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Much like how [[Anti -Hero|Anti-Heroes]] can be vastly different from each other, so can [[Anti -Villain|Anti-Villains]]. This scale is a measure of how evil an [[Anti -Villain]] is. Inversely related to [[Sliding Scale of Antagonist Vileness]]. Can contribute to [[Sliding Scale of Villain Threat]] and [[Sliding Scale of Villain Effectiveness]]. Compare with [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes]].
 
Type I, Type II, and Type III usually can be evil, although they average out at a darker shade of grey. Type IV characters are a [[A Lighter Shade of Grey|light grey]] at their worst, and [[Good Versus Good|good characters aimed at greater goods]] at their best.
 
=== Type I: Noble [[Anti -Villain]] ===
Although he chooses to be evil and may in fact [[Card -Carrying Villain|embrace his villainous reputation]], when the time comes for him to walk the walk, he turns away. This type of anti villain has a set of standards, certain lines that he will never cross. As such, he is the first one to say [[Even Evil Has Standards]] when faced with someone who offends said code of conduct. Unlikely to [[Kick the Dog]] but will [[Pet the Dog]]. Often accompanied by a [[Morality Pet]]. Alternatively, villainy is just a job to put food on the table, thus it's never personal. Placed higher on the evilness scale than type 2 because villainy is a choice for them rather than something that they are driven to. The type 1 is the common definition of the [[Anti -Villain]]. Those in this category may become true villains if they try to overcome their restraints. Ironically, despite being the most villainous level of [[Anti -Villain]], type 1 tends to be the most stable, with very little change.
 
The defining Trope for this type of Anti-Villain would be the '''[[Noble Demon]]'''.
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Related Tropes: [[Hitman With a Heart]], [[Minion With an F In Evil]], [[Would Not Shoot a Civilian]], [[Never Hurt an Innocent]], [[Even Evil Has Standards]], [[Wouldn't Hurt a Child]], [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]], a darker [[Noble Top Enforcer]].
 
