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* After constantly asserting that the devil basically controls the world, and that demons exist for the sole purpose of corrupting people, out of the blue we're excpected to believe that [http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3337 demons are a poor, innocent, unjustly oppressed minority]{{broken link}}, for no reason other than to make us feel sorry for Fuchsia?
** He only controls certain aspects of the world, namely the corporate sector. The things he doesn't control are pretty open with their hatred for demons. Remember that during that time, Fuschia was in the middle of her character development, trying to change her ways. At that point, IIRC, she was in the [[Anti-Villain]] / [[Punch Clock Villain]] stage of her change. Those who are familiar with redemption tropes know that things like that can be very discouraging to those seeking it.
** Also, the Devil controlling anything doesn't mean his underlings get anything out of the deal. He's the Devil, after all. He's not very nice.
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* The mere existance of that short bitchy femnazi riding around. I really thought this comic had matured beyond such juvenile "[[Family Guy]]" characters, Seymour's fanaticism nonwithstanding.
** The fact that her and the effects of her actions have become the focus of the strip doesn't help her case either.
* Ezekial and Ariel [http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=102 were bleeding all over Crim]{{broken link}} [[Fridge Horror|in the "Dig" arc?]]
* It is appalling really, how low Seymour has sunk. In the beginning he was insufferable, but had ups and downs like everyone else. But fast forward some years and suddenly every single frickin' character has pulled back their [[Jerkass]] tendencies, if not undergone a complete personality overhaul, [[My God, What Have I Done?]], or [[Heel Face Turn]] EXCEPT him. even Baby Blue gets [[Jerkass Woobie]] scenes, even Lil' Evil has [[Pet the Dog]] moments, but Seymour has reached the levels of [[The Fundamentalist]] and [[Flanderization]] that Seth [[Mac Farlene]] needed to publicly apologize for. By the time Satan Bomfed him, it wasn't even [[Karmic Justice]], it was shooting a rabid dog in the leg and leaving him to bleed out.
** You're obviously forgetting that Seymour has [[Pet the Dog]] moments as well. His entire relationship with the newest devil girl is the embodiment of pet the dog - but since it's SEYMOUR I guess that people just don't care, right? I don't know, let's see. Instead of instantly writing her off as a savage monster like he had with Fuchsia or zenzapping the demonhood out of her without her consent like Slick and Monique did - he actually tried TALKING to her, helping her, as well as showing concern for her well-being in general. And she was happy to see him, so we can assume that even though he did accidentally say something offending to her - which he realized immediately after he had already said it and tried correcting himself - she didn't hold anything against him. Because he was still rather pleasant to her.
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***** More of a child than a ditz, I would say. One of her main points seems to be this innocent, childlike interpretation of everything, regardless of 'good' or 'evil' tags. Anyway, this issue is obviously a very subjective experience; for me, while I see what is loved about her character (and, like I said, agree that she is both adorable and cool), the brainwwashing thing always casts a shadow. I look at her, and I always wonder who she used to be.
**** I'd always gotten the impression that it was the intention of the artist for Tangerine to be the [[Grotesque Cute]]/[[Lightmare Fuel]] character of the strip. Like, everything the OP pointed ''was'' supposed to occur to us but she's so ditzy that we're a lot less scared than we should be.
* [http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4198 Strip #4198 "Divinity School"]{{broken link}} is pretty weird. Is it just a metaphor? A throwaway [[Alternate Universe]]? After the Li'l E [[Retcon]], it's conceivable that this is a [[Retcon]] (and thus perhaps a [[Wham! Episode]]) too, but it's probably more a [[Non Sequitur Episode]].
** I wasn't really sure at first either but re-reading it I think it's a flashback.
** This troper was under the impression it was a flashback from the start, with the brown haired boy as jesus, the blue haired girl as fuchsia pre-bomf, and the red-skinned boy as well, satan.