The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

** She was trying to arrest them. In the middle of a Hydra invasion. And focused on catching them rather than stopping the bad guys.

** "I'm putting this entire city on lockdown. Including the Avengers." and "Unless you join SHIELD right here and now, you're criminals as well." It's all on Tony. He could have chosen to play her little game and leave when things were back to normal. She could have been doing other things, but if Tony had any amount of common sense he wouldn't have just antagonized her.

*** If you're going to be a criminal either way (in the eyes of Miss Hill anyway), why not wait until after the current crisis is over to be a criminal. Once MODOC and the Baron had been dealt with with the help of SHIELD the team could've gone AWOL once that's done.

**** If they had agreed to join SHIELD then reneged on it, there would be worse consequences than not joining. SHIELD would have access to all their tech and information. They also would have been treated as worse criminals than before; they would be traitors. Military and SHIELD are held to a higher standard with stricter punishments than civilians. As vigilantes, they have more freedom to do things than SHIELD. That's probably the main reason Fury allowed them to be a team without too much argument. He knew there would be an operation he couldn't do himself and would need a scapegoat. He did it before with Hawkeye in Widow's Sting. With the right words, he can convince one of the Avengers to go rogue while taking a few other members with him. Complete plausible deniability.

*** He does acknowledge his flaws to an extent; when everyone thinks Thor's been killed by Ultron, Hulk acknowledges that he can't move Mjolnir. He doesn't struggle to move it, doesn't even try. He recognizes and admits that he isn't worthy to pick the hammer up.

**** I thought the Hulk was just making grumpy gus remark to not be bothered. And said remark simply was an offhand reference to Ultimate Hulk (who did eat people)

** According to the producers they wanted to use Ms Marvel in season 2 but found out that nobody outside of comic followers has a clue who she is, so they threw in a quick origin episode for her. But you might as well say the same thing about the Kree empire claiming Earth is their territory and then ignoring it while all the rest of the season stuff happen. In short, it was a set up for season 2 and it will be followed up in season 2. Season 1 had to deal with AIM, Kang, and the Asgard plots that the mini eps set up.

** It's been confirmed that she'll be joining the team in season 2, BTW.

*** Go on the street. Ask a person who Captain America is. Then ask about Ms. Marvel. Their answer would probably be "Is that the chick that died in the X-Men movie?" Carol was never in any shows other than a cameo in the X-Men show and the Super Hero Squad show. Compared to all of the other Avengers, who had been in cartoons since the 60's(bar Ant-Man and Wasp, who probably have the exact same problem).

* What's with the show, great as it is with Thor, turning all of Thor's enemies into The Hulk's? I mean, The Wrecking Crew work for the Leader, as does the Absorbing Man. I'm just wondering, is all.

* Another related to Thor. Why does he kind of suck sometimes? I mean, in the comics, he could fight the Hulk at a fifth of his full power, and still took him for two hours straight. And here, Hulk seems to be the strongest, generally making certain characters pointless. What's the point of teaming up with the Avengers when he beat them all by himself?

** Hulk at least has the weakness of being solely brute force. Against an enemy he can't punch to death, he needs help where as Thor is almost as strong and has his magical abilities as well. As for Thor, that problem has plagued him his entire existence, as on paper he should utterly dominate everything in the Marvel universe that isn't in the God catagory. Generally the idea is that he's always holding back, because his full power would turn New York into a crater and kill all his teammates as well as the villain, and often has difficulty calculating exactly how much of his power will be enough to save the day but keep damage to a minimum.

*** I know, but that's the point. Thor is the strongest being on earth in the comics, but here....he exists solely to Worf so the Hulk can deal with it. On Asgard, awesome as that all was, Thor spent all of it in chains, while Iron Man took out Ulik, and Antman fought Friggin' Ymir! I know Loki Curbstomped them all, but Thor only hit him once. That fight would have been the perfect opportunity to show Thor's full strength. But alas....Hopefully he'll do better next season.

**** I think Thor gave a pretty good showing once he was freed in Asgard. What with Loki having the frigging ''Odinforce'' in that fight.

** And you know, they still speak English, so how much more advanced than current humans can they possibly be.

** Kang's always had a fascination with the ancient world; especially ancient Egypt and its contemporaries. Could be a double standard; people with a romantic admiration for one ancient civilization rarely have the same love for another, even if on balance it could be called a better civilization. As for the speaking English, I figured his tech included some sort of universal translator, which I believe he has in the comics. Could be wrong.

* Why did the Avengers show more concern for the potential disappearance of Princess Ravonna than the potential disappearance of everyone in the universe?

