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* Ironically, when ''[[The Ultimates]]'' came out, their version of The Avengers seemed to be heavily influenced by a satirical version introduced when [[Mark Millar]] took over; a team of black-ops sociopaths controlled by the US government. The major villain on Millar's first arc is basically [[Jack Kirby]]; he's specifically described as "the guy who would've created all your favorite comic books" if he hadn't been hired by the US government. The series has a ''lot'' of [[Author Appeal]], and [[Anvilicious|they're not subtle about it either]]. He even takes shots at Charles Atlas bodybuilding ads. Also;
{{quote|'''[[Lawyer-Friendly Cameo|Legally-distinct-parody]]-of [[Incredible Hulk|The Hulk]]:''' Comics are for retards.}}
* ''[[The Authority]]'' took this to a ridiculous extreme by fighting (and utterly destroying) satirical versions of the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, SHIELD, and the X-Men. The authors explained this was a deliberate poke at traditional superheroes who they felt embodied and maintained the status quo.
{{quote|'''Hawksmoor:''': (To [[Bill Clinton]]) We're not some comic book super-team who participate in pointless fights with pointless super-criminals every month to preserve the status quo.}}
** The comic itself later received a Take That in the form of the "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?" story arc of ''[[Superman]]''.
*** Ironically, despite the creator of "What's So Funny" intending for "The Elites" to basically be a one/two-shot deal, a second version of the Elites appeared... and turned out to be pulling a [[Xanatos Gambit]] to pretend to be the second coming of the original Elites in order to make humanity pull together for one major effort needed to waive off [[Gaia's Vengeance]]... a smackdown that Gaea herself was planning to dish out. They subsequently became the shortlived "[[Justice League Elites]]", in essence the black ops branch of the [[Justice League]] family.
** ''[[Justice League (animation)|Justice League]]'' even had an episode that showed what would happen if the titular heroes, which [[The Authority]] is patterned loosely after, were to suddenly decide that [[Knight Templar|they knew better than everyone else]]. It's not clear if it was a deliberate [[Take That]].
** Also in the series, during [[Warren Ellis]]' last story, is the Authority attempting to ''kill God''. Ellis is a staunch atheist.
* A bunch of defectors from Marvel (Byrne included), snuck in an epic [[Take That]] into the DC series ''Legends'', where Guy Gardner, [[Green Lantern]], beat the crap out of a transparent [[Expy]] of Star Brand and Shooter, without even breaking a sweat. Viewable [http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/10/guy-gardner-vs-jim-shooter.html here].
* ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'': Two words: [http://www.revolutionsf.com/article.php?id=4448 Rorschach sucks].
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** Issue #3 of Adventure Comics uses Funky Flashman as a throwaway villain, trying to steal a Mother Box. Take that as you will.
* Superboy Prime may be one big Take That at all silver-age fans who are complaining about current [[Darker and Edgier]] settings.
** At the end of Legion of Three Worlds, Superboy Prime is shown living in his parent's basement, ''posting on the DC message boards''.
*** [http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000188640&start=0&tstart=0 In a real thread, no less.] [[Mind Screw|There's even real posts from the guy]].
**** Further cementing the fact that [[Fridge Brilliance|Earth-Prime is our world.]] [[Fridge Horror|Wait...]] [[The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You|that means...]] [[Oh Crap|Oh god.]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|Oh]] [[Physical God|dear]] [[Complete Monster|GOD.]]
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** Apparently he forgot that he actually fought alongside the Trojans in the real thing.
*** Considering that Achilles also remembers fighting alongside him, he probably fought for the other team in Marvel Universe.
** He also has once took jab at Spartans, saying they never failed to annoy him and that he favored Athens. Spartans having a statue of him in chains, and their kids claiming to be Hercule's descendants may have something to do with it.
* ''[[The Punisher]]'' and ''[[Wolverine]]'' occasionally traded jabs. [[Garth Ennis]] repeatedly wrote Punisher issues where Frank dealt Wolverine horrible injuries. Wolverine's writers responded by writing an issue where Logan defeats Frank and them implies that Frank is gay. Ennis responded by writing a Punisher comic where Frank shoots Logan in half with a rocket. It goes on like this.
* When John Byrne took over ''Star Brand'' back in the '80s, he proceeded to launch one [[Take That]] after another at the departing figure of ousted [[Marvel Comics]] editor-in-chief [[Jim Shooter]]. ''Star Brand'' was one of the Shooter-initiated "[[The New Universe|New Universe]]" titles, and was the one that Shooter himself wrote personally. Byrne not only took ''ad hominem'' shots at Shooter personally, but had exposition characters [[Lampshade Hanging|hang lampshades]] on how implausible the events of Shooter's run was, and how [[Idiot Ball|stupid]] the hero had been. Early on in Byrne's run, the hero's girlfriend got [[Stuffed in The Fridge]]; the hero later broke down and passed the titular Brand onto some other poor schmuck, ''destroying Pittsburgh in the process". Not coincidentally, the book's original hero [[Author Avatar|bore a physical resemblance to Shooter]].