{{examples|Examples}}
 
== [[Anime and Manga]] ==
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* Most of the characters of ''[[Baccano (Light Novel)|Baccano]]''
* Greed of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]''. He may be a selfish bastard, but he cares deeply for his followers.
* Dark Schneider of ''[[Bastard!! (Manga)|Bastard]]''.
* In ''[[One Piece (Manga)|One Piece]]'', we have Seven Warlords of the Sea Dracule Mihawk and Bartholomew Kuma.
* Androids 16, 17 and 18 <ref>in the normal timeline of course.</ref> of ''[[Dragon Ball (Manga)|Dragon Ball]] Z''.
** Goku's father Bardock starts out as this before becoming a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type V Anti-Hero]] when facing [[Complete Monster|Freeza]].
* En of ''[[Dorohedoro (Manga)|Dorohedoro]]''.
* Eruka of ''[[Soul Eater (Manga)|Soul Eater]]''
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** Azuma as well
* Kintolesky from ''[[Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star (Anime)|Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star]]''
* Viral from ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Anime)|Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' is quite honorable, despite always wanting to enact revenge on Kamina for tarnishing his reputation and pride.[[hottip:*:Eventually, {{spoiler|after Simon convinces him to make a [[Heel Face Turn]], Viral becomes a Type II [[Anti -Hero]].}} Here are several examples:
** Just after the [[Hot Springs Episode]], he not-so-politely asks the heroes to [[Please Put Some Clothes On]] and allows them to arm themselves before fighting him.
** When he confronts Simon and Yoko over {{spoiler|Kamina's whereabouts, and eventually accepts Simon as his new rival}}, he agrees to a fair one-on-one duel.
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* Lord Vetinari of ''[[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]]''.
* "Gentleman" Johnny Marcone & Lara Raith of ''[[The Dresden Files (Literature)|The Dresden Files]]''.
* ''[[Artemis Fowl (Literature)|Artemis Fowl]]'' (as a [[Villain Protagonist]]) and by extension, [[Battle Butler|Butler]], but only in the early books before becoming more [[Anti -Hero]] than Villain.
* [[Badass Preacher|Hrathen]] in ''[[Elantris]]''.
* Napoleon in the ''[[Temeraire]]'' series. Indeed he often comes off as better than the people running Britain.
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* Wolfgang Krauser of ''[[Fatal Fury]]''.
* For a short time, Anji Mito from ''[[Guilty Gear]]'', crossing with Type IV. Unlike [[Blaz Blue|Litchi]] below, Anji has no desperation or pressure to make him join That Man and pretty much joins out of complete, unpushed free will (and HIGH level of curiosity) rather than being forced. However, despite all that, he's still friendly as ever to even That Man's nemesis (Sol), tried to befriend May at one of her endings, and in any moment he met Baiken, after one fight, [[Heel Face Turn|he calls it quits]].
* The Bonne Family from ''[[Megaman Legends]]'' series. Tron Bonne especially, as she even becomes a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type V]] [[Anti -Hero]] in certain spin-off and crossover games.
* Pre-[[Heel Face Turn]] Axel Almer in ''[[Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]''. He's still dedicated in kicking the good guys' ass, but he's more of a [[Noble Demon]] and his true enemy is actually [[Complete Monster|Beowulf]] and is actually preventing him to 're-materialize' in that world after seeing the brutality Beowulf caused in his world.
* [[Street Fighter|Sagat]] before ''Street Fighter Alpha 3'', he willingly became a subordinate of Bison in order to get stronger and embraced his status as one of Shadoloo's Four Devas. But over time, he developed into a [[Noble Demon]] who is disgusted by Bison's more underhanded methods of granting strength and eventually ditches him for good to resume a more healthy rivalry with Ryu.
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* Avalanche of ''[[X Men Evolution]]''
* Red X of ''[[Teen Titans (Animation)|Teen Titans]]''
* Gaz of ''[[Invader Zim]]'', in addition to being a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type V]] [[Anti -Hero]].
* Duncan of ''[[Total Drama Island (Animation)|Total Drama Island]]'', as well as a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type V]] [[Anti -Hero]].
* Ultra-Humanite in ''[[Justice League]]'' is quite morally ambiguous for a villain. While he does a series of serious crimes, like blowing up a modern art museum because he despises Modernism, he also tends to help the heroes in certain occasions. A particular example is in the [[Christmas Episode]] where he helps the Flash giving a desired toy to a group of orphans.
* Despite considering himself an official villain, Puma Loco from ''[[El Tigre]]'' puts his family in first place than his criminal schemes (at least most of the time), and is often seen helping his grandson Manny and his son White Pantera in beating up the other criminals of Miracle City.
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=== Type II: Woobie [[Anti -Villain]] ===
It's obvious that these types of villains don't WANT to be evil; circumstances just make them out to be. They may act out of [[Undying Loyalty]] or [[Love Martyr|love for someone]] or maybe they're simply fighting for their own survival. Others are [[Break the Cutie|broken cuties]] who have snapped and want to end their suffering by destroying everything. Usually they are suffering from their alignment. The characters garners our sympathy not because their goal is good but because we can see how the [[Crapsack World]] made them the way they are. Often suffer from a damaged psyche. [[Anti -Villain|Anti-Villains]] in this category may become true villains, but they're also just as likely to turn into an Anti-Hero.
 
The defining trope for this type of Anti-Villain would be a '''[[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]'''.
 
