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*** In addition, Angel eventually comes to realize that he is jeopardizing the safety of all those around him because of his own personal desires trumping reason, and breaks up with Buffy and moves to L.A.. Where he informs his new support crew there that they have his specific permission to kill him in cold blood if that is necessary to prevent Angelus from returning and causing further harm. Even the ''franchise'' agreed with Xander here.
** Ironically, Buffy and Xander end up on the opposite side of the argument when it turns out that Anya, Xander's vengeance demon ex-fiance, is responsible for several deaths. Buffy instantly decides she's a danger and needs to be killed, Xander disagrees because... well, Anya's their friend and they're kind of used to them turning evil by now. In the end, Willow [[Takes a Third Option]].
*** Although he did not think to make the argument, Xander also had a legitimate point for his side in that ''everyone'' involved in that argument -- including Buffy and himself -- had taken innocent human life at least once, making Buffy an even larger hypocrite. (Buffy is equally as guilty of the manslaughter of Deputy Mayor Finch as Faith is, since she was the one holding him while Faith staked him, and Xander likewise is guilty of manslaughter re: the casualties of the Sweet incident in season 6.)
* On ''[[The Daily Show]]'' March 18, 2010 episode, while making fun of [[Glenn Beck]] making fun of progressives, Jon Stewart [[Lampshade]]s this when he says "Hmm... Strawman-[[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|Slippery-Slope-]][[Dumbass Has a Point|Dumb-Guy]] might have a point." Does Jon read [[TV Tropes]]?
* A rather unfortunate real life example of this involved ''[[The Daily Show]]'' in 2009. Comic Jason Jones went to Iran and recorded a parody news segment, posing as a stereotypical "ignorant American" convinced that Iran was a tyrannical and evil country. He interviewed Iranian journalist Maziar Bahari, who calmly explained that simply wasn't true. The next day, Bahari was arrested by the Iranian government, imprisoned for six months, beaten, and forced to sign a confession that he was a spy.