*** The Author Avatar of Byrne died horrifically in the Pittburgh explosion. So did about ten thousand comic book con-goers. Such is life. Pretend life.
* During the nineties period, somebody gave Hulk a fin to where on his head that resembled the Savage Dragon's. Hulk pointed out that despite this "ingenious disguise" everyone who saw him would think, Hey there goes Hulk with a fin on his head.
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* [[Brian Bendis]] wrote a few take thats towards [[One More Day]], not only having [[Spider-Man]] reveal his secret identity to New Avengers as soon as he could and having [[Spider Woman]], who never has any [[No Fourth Wall|fourth wall breaking moments]], asking if Peter wasn't married.
* The [[Ultimate Marvel]] version of of the [[Iron Man]] story arc ''Armor Wars'' has Iron Man at point mixing it up with other power armored soldiers [[Halo|who bear a striking resemblance to a certain Master Chief]]. Iron Man then proceeds to casually blow them out of the sky. [[Word of God|The writer, Warren Ellis]] stated online that [[Stealth Parody|he used the story as an excuse to have a little fun and throw in as many jokes as possible]] (including one about Tony Stark using his computers to browse 4Chan).
* And who can forget this one line by Ultimate [[Captain America (comics)]]: ''"[[Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys|Surrender? SURRENDER?! You think this letter on my forehead stands for France?]]"''
** This then lead to a more subtle take that by Ed Brubaker in the pages of 616-verse Captain America, where Cap reflects on his time fighting with the French Resistance and chides the folks who dismiss the French as "cowards."
** To which another shout out was made in the pages of [[Nextwave]] - When Elsa Bloodstone is assaulted by a Captain America-imitation, and he claims she is just a victim, she blows him ten ways to Sunday, then points at the Euro-symbol on her T-shirt, and exclaims: "''Victim''? You think this letter on my chest stands for ''America?!''"
* ''[[The Awesome Slapstick]]'' is basically built on [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] and [[Take That|Take Thats]], having things like "[[The Punisher|The Overkiller]], mutant murderizer" and "[[Batman|Skulker-Arounder]], dark, gritty, realistic avenger of evil".
* Almost every ''Spider-Man'' writer since 1996 thinks making at least one joke about ''Clone Saga'' (sometimes really funny, [[Sturgeon's Law|more often not]]) to be his holy duty.
* Marvel's ''Wha... Huh?'' features take thats against DC and people complaining about comics at the Internet.
** DC was hit with [[Identity Crisis]] parody with Impossible Man turning evil and murdering [[Stuffed Into the Fridge|Aunt Petunia]] for [[C-List Fodder|being a character without a movie deal]] and then being killed by Identity Girl - "a new character you've never heard of that's just watered down version of a bunch of characters you have heard of." It was also featuring ''What if DC would let us do [[Batman]]\[[Daredevil]]'' by [[Brian Bendis]] and David Mack, which was a picture of frozen Hell.
** There was also "What if Internet existed in" segment, showing posts which would be written if Internet was around in [[The Sixties]], [[The Seventies]] and [[The Eighties]]. Here's few of them:
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-The new [[X-Men]] [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|team sucks!]] Why are they coming up with "great" new characters like Storm (white-haired black woman-- give me a break) and Colossus (like Thing but Russian) when we all know they're all going to fail. The only cool one was Thunderbird, so of course they killed him off! [[Ruined FOREVER|It's an insult to the fans of real X-Men]] [[Stan Lee]]'s X-Men, that we're forced to endure those pretenders!|All of sudden Matt Murdock is a ninja?? You gotta be kidding me?! Bring back Gene Colan and stop giving your books to these crazy people who clearly have never read a comics book before. }}
* Subversion - [http://www.4thletter.net/2009/11/okay-now-im-getting-mad this page] created some [[Internet Backdraft]], because it was seen as [[Take That]] against everybody who criticize sexist costumes of superheroines, but [http://www.4thletter.net/2009/11/boobgate-nine-days-later/ this response from Jen Van Meter] explains it was never intended to be take that.
* One issue of [[Marvel Adventures]]: Avengers poked fun at the infamous [[Captain America (comics)]] direct to video movie (where Cap wore rubber ears on his mask) by having [[Wolverine]] sarcastically ask him "Are those ears real?!"
* An [[Iron Man]] comic book featured Jarvis resigning. His letter of resignation is actually the same letter Dave Cockrum wrote when resigning from Marvel. In case people didn't get it, the writer explicitly mentioned this three issues later.
* An issue of [[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]] features a guy reading a newspaper that says, "Cruz Swipes Again". This was made by Joe Madureira who had accused fellow artist Roger Cruz of swiping (making pages nearly identical to that of) his material.
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* [[Garth Ennis]] has also been known to viciously parody the concept of [[The Cape (trope)]]. Ironically, he's clearly fond of [[Superman]]; when Superman appeared in an issue of ''Hitman'', the character was treated with complete respect, and a later issue had the [[Anti-Hero]] main character remark that Superman was the only superhero he had any time for.
