibilities.
* [[CouncilofCouncil of Angels]] - Notable in that, from SMT 2 onward, {{spoiler|they practically become the ''[[Butt Monkey|cosmic Butt Monkeys]]'' of the franchise; in SMT 2 they're basically abandoned by God and are running Tokyo Millennium in a hilariously inept fashion and orchestrated the creation of the Messiah and crew in the first place, which blew up in their faces when Aleph ''carved their shit in''; then, in ''[[Digital Devil Saga]]'' 2, they show up as bonus bosses - talking about the events of SMT 2, no less - except that now they've been put into mutated human bodies and hunger for the blood and flesh of man just like any other demon. You'd think they'd give the Big Man the finger after all that.}}
** This is, of course, played straight in SMT 1, where {{spoiler|they become quite powerful allies if you're on the Law path, and attempt to stop you if you're on any other path; Seraph Michael serves as the game's penultimate, hardest boss in that case}}. Also played perfectly straight in ''[[Devil Survivor (Video Game)|Devil Survivor]]'', {{spoiler|where Remiel who serves Metatron and the Big Man himself are far less assholish than franchise standard and will help you out unless you're on on the blatantly chaotic routes}}.
* [[Crapsack World]]: [[Shin Megami Tensei I]] starts out a mild version of this, and gets a lot worse. [[Shin Megami Tensei II]] has this as the default state since it follows the Neutral Path of the first game, though it can either get worse or better. [[Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne]] goes the route of the first game, but can be reversed, or made even worse. ''[[Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey (Video Game)|Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey]]'' has the potential to become this, but can be averted, although the gameplay setting is basically this. The [[Persona]] games are set in [[Crap Saccharine World]] setting that can be made a [[Crapsack World]], and in the first half of the second game duology this actually does happen briefly {{spoiler|in the ending}}, though the second half reverses this somewhat (though the fourth game lets you totally avert this in the true ending and actually improve the world setting from the game world default). [[Devil Survivor (Video Game)|Devil Survivor]] can turn into this or be averted, depending on your choices.