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* [[Super Smash Bros/Awesome Music|Awesome Music - Super Smash Bros.]]
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** Among Mario RPG fans, many were thrilled to see the [[Paper Mario]] series ''finally'' get some representation... but soon went sour after finding out that it mainly represents the much aligned black sheep of the franchise, Sticker Star.
** For fans of the Koopalings, it was pretty damn cool to find out that Bowser Jr. had all seven of them as his alternate costumes! Especially since they're recognized as their own characters despite sharing Bowser Jr.'s roster slot. This was also the case with Alph being an Olimar alt with four different pallete swaps as well.
** New pallet swaps in general made a lot of fans happy: Link's Fierce Deity alt in general is considered a widely loved and heavily requested one.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Lucario has become this due to many Mewtwo fans accusing him of being a clone (Never mind that he certainly is not) as well as having plenty of fans.
** Greninja as well for similar reasons, now with fans accusing Sakurai of intentionally tricking them into thinking Mewtwo was going to be revealed.
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** Duck Hunt Dog. Hilariously awesome and original newcomer, or stupid addition who takes up a more deserving roster slot?
** EVERYTHING about Ridley. Whether or not he deserves to be playable, if he could be unique and fun to play as, if he has any shot of making it as a playable character... the debates go on and on.
** Does ''Kid Icarus Uprising'' deserve to get as much content as it does? Some argue that it does given that ''Uprising'' was developed with ''Smash Bros'' in mind which justifies Sakurai putting so much of it's content into the game. Others however argue that ''one game'' does not deserve to have such a staggering amount of content when series like [[Donkey Kong Country]] and [[Metroid]] have a lot less. Both sides make valid points, as well as a lot of name-calling and insults and all around unpleasant stuff.
* [[Broken Base]]: [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|Let's leave it at that.]]
* [[Character Tiers]]: One of the leading causes of the [[Broken Base]].
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** Little Mac/Samus became this due to their heights being compared in the former's reveal trailer.
** Palutena/Lucina for a rather... intimate picture of the two available as one of Lucina's ten pictures under her profile on the official website.
* [[Creator's Pet]]: A lot of people are claiming that Sakurai shows this treatment towards [[Kid Icarus Uprising]], and it's hard not to see why. Veteran fighter Pit has had a more-or-less complete overhaul to his moveset while characters like Ganondorf and Toon Link who could very well use one more are still clones, Palutena has twelve fully unique moves to herself, and Dark Pit is a newcomer clone that others think could have given his slot to Alph. And that's just in playable reps, Kid Icarus: Uprising is represented the most in items and Smash Run enemies, and has ''so far'' a total of three different stages across both games. Whether this is a good thing or bad thing is highly, highly debated.
* [[Crossover Ship]]: Given that this is one big [[Crossover]], fans are bound to do this.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Metroid isn't really much of a success in Japan and the amount of games produced for it is not much compared to other Nintendo series. Hell, it has had only one protagonist with consistent roles, hence why you only get to play as Samus. We do get, however, two instances of Samus (her regular self and Zero Suit Samus), three Metroid themed stages in Brawl, along with two appearances of Ridley in the Subspace Emissary (other than the optional battle with Ganondorf, no Zelda boss appears).
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** Villager became this for many due to the fact that he has a rather odd fighting style (Growing and cutting down trees, using a Gyroid like a rocket, using a bug net to trap opponents...), and the psychopathic Villager meme he spouted helps a lot.
** Mega Man was requested for a long time, and his inclusion made a ''lot'' of people happy, especially due to Capcom more-or-less leaving him for dead.
** Greninja is this [[Hate Dumb]] aside for being a Pokémon who is actually rather popular with fans already due to being a cool looking Pokémon who is very practical in his home series.
** Palutena is becoming steadily more popular for her fun reveal trailer and interesting playstyle, it helps that she was heavily requested before.
** Robin has won a lot of love from people who are bored and jaded by every Fire Emblem rep relying solely on swordplay thanks to his magic-based moveset.
** Bowser Jr. and Rosalina both pull this sort of status thanks to the fact that they not only have very fun playstyles (Rosalina being a puppet-based fighter with Bowser Jr. relying on his Clown Car's assortment of tricks)and the fact that they were quite unexpected to show up. Even better in Bowser Jr's case: all seven Koopalings are playable by proxy due to him possessing them as alts.
* [[Even Better Sequel]]: ''Melee'', regarding the original, with trophies, more controls, more characters, more stages, and a competitive scene.
