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* [[Alternate Aesop Interpretation]]: behindBehind the friendly family action film, some fans are suspicious of phrases like "celebrating mediocrity" and "everyone is special (so no one is)", as well as the general idea of superhumans being forced to hide their incredible talents for the sake of government regulation and the selfish, (mediocre) masses. Yes, they are indeed suggesting that ''The Incredibles'' is ''[[Atlas Shrugged]]''.
* [[Applicability]]: Some have argued that the movie is an argument for [[Ayn Rand|Objectivism]], with its theme of the characters being discouraged from living up to their full potential by society. Others counter that the message is "be true to yourself", and point out that if the movie were Objectivist, the Parrs wouldn't be using their powers for altruism. Not to mention that Syndrome the self-made engineering genius and millionaire capitalist is pretty much the sort of person Rand most admired. [[Word of God]] says that no higher philosophical meaning was intended.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Buddy Pine, better known as Syndrome, is a a superhero wannabe and a true [[From Nobody to Nightmare|Nobody to Nightmare]]. Early in the film, Buddy interrupts Mr. Incredible, or Bob Parr while fighting the supervillain Bomb Voyage in an attempt to become his sidekick. His careless actions nearly get himself killed and allow Bomb Voyage to escape, leading to Mr. Incredible rightfully turning him down and crushing Buddy's dreams. However, Buddy insteadthen subvertsmurders hisretired potential FreudianExcusesuperheroes by holdingluring onthem to his pettyisland grudgeto intouse adulthood,as andtest subjects initiatesagainst the mass murder of retired superheroes by luring them to his islandOmnidroid. Once Bob finds out, Syndrome beats him down with his Omnidroid and has him tortured to interrogate him, spitefully launching a missile at a plane that he knows has his family on it when he believes that he sent for reinforcements. Showing callous indifference to Mirage once her life is under threat by Bob, Syndrome plans to release the Omnidroid on the populace once he's disposed of Bob, then painting himself as a hero by falsely defeating the Omnidroid. Once foiled, Syndrome kidnaps the infant Incredible Jack-Jack with the intent to corrupt him into becoming like him. Selfish, petty, and all-around murderous, Syndrome stood out as one of Pixar's darkest villains.
* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]: The "no school like the old school" scene is this for anyone not aware of that they are Frank and Ollie of the [[wikipedia:Nine Old Men|Nine Old Men]]. Even after that, the cameo's still pretty out of nowhere.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Buddy Pine, better known as Syndrome, is a a superhero wannabe and a true [[Nobody to Nightmare]]. Early in the film, Buddy interrupts Mr. Incredible, or Bob Parr while fighting the supervillain Bomb Voyage in an attempt to become his sidekick. His careless actions nearly get himself killed and allow Bomb Voyage to escape, leading to Mr. Incredible rightfully turning him down and crushing Buddy's dreams. However, Buddy instead subverts his potential FreudianExcuse by holding on to his petty grudge into adulthood, and initiates the mass murder of retired superheroes by luring them to his island. Once Bob finds out, Syndrome beats him down with his Omnidroid and has him tortured, spitefully launching a missile at a plane that he knows has his family on it. Showing callous indifference to Mirage once her life is under threat by Bob, Syndrome plans to release the Omnidroid on the populace once he's disposed of Bob, then painting himself as a hero by falsely defeating the Omnidroid. Once foiled, Syndrome kidnaps the infant Incredible Jack-Jack with the intent to corrupt him into becoming like him. Selfish, petty, and all-around murderous, Syndrome stood out as one of Pixar's darkest villains.
** It says something about how sick he is that his murders of several supers with the Omnidroid already put him over the Horizon, but it's the extra little things (detailed in [[Moral Event Horizon]] below) that really push him into [[Complete Monster]] territory.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: See [[Film/Awesome Music|here.]]
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** [http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-kid-in-The-Incredibles-that-yells-out-THAT-WAS-TOTALLY-WICKED/280500782275 The kid on the tricylce now has his own fanpage.]
* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: As seen in the page quote for the "main" section. Not that it isn't true, but this is a film made in Hollywood and aimed at kids. Unusual, to say the least.
** Well, it ''was'' written and directed by [[Brad Bird|someone who's worked on]] [[The Simpsons]]. That alone was plenty of warning that [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|Family Unfriendly Aesops]]s were to be expected.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: We all want to see a sequel happen, but at the mere mention and/or thought of it, the fact that [[Pixar]] will only make sequels if they have a good story has a curious tendancytendency to slip people's minds.
** Also the idea that Elasti-Girl, who said in the opening that saving the world should not be left to the men ended up as a ''housewife'' until the Syndrome situation brought the whole family in.
*** That particular setting is not a [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]], but the set up of an [[Irony]]. Mr. Incredible was the one who wanted to settle down, and Elasti-Girl rejected the idea because she was "at the top of [her] game." When the Superhero Relocation program kicks in, guess which one of them has adjusted more easily to civilian life?
* [[Fan Dumb]]: We all want to see a sequel happen, but at the mere mention and/or thought of it, the fact that [[Pixar]] will only make sequels if they have a good story has a curious tendancy to slip people's minds.
* [[Foe Yay]]: Syndrome is beyond way obsessed with Mr. Incredible.
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]:
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** One of the final scenes features [[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog|Mr. Incredible throwing a car at Syndrome's head]].
* [[Late Arrival Spoiler]]: You know the plot twist at the end of the movie? {{spoiler|When Syndrome kidnaps Jack-Jack?}} Yeah, it overlaps with the Jack-Jack attack short, and it seems everyone is perfectly willing to discuss it openly.
** Several people called the Kari phone calls and subsequent Jack-Jack and Syndrome scene a [[Bonus Materials]] deleted scene for the DVD on first viewing of the film. Lo and behold ...
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: NO CAPES [sic].
{{quote|"WHERE'S MY SUPER SUIT?!"
"Coincidence? I THINK '''NOT!'''"
And when everyone/everthing is X... nothing/no one will be! }}
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Syndrome doesn't know at first that Bob's family is on the jet he launches missiles at. But when it's revealed that there are people Bob cares about -- and that there are children on board -- he still refuses to call off the missiles, mocking Bob and laughing at his anguish. When an angry Bob then threatens to kill Mirage if Syndrome doesn't release him, Syndrome's response is "oh, what the heck?" When Bob's threat turns out to be empty, Syndrome again mocks him for being weak.
** Mr. Huph smiling and saying "Well I hope we don't cover him" when seeing a man getting beaten and mugged outside his window, then threatening to fire Bob if he ran out to help. Needless to say, his getting thrown through a wall and several cubicles was extremely satisfying.
* [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene]]: The "no school like the old school" scene is this for anyone not aware of that they are Frank and Ollie of the [[wikipedia:Nine Old Men|Nine Old Men]]. Even after that, the cameo's still pretty out of nowhere.
* [[Sequelitis]]: ''Incredibles 2'' is largely considered a "just okay" compared to the first.
* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Averted by the animators intentionally giving the characters cartoonish proportions.
** Also, the animation designs were a [[Shout-Out|shout out]] to the Rankin-Bass "puppet-toons" of the 60s. Syndrome in particular looks more than a little like Heat Miser.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Even with all the strange happenings with Jack-Jack, Kari hands him over to a '''complete stranger'''? Though she did get called out on it. "That baby was {{spoiler|exploding!}} Have you ever seen an {{spoiler|exploding}} baby, mister?"
* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]
 
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