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* [[Acceptable Targets]]:
** Fighteer is a favorite punching bag for a lot of ex-fans and former users of the site, who cite his tendencies to talk down to people, throw out bans like they're candy, and in general acting like a tyrant on a power trip [[Small Name, Big Ego|despite being a moderator on a website]] as one of their biggest issues with the site and its mod staff. Even after his (forced) resignation in late 2022, he remains an emblem of everything that was wrong with TV Tropes' moderation style since well before the [[TV Tropes/The Second Google Incident|Second Google Incident]].
** Inside the site, Ike Perlmutter, an Israeli-American billionaire. Trivia pages outright call him racist. The origin behind such hostility apparently derivatederive from unpopular decisions he took as CEO of Marvel, and ana disputed quote of him calling black people "all the same".
** The "Intimidating White Presence" trope picture calls it "Truth on Television", while the "Scary Black Man" page outright says it is racist in origin. And in case you think the creators of the latter do not know the previous one exists to somehow excuse the racism against white people, the very page links to "Scary Black Man". It's like Tv Tropes [[Failed a Spot Check]] for rampant hypocrisy.
** Any corrupt media mogul is quickly compared to Rupert Murdoch, thanks to his association with Fox News, an American cable channel said to have a right-wing bias.
** Once [[Donald Trump]] became president of the USA, users compare any corrupt corporate executive to him, no matter how distant they are in appearance or personality.
** Despite the fact ''[[Persona 5]]'''s main villain Masayoshi Shido's ideology is never mentioned and in fact, it's pointless to mention since it would distract from the fact Shido is only interested in power, Tv Tropes says he's a right-wing ultranationalist and compares him to Shinzo Abe, a right-wing politician that was prime-minister at the time of release.
* [[Archive Panic]]: You're gonna need a ''lot'' of time to read all the pages.
* [[Broken Base]]:
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** The complete de-wicking of [[Internet Backdraft]] in mid-2019. Those for it state that [[Internet Backdraft]] had a long history of being misused for negative fan reaction because of the definition of it being so vague, and that negativity did not belong on TV Tropes. Those against it were upset that over thousands of entries were wiped away based on the consensus of about twenty tropers and pointed out that instead of putting valid entries in their proper YMMV tropes as was discussed, the tropers doing the cleanup simply nuked everything without even bothering to try.
** Back in the site's older days, most tropes had a Troper Tales section where tropers could share funny little stories about those tropes happening in their day-to-day lives. However, it quickly became ''flooded'' with stories that tended to be either disgusting, bizarre, pretentious, blatant bullshit, or sometimes all at once, and after critical communities mercilessly tore into it, it was given the axe altogether. For a while, those that remembered them were of two minds: there are the optimists who think it had potential and deserves a second chance, while others feel that it's best left forgotten and unmourned, with the very concept being unsalvageable.
** The 'retirement' of Fighteer, a moderator known for his [[Hair-Trigger Temper]] (especially towards those who have been suspended for any reasons) in December 2022, is the cause of another potential rift in the userbase. Fighteer himself has admitted that he's like this to keep "troublemakers" in line and to intimidate trolls - but he's been known to define "troublemaker" as anyone who disagrees with him, even long-standing members of the wiki. This led to his announced vacation near the end of 2022. While some critics expressed hopes that he'll come back with a clearer head (and thus end up much less trigger-happy), many others question how the mishandling of this situation with regards to clarity on any consequences for reflects on the moderation team: while moderation did eventually clarify that Fighteer's vacation was on pain of an actual ban otherwise, many users expressed dissatisfaction at this - both with the lack of clarity and being forward regarding the decision, and with the fact that it came across as a slap on the wrist for a user whose reputation of being unduly heavy-handed and harsh (both in moderating the site and otherwise) spanned severalmore than a ''yearsdecade''.
** The act of disambiguating older tropes. Some believe it's for the better as they believe they get misused or too clunky, such as [[Boobs of Steel]]'s actual definition requiring the melee fighter to have the biggest bust out of the cast rather than just having a noticeable bust size. Others see it as unnecessary and tend to direct them to tropes with little or no relation to them, as well as not handling how most wiki would have disambiguate, such as for separating subjects that shares the same name.
* [[Death of the Author]]: Strongly underlined the philosophy of troping as defined by the site around 2012.
* [[Fan Myopia]]: While part and parcel with a site made about fandom ''by'' fandom, this trope hit critical mass on the site in a frankly alarming manner and cemented its reputation as the domain of online pseudo-intellectualism and [[Fan Dumb]] incarnate - and that's without getting into what led to the Second Google Incident.
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: The community's ''obsessive'' love of [[That Guy With The Glasses]] and [[Channel Awesome]] became this after the website collapsed in 2018, which painted a ''lot'' of its contributors in a bad light for various reasons. Making it even more uncomfortable is a lot of Channel Awesome-related pages being locked and barely updated to reflect on the fallout, which means users can still see tropers openly lusting after sexual predator [[JewWario|Justin Carmical]], among other cringeworthy things.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]:Following backlash over unbanning a user known for their transphobia in September 2023, the moderation team silenced any outcry about the decision and promptly locked down the thread. Fighteer's return to moderation only adds fuel to the flame, as they subsequently implement the 'no questioning moderation' rule, going so far as to suspend anyone who dares to criticize. Most end up unable to tolerate TV Tropes' infamous moderation any longer, with even some old-timers resigning following the incident.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: In general, TV Tropes' transition from a relaxed and casual atmosphere to a far more professional one is a sore spot for many an old fan. While most would agree that certain aspects of old troper culture such as Troper Tales did the site's reputation far more harm than good, scrubbing the website of ''any'' fun or personality in trope entries comes off as a major over-correction, leading not just to entries and pages feeling very clinical and robotic, but the website becoming its own antithesis by being just as stuffy and formal as Wikipedia. This may or may not be reflective of troubling general trends in fandom - wanting all of the prestige of being professional and legitimate, but with none of the actions, analysis and self-introspection that would be required to be "taken seriously".
** Mostly because of Fast Eddie and Fighteer, the staff at TV Tropes have garnered a reputation for being strict, power-hungry, abusive people who will ban anyone for the most mild offenses -- including not parroting their every opinion.
** The forums have garnered a reputation for being an incredibly toxic place with incredibly toxic people, filled with biased opinions that will be shot down unless the mods happen to agree with them.
** The [[Nightmare Fuel]] page for [[Ready Jet Go!]] was mocked off-site by places like 4chan since it was a show for kids on pre-school that had barely anything unnerving. TV Tropes eventually scrapped the page, but it's often brought up as an example of the site's users making anything slightly uncomfortable an example, or that they are so fragile that anything can be an example.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:
** The purge of [[Porn Tropes]] and nearly every NSFW work, a decision so controversial that [[This Very Wiki]] came into being partially because of it.