** I don't think they were entirely unconcerned; they just thought that Kang was going about fixing things the wrong way. The Avengers definitely don't want the world to end, and if Kang didn't seem to think "Conquer it!" was the answer to everything, they would have certainly worked together to prevent the [[Bad Future]]. Yes, they're concerned for the future, but they're not going to let Kang kill people in the present.<br />Also, for all they know he's bullshitting them and using the bad future as an excuse to conquer them. Princess Ravonna, however, adds an innocent face to it, which has an effect you can't underestimate for a tragedy of any scale. People nowadays do it all the time: They feel for disasters in far off places, but many don't ''really'' feel it or empathize completely unless someone they know, personally, has been affected.

**** Actually, when Tony discovers the dimensional flare ups caused by the Norn Stones, he mentions 'and one that's in an active volcano'. Since there's only seven members after Ant Man left, they ignore that one, but three internets say that would have lead to Muspelheim.

*** Hold on. According to [[Marvel Ultimate Alliance]], Nifleheim is the frozen place where the Frost Giants live. Ymir is even a boss there. But in this show they call it Jotunheim. Huh?

**** Even in the original myths, Niffleheim has always been varied. In the start, it and Muspelheim were the first worlds, and the Water from their Fire and Ice would be the places Ymir emerged and subsequently reality was born. However, in Helheim (Land of the Dead), there's a region called Niffel, which is the Norse version of Hell. So, there's always been a bit of confusion. And like in the Thor movie, the Jotunheim we see is more like Niffleheim as seen in [[Marvel Ultimate Alliance]] (Mostly because Niffleheim seemed not to have a native race, so Giants are also seen there). Confused? Well, it's not hard to be.

** Whatever Hank ripped out of the ground it wasn't Yggdrasil, or at least not all of it. Yggdrasil is so large that each of the nine realms exist on a different branch or root. Remember at the end with Loki and the Nidhogg? (Nidhogg is the snake.) Well, if you look at the scene again you can see that it takes place by Yggdrasil's roots. Which makes sense because in Norse Mythology Nidhogg likes to gnaw on the tree's roots.

* I have a question in [[Hulk Vs/Headscratchers|Hulk Vs]] about the timeline containing this show and other pieces of Marvel animation.

** It'd be nice to hear what the question is.

*** Craig Klye only mentions that vs Wolverine and [[Wat XM]] were in the same continuity. vs Thor was never confirmed to be.

* In the narration that Fury does over the opening. its bad enough that they forgot to add a few of the characters and cut into that bitchin' theme song. but they call Thor the "Prince" of Thunder. Really? WHOSE THE KING OF THUNDER, DISNEY? HE IS A GOD. A GOD OF THUNDER AND LIGHTENING. but, since i don't read Thor comics (though, because of this show and the movie, i think i might), can anybody tell me if this is just something they messed up on, or if its something they occasionally called him.

** The new Spidey show is far more pragmatic with revealed info and the Thor Frog episode had a clip where Thor sounded like the show's Thor, so not overruled yet.

** Christopher Yost specifically said that they are not in the same universe, but Jeph Leob said that they could be. Take your pick on who's word to take.

** Three possible reasons: 1. The head writer of the show Chris Yost has for whatever reason come across as really liking the Hulk at the expense of other characters. Just look at Marvel's other animated features: Ultimate Avengers, Next Avengers, and Hulk vs. where the Hulk is invinicble and everyone else (espeically Thor) is useless without him. For one reason or another it has been toned down here, but is still evident as seen by other discussions n this page. So Hulk will always look great. 2. Hulk has long treated him as something of a punching bag in comics so that is the way he is here. 3. They needed a character to show how great Hulk and the others are and Abomination just got the unlucky role.

** Dude what's your problem? all 3 reasons was more of a complaint on the Hulk with a hint of Thor fanboyism than actual answers. Aside from the latest movie, Abomination has never been displayed very well in motion media. Bane from DC suffers a similar fate.

* If Dr. Doom is stronger the whole Fantastic Four in this series, why hasn't he killed them yet?

** Hero Immunity.

** And considering he's likely cooperating with the Skrulls, he may not have time for them at the moment. And it could also be chalked up to the "first appearance, superpowerful" thing, where when someone debuts, they are absolutely amazing in strength, but after that, they regress to a downplayed level.

*** I highly doubt that. If anything, what we saw in [[S 01 E 01]] it looks like Doom may be one the first to realise Skrull infiltration besides Fury. And I think he will oppose it.