Related Tropes: [[Sympathetic Murderer]], [[Jerkass Woobie]], [[Tragic Villain]], [[My Master Right or Wrong]], and a typical [[Dark Magical Girl]].
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** {{spoiler|Zeref, Urtear, Jellal and Meredy}}
* Pegasus J. Crawford from ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (Anime)|Yu-Gi-Oh]]'', who, like Mr. Freeze, is only evil so he can resurrect his dead wife.
* Darcia the Third from ''[[WolfsWolf's Rain (Manga)|Wolfs Rain]]''.
* Sasuke, Nagato/Pain, and possibly Kakuzu, from [[Naruto]].
* Alyssa from the [[Mai Hi ME]] manga, and {{spoiler|Yukariko}} from the anime.
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== [[Comic Books]] ==
* Mr. Freeze in ''[[Batman]]'' [[Ret Canon|post-influence from]] [[Batman: theThe Animated Series (Animation)|the animated series]].
** Also, Two-Face from the very start.
* Harry Osborn as the second Green Goblin in ''[[Spider-Man]]''.
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* Big Daddy from [[Kick Ass]] (film version only). He may be a bit mixed with a Type III, but he's more closer to this {{spoiler|once you see what happened to him five years ago}}.
* Magua from ''[[Last of the Mohicans (Film)|Last of the Mohicans]]''.
* [[Tragic Hero|Anakin Skywalker]] / [[Dragon With an Agenda|Darth Vader]] from the ''[[Star Wars]]'' prequels, [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] and [[Love Martyr]] who turns to [[The Dark Side]] because [[Love Makes You Crazy]].
** Though by the time of the Original Trilogy, he had become a [[Card -Carrying Villain|full-fledged villain]], with seemingly nothing to make him sympathetic again... at least until [[Redemption Equals Death|the final act]] of ''[[Return of the Jedi]]''.
* Doctor Octopus, The Sandman, and (of course) Harry Osborn in ''[[Spider-Man (Film)|Spider-Man 2 and 3]]''.
* [[Tragic Villain|Loki]] from ''[[Thor]]'' was doing the wrong things for the right reasons. {{spoiler|He lets the Jotun's into Asgard to prevent Thor from becoming king because he is not ready, he brings them back to Asgard so as to appear to save his father from an assassination attempt, and then attempts to destroy Jotunheim so as to rid Asgard of that threat. At it's heart, it was all an attempt to prove to his father that he was just as worthy of his pride and affection as Thor.}}
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* Murtagh and Thorn from ''[[Inheritance Cycle]].''
* Sandor "The Hound" Clegane from ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire (Literature)|A Song of Ice and Fire]]''.
* The "monster" from ''[[Frankenstein (Literature)|Frankenstein]]''. He actually recounts how all his thoughts were extremely noble when he had just been hiding and listening to people, but when he actually tried to interact with them and was feared, he became bitter and nasty. Of course, this slides it towards [[Informed Attribute]], but the actual events in the novel also give good enough grounds to say this trope applies, especially when the protagonist Dr. Frankenstein is [[Anti -Hero|not very heroic]] himself.
 
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* Ben from ''[[Lost (TV)|Lost]]'' usually bounces between this type and Type I and Type III.
* The Master from ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' fits into this trope given that the only reason he does what he does is because he's been driven absolutely insane by the drums in his head, and that the drumming was put there deliberately
** Modern series ''only'', in the classic series he is a [[Card -Carrying Villain]] to the core.
* Nicci in ''[[Legend of the Seeker]],'' though in [[Sword of Truth|the books]] she's more of a Type III.
* Willow Rosenberg of ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' in the sixth season.
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* Jack Krauser is retroactively implied to be of this trope in ''[[Resident Evil 4]]'', as Darkside Chronicles explains that his reasons for turning to Wesker was because that was the only option left for him to do the thing he did well at, fighting, after his mission with Leon resulted in him being fired from SOCOM due to an arm injury that never recovered.
* Dr Stahngun/ {{spoiler|Dimitri Allen}} in ''[[Professor Layton and The Unwound Future]]''. He's only villainous in order to bring back the woman he loved. Layton even acknowledges he'd never go so far as to kill anyone.
* ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]: Mask of the Betrayer'' features the Founder, pretty much the definition of [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]. She inflicted the [[Player Character]] with a soul-eating curse and set into motion events that threaten the very fabric of the [[Forgotten Realms]], all to save her lover from [[And I Must Scream|the Wall of the Faithless]].
* Yasha from ''[[Asura's Wrath]]'' is a combination of this, a Type 4, and Stoic Woobie, who is legimately the one of the only deities that turned on Asura that feels legitimate regret fro the way they treat humanity after betraying asura, by forcing them into a [[Martyrdom Culture]].
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
* In ''151 Hidden Depths'', [http://hiddendepths.smackjeeves.com/comics/1405524/050-diglett/ Diglett] becomes this after evolving into [http://hiddendepths.smackjeeves.com/comics/1407376/051-dugtrio/ Dugtrio]. [[Pint -Sized Powerhouse|Being small]] led him to be rejected from joining the Pokemon Police Force so he proves he's a force to be reckoned with by [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|destroying cities]].
 