* In an early issue of ''[[The Savage Dragon]]'' -- created and written by ex-Marvel artist Erik Larsen -- Officer Dragon is [[Let's You and Him Fight|randomly attacked by superhero Bedrock]], who at the end of the issue explains that it was a test to see if he was tough enough to join the team Youngblood.
{{quote|'''Dragon''': ''THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD!''
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** This wasn't the first time a comic written by Michael Gallagher took a stab at dark and edgy '90s-era comics. ''[[ALF]]'' #38's cover featured a huge, fierce-looking silhouette of Alf, along with the labels "Darker!", "Grittier!", and "Alien with an attitude!". At the bottom of the cover was normal Alf standing in front of a spotlight, asking if the "revamp" would [[No Fourth Wall|actually boost the comic's income]].
*** In a similar vein to this, Sonic the Hedgehog #4's cover boasted Sonic as a "grittier! Darker!" chimney sweeper.
**** Bizzarely, the series became [[Funny Aneurysm Moment|darker itself]], what with geniocide, murder, love triangles, huge family trees, Eggman cracking, implied incest, [[Complete Monster]] villains like Fintevius and Kage in contrast to the [[Affably Evil]] current Robotnik or [[Harmless Villain]] old Robotnik from the early issues, nuclear bombing, and other horrific stuff.
** The whole Special Zone arc of the British [[Sonic the Comic]] was an affectionate parody of Marvel comics, most notably when Sonic walked in on a team of local superheroes in a fight with the Legion of Evil. After a comment about the property damage both sides are causing and a brief attempt to work out which side is which the cops arrive, at which point ''both'' groups make a quick retreat.
*** A later story introduces an obvious X-Men parody, including a Wolverine knock off with [[Could Have Been Messy|corks attached to his claws]] and the stated superpower of [[Informed Ability|snarling, getting angry and talking about what a badass he was.]]
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* [[Alan Moore]]'s ''Supreme'' had a gratuitous scene with the Televillain killing Courtney Cox's character on ''[[Friends]]'' using his powers, thus showing that, in spite of his tacky feel, he was awesome.
** Billy Eliot is one big [[Take That]] against Grant Morrison and the resident [[Butt Monkey]]. His M.O. is to [[Kudzu Plot|create as much complicate and complex stories as he can, to the point that they fall under their own weight and become an unreadable mess]], other people think he's a total [[Jerkass]], Supreme's villains consider his presence an act of cruel and unusual punishment, the equivalent of the [[Legion of Super-Heroes]] hates him (especially after he accidentally joined their [[Legion of Doom]]) and the only person who likes him is a [[Captain Ersatz]] of [[The Joker]].
** Moore also delivered a few take thats against Hillary Clinton when Korgo The Space Tyrant took over the United States and made her his bride. First, we see her during a press conference claiming this is not a bad thing and that the press should stop panicking about nothing. And then we find out she's [[Too Spicy for Yog-Sothoth|so horrible that Korgo willingly allowed Supreme to beat him to get away from her]].
* [[Jhonen Vasquez]]'s ''I Feel Sick'' is basically aimed at [[Nickelodeon]], according to this [[wikipedia:I Feel Sick|entry here]].
* The Curtis', owners of the comic book company, Shanda Fantasy Arts, upset at the horrific [[Screwed by the Network|screwing]] of ''[[Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew]]'' in their last mini-series where the team is exiled on the main [[The DCU|DCU story world]] and trapped as ordinary animals unable to express their unchanged intelligence. In response, the Curtis', with aid of the series' original creator Roy Thomas, are preparing a special comic book using their ''Atomic Mouse'' license, ''Atomic Mouse Meets Power Jack And The Lost Menagerie'' where apparently the title character will rescue a [[Captain Ersatz|disguised version of the Zoo Crew]] who are suffering an equivalent fate.
** Of course, DC has just undone that editorial misdeed at the end of ''[[Final Crisis]]'', so the hard feelings shouldn't be quite so much.
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** Said protagonist was modeled after Eminem; take that little factoid as you will.
* On one [[Dark Horse Comics|Dark Horse]] message board, a poster was pestering writer Randy Stradley to include Mandalorians in an upcoming comic. They got their comeuppance when a scene in the comic in question showed the Mandalorians in full retreat. When the poster complained, Stradley had one of the following issues feature a whole cave full of ''dead'' Mandalorians.
* [[Twisted Toyfare Theater]] is mostly an [[Affectionate Parody]], albeit a gruesome one, that gets most of its laughs by [[Character Exaggeration|exaggerating characters' flaws to absurdity]]. But every strip featuring an appearance by Brian Bendis will inevitably end with a [[Take That]] toward his writing style.
* The ''[[Doctor Who Magazine]]'' strip "The Deep Hereafter" is an [[Affectionate Parody]] of ''[[Film Noir|noir]]''-ish, [[Pulp Magazine|pulpy]] detective stories in general, and ''[[The Spirit]]'' in particular. One newspaper clipping pinned on the detective's wall reads "[[Frank Miller|Miller]] Kills Colt". Apparently Dan McDaid wasn't a fan of [[The Movie]].
* ''[[2000 AD|Two Thousand AD]]''' prog 1661 took a jab at DC's ''Wednesday Comics''
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