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** It's been a tradition for the two companies to do light-hearted jabs at each other for over fifty years. Unfortunately, writers today [[Armed with Canon|tend to forget that]].

* Ironically, when ''[[The Ultimates]]'' came out, their version of The Avengers seemed to be heavily influenced by a satirical version introduced when [[Mark Millar]] took over; a team of black-ops sociopaths controlled by the US government. The major villain on Millar's first arc is basically [[Jack Kirby]]; he's specifically described as "the guy who would've created all your favorite comic books" if he hadn't been hired by the US government. The series has a ''lot'' of [[Author Appeal]], and [[Anvilicious|they're not subtle about it either]]. He even takes shots at Charles Atlas bodybuilding ads. Also;

* ''[[The Authority]]'' took this to a ridiculous extreme by fighting (and utterly destroying) satirical versions of the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, SHIELD, and the X-Men. The authors explained this was a deliberate poke at traditional superheroes who they felt embodied and maintained the status quo.

** The comic itself later received a Take That in the form of the "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?" story arc of ''[[Superman]]''.

*** Ironically, despite the creator of "What's So Funny" intending for "The Elites" to basically be a one/two-shot deal, a second version of the Elites appeared... and turned out to be pulling a [[Xanatos Gambit]] to pretend to be the second coming of the original Elites in order to make humanity pull together for one major effort needed to waive off [[Gaia's Vengeance]]... a smackdown that Gaea herself was planning to dish out. They subsequently became the shortlived "[[Justice League Elites]]", in essence the black ops branch of the [[Justice League]] family.

* Prior to Mcduffie's death, he had been in some very publicized disputes with [[Dan Di Dio]] and DC editorial over the [[Executive Meddling]] his ''Justice League of America'' run and his ''Milestone Forever'' mini-series received. After he died, a one-shot tribute comic was published, and it contained a metafictional story where [[Static (comics)|Static]] and [[Young Justice (comics)|Rocket]] (two characters he created) discuss Mcduffie's passing, and both state that now that he is dead, the same people who bullied Dwayne and made his job difficult would try to cash in and pretend that he was important to them.

* ''[[Final Crisis]]: Rogues' Revenge'' has this thinly-veiled meta-commentary on Marc Guggenheim's run on [[The Flash]] and its misuse of [[Friendly Enemies|the Rogues]], as well as the quality issues of certain big events such as ''[[Amazons Attack]]'' and ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]]''.

Captain Cold: No. This is for one $%@#$@-up year. }}

* James Robinson's final issue of the 2006-2011 ''Justice League'' series has a number of potshots directed at the [[New 52]] reboot that resulted in the title's cancellation, including the favoritism shown towards [[Grant Morrisons Batman|Batwing]] over a number of already-established African-based heroes, Dick Grayson's return to the Nightwing identity and Donna Troy's apparent lack of appearance in the reboot. It also took shots at the ''Justice League'' fans who criticized Robinson's run, with Grayson stating that he didn't care whether or not his iteration of the League would be remembered fondly by the public, and that he and his team did their best despite what the detractors said. How subtle.

* ''[[The Incredible Hercules]]'' arc "Love & War" was more or less a massive Take That at DC's ''[[Amazons Attack]]''. And by that, we mean it was completely awesome.

* One of the first issues of [[Peter David]]'s ''[[Captain Mar-Vell]]'' (not [[Captain Marvel|that other guy]]) started with this dialogue:

'''Marlo:''' A dollar.<br />

'''Guy:''' A dollar a copy?! But they retail for $2.50 apiece! I bought this five years ago as a college investment!<br />

'''Marlo:''' Not a dollar a copy. A dollar for the whole box. And frankly, it's guys like you who ruined the fun of comic reading for everybody else. }}

* Also, after Liefeld complained about how David revealed that Shatterstar is bisexual in ''[[X-Factor]]'' comics because it was against [[Small Name, Big Ego|his vision]] and that he was supposed to be like a Spartan warrior and Mel Gibson in ''[[Gladiator]]'', David said he's going to add a dialogue below in one of next issues. He kept his word.

'''Guido:''' Figures. }}

** In the middle of X-Factor #200, Jamie Madrox is narrating:

That last one, I don't get. Did anyone '''not''' know about Rictor and Shatterstar? }}

*** Evidently [[Rob Liefeld]] was the only one who didn't see it coming.

* Tom Brevoort mentioned that ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird'' was "Guaranteed to have 100% less heroin use and impotence than [[Green Arrow|the average comic starring an archer]]".

* [[Spider Girl|Spider-Girl's]] creator Tom DeFalco does it from time to time in his MC2-continuity comics. For example:

'''Silikong''': Did you think we were some kind of [[Secret Invasion]] from other planet? Don't be ridiculous. }}

* [[Brian Bendis]] wrote a few take thats towards [[One More Day]], not only having [[Spider-Man]] reveal his secret identity to New Avengers as soon as he could and having [[Spider Woman]], who never has any [[No Fourth Wall|fourth wall breaking moments]], asking if Peter wasn't married.