== [[Web Original]] ==
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== [[Western Animation]] ==
* Zuko from ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' is somewhere between this and a Type I, before his [[Heel Face Turn]].
* Most of the members of Batman's Rogue's Gallery become this in ''[[Batman: theThe Animated Series (Animation)|Batman the Animated Series]]'', most notably the Mad Hatter, Baby Doll, Clayface, Two-Face, and the aforementioned Mr. Freeze.
** And in the movie, ''[[Batman Mask of the Phantasm]]'', we have the Phantasm{{spoiler|/Andrea Beaumont}}.
* Ethan Bennett, the original Clayface, in ''[[The Batman (Animation)|The Batman]]''.
* Colossus in ''[[X Men Evolution]]''
* Nox of ''[[Wakfu (Animation)|Wakfu]]'', who desperately aims to be [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|Type III]] but is [[Tragic Villain|mostly inhibited by his own delusions]].
* Jack O'Lantern, Nergal and his son Nergal Jr. in ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy]]''.
* Courtney in ''[[Total Drama Island (Animation)|Total Drama Island]]'' becomes this in the later half of the third season.
* The Ice King of ''[[Adventure Time (Animation)|Adventure Time]]'', especially after the revelation that {{spoiler|he [[Was Once a Man|used to be normal]] until he tried an antique crown that resulted in [[Sanity Slippage|a loss of sanity]], along with [[Blessed With Suck|gradually gaining supernatural ice powers and becoming unsightly]]}}, leading to his present self.
* An interesting subversion/deconstruction of this character type can be found in [[Big Bad|Demona]] of ''[[Western Animation]]/Gargoyles''. She's certainly got enough nuance and tragedy in her backstory to qualify her as a [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], but at the same time she has both the motive and means to do probably the most large-scale damage of any villain in the [[Rogues Gallery]] and her obsession with getting revenge for her own pain has blinded her to the fact that she's spent the last milennium just digging herself in deeper.
 
 
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=== Type III: Well-Intentioned [[Anti -Villain]] ===
 
The [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]]. They may believe in a good goal, but use whatever means there are to achieve it. The sympathy the audience can garner for this character comes from the fact that they basically share the same goal as the hero, but are pragmatically, expediently, or pessimistically, ruthless about it. They can very much be conscious about their morally questionable actions, but feel that there is no other way. Common antagonist in [[White and Grey Morality]] scenarios and relatively likely to be redeemed if shown the error of their ways depending on ''how'' "extremist" they are. These [[Anti -Villain|Anti Villains]] may become more malicious true villains, but they are more likely to either stay in this category or possibly morph into a Type II [[Anti -Villain]]. The Type III can also be a revolutionary of some sort, fighting against the main character only due to their affiliation to some government or organization, and usually fighting for a noble cause. Alternatively, [[Obliviously Evil|they may not even realize what they're doing is wrong or making things worse in the first place]].
 
The defining Trope for this type of Anti-Villain would be the '''[[Well -Intentioned Extremist]]''', of course. Might overlap with [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type III Anti-Hero]].
 