** ''Brawl'' is considered this to ''Melee'', by some people anyway.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: The "hurr-durr-Lucario-is-a-clone-of-Mewtwo" people base that off the fact that both of their neutral special moves involve making some sort of power ball. Other than that, Lucario and Mewtwo couldn't be any more different.
** The Mewtwo [[Fan Dumb]] EXPLODED once Lucario was revealed to be returning to Smash Bros to truly embarrassing levels.
** The same could be said with Ashley's fanbase once she was revealed to be an Assist Trophy.
* [[Good Bad Bugs]]:
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** There's a glitch in ''Melee'' that lets you, among other things, play as Master Hand, though it is [[Game Breaking Bug|prone to crashing]]. Note that this glitch went undiscovered for ''seven years''.
** An AI glitch in ''Melee'' will occasionally cause a giant Yoshi fought in Classic mode to jump off the edge of the stage as soon as the match begins, giving you the victory in under five seconds.
* [[Hate Dumb]]: Lucario has amassed one among Mewtwo fans due his perceived [[Replacement Scrappy]] status (Never mind the fact that Mewtwo was planned for Brawl and could still
** Zero Suit Samus is developing one of these among
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]:
** There was a letter sent to [[Nintendo Power]] describing characters the writer would like to see in the game. One of the characters was Lucario. Nintendo Power sarcastically replied that it was a good character choice. Cue ''Brawl'', and Lucario is a playable character.
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* [[It Was His Sled]]: '''All''' of the unlockable characters in every game. Taken for granted by the inclusion of Sheik as a transformation of Zelda.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Captain Falcon. He has a devastating punch, (a meme in itself) a move where he hip thrusts you with enough force to flip off of you twice WHILE there are small explosions, and a move where he thrusts his knee out, and if you get hit by this knee, your character will look like he just got electrocuted and he/she will go flying. No wonder he's considered to be Chuck Norris's rival....
** Roy's not falling too behind. After all, he IS our boy!
** Villager became characterized as a homicidal maniac among the fanbase when he was revealed due to his never-changing facial expression in the heat of battle.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: "FALCON... PUNCH!" Or hell, anything that Captain Falcon says.
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** Pikachu's taunt. "Pika-Pikaaa!" over and over.
** [[Sonic the Hedgehog|YOU'RE TOO SLOW! C'MON STEP IT UP!]]
** Pit's "HIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYAH!" in Brawl, or hell, Pit in general. Thankfully, Anthony Del Rio's voicework in Smash 4 rectifies this.
* [[One True Pairing]]: Snake/Samus in ''Brawl'', as well as her and Little Mac in the next installment.
** Villager and Wii Fit Trainer due to both of them being characterized as psychopaths by the fanbase.
* [[Power-Up Letdown]]: If you get Goldeen from a Pokeball or in Smash 4: a Master Ball.
* [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses]]: Peach is criticized for fighting with a ''frying pan'' as a weapon, saying that's too much of a stereotypical woman's weapon to be efficient (though she's been using frying pans to attack since ''Super Mario RPG''.)
** And as anyone who has ''ever'' lifted a frying pan or has been hit with one can tell you, it'd make a perfectly good weapon if it wasn't seen as such a joke.
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** Toon Link for Young Link.
* [[The Scrappy]]: Pichu is an [[Joke Character|intentional example]]. Its electricity-based attacks ''damage itself''.
** Clone characters in general get this kind of reaction thanks to the fact that they play more-or-less identical to the fighter they are based off of, either overshadowing the original and making them arguably irrelevant, or are overshadowed themselves.
*** It seems that Smash 4's new clones get this treatment the most: Lucina is viewed as way too similar to Marth (just without his sword's sweet spot) to justify her own slot. Dr. Mario's status probably isn't helped by the fact that the ''Mario'' franchise has a ''lot'' of representatives in general this time around, and the fact that he made it in while his fellow Melee alumni Mewtwo didn't. Dark Pit however gets this status the most: as he is pretty much a ''Palette Swap'' of Pit that originated in Brawl before becoming his own character in ''Uprising'' whose moveset is considered to be ''the'' laziest out of any clone character's. His edgy personality in his own game also gets him a lot of scorn from the fans as well.
* [[Scrappy Level]] / [[That One Sidequest]]: Cruel Melee/Brawl, along with Battlefield Fortress in Subspace Emissary & the [[Boss Rush|Boss Battles]] in ''Brawl''.
* [[Scrappy Mechanic]]: Tripping in ''Brawl''. Whenever a player breaks into a run, they may, by completely random chance, trip over and leave themselves vulnerable. The mechanic doesn't go away in Sudden Death. Even though tripping gives you invincibility frames, you could pretty much do the same thing but better with sidestepping.
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