** DC was hit with [[Identity Crisis]] parody with Impossible Man turning evil and murdering [[Stuffed Into the Fridge|Aunt Petunia]] for [[C-List Fodder|being a character without a movie deal]] and then being killed by Identity Girl - "a new character you've never heard of that's just watered down version of a bunch of characters you have heard of." It was also featuring ''What if DC would let us do [[Batman]]\[[Daredevil]]'' by [[Brian Bendis]] and David Mack, which was a picture of frozen Hell.

** There was also "What if Internet existed in" segment, showing posts which would be written if Internet was around in [[The Sixties]], [[The Seventies]] and [[The Eighties]]. Here's few of them:

-The new [[X-Men]] [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|team sucks!]] Why are they coming up with "great" new characters like Storm (white-haired black woman-- give me a break) and Colossus (like Thing but Russian) when we all know they're all going to fail. The only cool one was Thunderbird, so of course they killed him off! [[Ruined FOREVER|It's an insult to the fans of real X-Men]] [[Stan Lee]]'s X-Men, that we're forced to endure those pretenders!|All of sudden Matt Murdock is a ninja?? You gotta be kidding me?! Bring back Gene Colan and stop giving your books to these crazy people who clearly have never read a comics book before. }}

* Subversion - [http://www.4thletter.net/2009/11/okay-now-im-getting-mad this page] created some [[Internet Backdraft]], because it was seen as [[Take That]] against everybody who criticize sexist costumes of superheroines, but [http://www.4thletter.net/2009/11/boobgate-nine-days-later/ this response from Jen Van Meter] explains it was never intended to be take that.

* Recently [[Mark Waid]] posted on the web a long rant explaining why he is mad at [[Joe Michael Straczynski]], which he concluded by saying he needs to take a walk. [[Superman|Long, boring, pointless walk across America. That he won't finish.]]

* During the fight with [[Reality Warper|Cosmic Cube-enhanced Absorbing Man]] in Dan Slott's ''Mighty Avengers'', [[Dark Avengers|Ms. Marvel]] was hit by him, which had an effect of turning her back into Moonstone. Her comment:

 

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* [[Garth Ennis]] has also been known to viciously parody the concept of [[The Cape]]. Ironically, he's clearly fond of [[Superman]]; when Superman appeared in an issue of ''Hitman'', the character was treated with complete respect, and a later issue had the [[Anti-Hero]] main character remark that Superman was the only superhero he had any time for.

* In an early issue of ''[[The Savage Dragon]]'' -- created and written by ex-Marvel artist Erik Larsen -- Officer Dragon is [[Let's You and Him Fight|randomly attacked by superhero Bedrock]], who at the end of the issue explains that it was a test to see if he was tough enough to join the team Youngblood.

'''Bedrock''': ''It happens in [[Marvel Universe|Marvel Comics]] all the time!'' }}

** Larsen ''loves'' making Take Thats to Marvel. In one of the recent issues, not only did the new Overlord say that Magneto "really should think twice before giving his team the name 'Brotherhood of [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Evil]] Mutants'", when he asks Dragon to join his cause, the following exchange happens:

'''Overlord:''' ''No, you misunderstood me. And by the way, that scene really sucked.'' }}

** A more recent issue had Lex Luther and Norman Osborn discussing Dragon's constantly coming back to life, while they are served coffee by none other than Gwen Stacy. Larsen doesn't like Comic Book Deaths.

** Of course, DC has just undone that editorial misdeed at the end of ''[[Final Crisis]]'', so the hard feelings shouldn't be quite so much.

* From Jeremy "Norm" Scott, the creator of Slave Labor Graphic's Hsu and Chan series.

** While we're on the topic of Hsu and Chan, many of the issues contain at least one [[Take That]] targeted at the ''[[Tomb Raider]]'' games and movies.

** And [http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8980763&publicUserId=5811079 this comic he released on the new Hsu and Chan blog]

* The ''[[Doctor Who Magazine]]'' strip "The Deep Hereafter" is an [[Affectionate Parody]] of ''[[Film Noir|noir]]''-ish, [[Pulp Magazine|pulpy]] detective stories in general, and ''[[The Spirit]]'' in particular. One newspaper clipping pinned on the detective's wall reads "[[Frank Miller|Miller]] Kills Colt". Apparently Dan McDaid wasn't a fan of [[The Movie]].

* ''[[2000 AD|Two Thousand AD]]''' prog 1661 took a jab at DC's ''Wednesday Comics''

** Note: one of the few examples of a [[Take That]] against something critically acclaimed.

* ''[[Elf Quest]] - The Rebels'' has one against television in general. This is a planet-that-is-not-earth inhabited by humans. They have interplanetar space travel and internet for information, news, and porn. At one point we see preparations for a live feed of a car race.

Chairwoman Nuriham: "And induce people to watch it in their free time? When would they create art, or make music, or converse... I think such a project would be bad for the collective soul of the people." }}

* A British post-punk rock group took the name "Love and Rockets" in homage to the Hernandez Brothers' comic series ''[[Love and Rockets]]''. Los Bros, however, were not happy as they hadn't been asked permission and weren't fans of the band's pretentious music. Gilbert Hernandez proceeded to write a story featuring a particularly talentless and unpleasant fictional LA punk band called "Love and Rockets", with several derogatory barbs aimed directly at the British group.