Related Tropes: [[Necessarily Evil]], [[Obliviously Evil]].
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== [[Comic Books]] ==
* [[The Punisher]]. Also a Type V on the [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes]].
* Erik Magnus/Erik Lensherr AKA [[Magneto]] of ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]''
* The Adversary in ''[[Fables]]''.
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* Graf Michael Sepperin in ''[[Rosenkreuzstilette]]''.
* {{spoiler|Alister Azimuth}} in ''[[Ratchet and Clank Future A Crack In Time]]''.
** Ironically, he's a borderline [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type 3 Anit-Hero]] while on your side, so he's been on both sides of the spectrum in one game.
* Look no further than Ammon Jerro from ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]''. The man has an army of powerful fiends at his beck and call, murders several people who get in the way of his recovering a [[MacGuffin]], and is canonically [[Neutral Evil]]. {{spoiler|He's not the [[Big Bad]], not even [[The Dragon]]. He's the former court mage of Neverwinter, trying to save Faerûn from the [[Big Bad]] by whatever means necessary. And you get to give him an absolutely ''epic'' [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]].}}
** {{spoiler|The [[Big Bad]] he's opposing, the King of Shadows, can come across as this when you meet the ghosts of people who knew him. He willingly underwent a transformation into a magical golem called The Guardian so he could protect the Illefarn empire, and everything he's done since then, from binding himself to the [[The Dark Side|Shadow Weave]] to waging war on Neverwinter, and all the carnage he's caused, is simply him fulfilling the orders programmed into him.}}
* In [[Arcanum]], {{spoiler|Kerghan is a powerful necromancer who seeks the destruction of all life... because, after centuries of using necromancy to study the place where souls go after death, he's wholeheartedly convinced that since all beings undergo suffering during life, the comparable peace associated with death is a desirable state of existence. This view is backed up by one of your party members, who is likely to have been killed and resurrected during the events of the game.}}
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* Jet from ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]''. He has a good reason to be opposing the Fire Nation, he just takes his grudge way too far.
* Amon from ''[[The Legend of Korra (Animation)|The Legend of Korra]]''.
* Kang the Conqueror in ''[[The Avengers: EarthsEarth's Mightiest Heroes (Animation)|Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes]]'' becomes sort of this. The sole reason why he wants [[Captain America]] dead is because he blames Cap for disrupting the timeline (remember, Cap got preserved in a block of ice in the North Atlantic after an accident in his last mission in the 40's and then was revived to present times by the Avengers), which for an unexplained reason causes the destruction of the world within 10 years and almost erases Kang's wife Ravonna from existence.
* Valerie Gray from ''[[Danny Phantom]]'', if you don't view her as a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|Type III and/or IV]] [[Anti -Hero]].
 
 
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=== Type IV: [[Anti -Villain|"Villain"]] In Name Only ===
 
These characters either lack any villainous traits whatsoever or have so much concern over others that any signs of villainy are nearly completely drowned out. Frequently, these characters are called villains only because they fight against the hero. Basically, these guys are NEVER actively malevolent. They usually have some other reason for opposing the hero besides evil schemes. Ironically, these characters can be extremely dangerous to the hero as their high skill at arms/competence more than makes up for their lack of vileness. Fighting them also poses a moral dilemma which can also sap the hero's morale. It is at this point where an [[Anti -Villain]] starts to blur with the [[Hero Antagonist]]. Having to kill a particularly well liked type 4 in a boss fight can be a [[Player Punch]]. Their deaths are extremely likely to be a [[Tear Jerker]]. These [[Anti -Villain|Anti-Villains]] have virtually no chance of becoming a true villain - in fact, if they did, it would probably mess up the flow of the story.
 
A defining trope for this type of Anti-Villain is the '''[[Designated Villain]]'''.
 
Related Tropes: more benign [[My Country Right or Wrong]] or [[My Master Right or Wrong]], [[Non -Malicious Monster]], [[Punch Clock Villain]], [[Noble Top Enforcer]] (when not a Type I), mild examples of [[Necessarily Evil]], those who are [[Forced Into Evil]], and occasionally a [[Token Good Teammate]] (when amongst a bunch of scumbags).
 
== Examples ==
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* Pantherlily, and Erza old comrades from ''[[Fairy Tail (Manga)|Fairy Tail]]''
* The title character of ''[[Shinryaku Ika Musume (Manga)|Squid Girl]]''. First of all, her threat of invading and taking over the surface world isn't taken very seriously by other characters (except [[Only Sane Man|Nagisa]]). And even if she ''tries'' to actually invade the surface, she would easily be defeated the entire military from many different countries that would put her under control. Oh wait, you don't ''need'' a military to do that, because it only takes ''[[Beware of the Nice Ones|one person]]'' to keep Squid Girl under control. Also, the worst thing she can actually do is trying to [[Prehensile Hair|tie you up with her tentacles]] and attempt to take over a beach restaurant. Not to mention, she is [[Mundane Object Amazement|very oblivious and has very limited knowledge]] on the human society in general. In the end, she end ups like a [[Cute Monster Girl|cute squid girl goofball]] with [[Villain Decay|her villainy not even taken seriously by everyone]].
* Chao Lingshen from ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima (Manga)|Mahou Sensei Negima]]''. She's such an [[Anti -Villain]], in fact, that Negi had actually considered letting her complete her plan.
* ''[[Ratman]]'' is a [[Villain Protagonist|protagonist]] version, and is actually a superhero [[Otaku]] who is only a "dark hero" because he was tricked into joining Jackal, an [[Oddly Small Organization]] of rather goofy and nonthreatening villains. Since his missions have him breaking the law and put him at odds with the Hero Association (especially the more [[Jerkass]] heroes), he's a criminal, but takes every opportunity he can to use his powers to help people.
* ''[[Hajimete no Aku (Manga)|Hajimete no Aku]]'' definately comes to mind. I mean, the "villains" actually try to quite literally choke the world doing nice things. The villains are so good, in fact, that the characters question the heroes' good will and say that they are eviler...
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== [[Literature]] ==
* Several of the Havenite military personnel in the ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' series are only villains because they happen to be part of a nation that is at war with Manticore. This is especially the case after Eloise Pritchart takes over as President and transforms Haven from a [[PeoplesPeople's Republic of Tyranny]] into a genuine democracy. {{spoiler|They have now become straight protagonists after Haven and Manticore allied to fight Mesa.}}
* In many of the original [[Sherlock Holmes]] stories, the perpetrator or the closest equivalent turns out to have merely been the victim of the circumstances, not known what they were doing, merely committing a lesser crime for understandable reasons, or at least to be a [[Sympathetic Murderer]] taking justice in their own hands against an [[Asshole Victim]] who really had it coming. Once they're exposed and explain themselves, Holmes tends to let these characters off the hook even when they actually did do something illegal.
 
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* The Boss in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]''. {{spoiler|Her death}} [[Tear Jerker|is one of the saddest moments in gaming history.]]
* Miles Edgeworth in the ''[[Ace Attorney]]'' series is either this or a type III: he starts off as a more typical villain, trying his best to get all the defendants found guilty, but he has a [[Heel Face Turn]]. Now, he looks for the truth, and even helps Phoenix if need be.
** Gradually reshaped into a [[Sliding Scale of Anti -Heroes|type II Anti-Hero]] by the time of [[Ace Attorney Investigations Miles Edgeworth|his own game]].
* Both Eltoshan or Ishtar from ''[[Fire Emblem Jugdral|Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu]]''. Eltoshan was too much of a [[Stupid Good]] when it comes to loyalty (and dies for it), and Ishtar was really decent for children or Tinny, but just can't say "no" for [[Big Bad|Julius]].
** Ishtar, however, ''did'' go directly against Julius's orders and had children that were due to be sacrificed smuggled into Freege castle, and made it clear that anyone who laid a finger on them would be dealt with by her ''personally''. While she does end up dying for Julius, she does show that she's willing to disobey the orders of '''the most powerful character in the game''' in order to do what she feels is right. Really, if she wasn't in love with Julius she'd probably have done a [[Heel Face Turn]].
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* General Leo in ''[[Final Fantasy VI (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VI]]''.
* Lemon Browning in ''[[Super Robot Wars Advance]]'' and ''[[Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]''. Despite her [[Mad Scientist]] tendencies, she's generally without malice and kind enough with her creations, and you off her merely because she just have to fight for the side she's on. Oh, and her relationship with [[Noble Demon|Axel]] is genuine. {{spoiler|Add up that she's [[Manic Pixie Dream Girl|Excellen Browning]]'s [[Alternate Universe]] counterpart...}}
** Originally in ''Advance'', [[VideogameVideo Game Caring Potential|if you feel genuine enough]], you can avoid attacking her in the last stage and go beat down [[Big Bad|Vindel]], leaving Lemon's fate more open than surefire death.
* Sophitia Alexandra starting from ''[[Soul Series|SoulCalibur IV]]'' goes to this path. Despite starting out as the holiest and purest of all fighters, her motherly instincts decreed her to protect her children who was under Soul Edge's influence, by protecting said weapon that she swore to destroy. There's a reason why she's ''crying'' in her official art in IV.
** Her daughter Pyrrha gets the same treatment in Soulcalibur V. Being raised by Tira and manipulated into being a new host for Soul Edge, just about everything out of her mouth literally screams she doesn't want to do any of it.
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* Fuschia from ''[[Sinfest (Webcomic)|Sinfest]]'' goes from [[Card -Carrying Villain]] to type I to type IV.
* [[Lawful Stupid|Miko]] [[Knight Templar|Miyazaki]] from ''[[Order of the Stick (Webcomic)|Order of the Stick]]'' starts out here, and slides up to a Type III.
 
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