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[[File:NameOfTheRose_7984.jpg|frame|''Cavete Fratres Franciscanos.''
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'''''The Name
It is set in what has been called the [[Medieval Morons|disastrous]] [[The Late Middle Ages|fourteenth century]], during the period of the Medieval Inquisition. The story, described by some as [[Sherlock Holmes]] [[Recycled in Space|IN THE 14th CENTURY]], follows Brother William of Baskerville and his young friar apprentice, Adso of [[
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* [[Adaptation Decay]] / [[Pragmatic Adaptation]]: The book is a detective mystery interwoven with 500 pages of incredible detail of the religious and political schism in the church that is nearly inscrutable to anyone without a post-graduate degree in Theology and 14th Century Political History. (Or, reasonably arguably, anyone but [[Umberto Eco]].) The movie drops most of the Theology, History and Politics in favor of the detective story.
* [[A Man Is Not a Virgin]]: Adso gets to have one fling before recommitting to chastity; William, his mentor and supposed guardian, says something along the lines of, "Way to go, kid." ▼
** Averted with William, who explicitly admits to Adso that, unlike him, he has never tried "that sort of experience."▼
* [[Asshole Victim]]: In the movie, {{spoiler|Bernardo Gui's cart gets pushed off a cliff by angry peasants, causing him to fall on a spiked thing which kills him. Your heart bleeds for him.}}
* [[Awesomeness By Analysis]]: William, and how.{{context}}
* [[Be
* [[Big Labyrinthine Building]]
* [[The Black Death]]: At the end of the novel, Adso reveals {{spoiler|that William eventually died during the Black Death.}}
* [[Bookcase Passage]]: and tomb passage, too.
* [[Burn the Witch]]: In the film, Brother Salvatore and Brother Remigio are burned at the stake as scapegoats by Father Bernardo Gui, leader of the Inquisition. Gui also tries to burn a local peasant girl, but [[Spared
** Unfortunately, her two fellow "heretics" don't get rescued. Adso was a [[Literal Genie|trifle specific]] in his prayer.
** In the book, Gui prevents this from happening by simply having the three of them transported away and executed elsewhere, where no rescue attempts can occur. (Gui was a historical person, and he was not killed by peasants).
* [[Camp Gay]]: One of the victims
* [[Captain Ersatz]]: William of Baskerville is described as [[Occam's Razor|William of Ockham]] [[X Meets Y|combined with]] [[Sherlock Holmes]] [[Recycled in Space|in the 14th century]].
* [[Celibate Hero]]: William▼
* [[Celebrity Paradox]]: Averted. Does William of Occam exist in this version? Yes, he's a friend of William of Baskerville.
▲* [[Celibate Hero]]: William
* [[Cloudcuckoolander]]: Several, notably the [[Mad Oracle|eccentric]] Ubertino da Casale ''(film only)'', and the deformed Salvatore.
* [[Cold-Blooded Torture]]: Bernard plans to use it on the cellarer, but even the mention of torture is enough for him to admit everything, even things he didn't commit.
* [[Cool Old Guy]]: William, played by [[Sean Connery]].
* [[Corrupt Church]]
* [[Cryptic Conversation]]: Salvatore ([[The Unintelligible|and how]]), Ubertino da Casale, and [[Be
* [[Definitely Final Dungeon]]: The library tower.
* [[Description Porn]]: And how: the book devotes page upon page to descriptions of the church's altar, the entrance to the crypt, Adso's vivid {{spoiler|psychedelic-herb-induced}} visions, and the monastery's relics.
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** …Which in this case also qualifies as {{spoiler|[[Cyanide Pill|suicide]]}}.
* [[Eureka Moment]]: William has one considering the secret of the library. Adso remembers how Salvatore said "tertius equi", which is [[Canis Latinicus]] for "The third of horse" (when he meant "the third horse"). William concludes: "the first and the seventh of the four" really means {{spoiler|"the first and the seventh of the ''word'' four", and "four" is "quatuor" in Latin, so you have to push the letters Q and R!}}
** They had a minor one earlier, when Adso dreamed a story similar to the "Coena Cypriani", a kind of [[The Bible
* [[The Exotic Detective]]▼
* [[Finger-Licking Poison]]
* [[Flanderization]]: The transmogrification of the [[Purity Sue|saintly]] Ubertino da Casale (a minor character) from well-educated, decent, pious (if slightly fanatical) old man to a [[Mad Oracle|creepy]], [[Cryptic Conversation|obtuse]] [[Butt Monkey]] who hits on Adso and is ridiculed by William. Note that the poor guy actually existed.
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** William has to choose between burning to death to save as many books as he can, or abandoning the library.
* [[Gonk]]: The Abbot, the Greek translator, and Adelmo are pretty much the only three of the Benedictine monks who is not frightfully ugly. The worst is undoubtedly [[Ron Perlman|Ron Perlman's]] Salvatore, who doesn't even look human.
* [[The Heretic]]▼
* [[Historical Domain Character]]: Bernard(o) Gui(donis), Ubertino da Casale, Michael of Cesena.
* [[Primal Stance|The Hunchback]]: Salvatore. Played by [[Ron Perlman]] with extreme creepiness in the film.
* [[Impaled
* [[In Which a Trope Is Described]]: In spades. One chapter heading is even self-referential.▼
* [[The Spanish Inquisition|The Inquisition]]
▲* [[In Which a Trope Is Described]]: In spades. One chapter heading is even self-referential.
* [[The Ishmael]]: The narrator is an older Adso.▼
* [[Karma Houdini]]: {{spoiler|Bernardo Guy}} in the book
* [[Knight Templar]]: A whole army of them: the killer, the Dulcinians, the Inquisitors…
* [[The Late Middle Ages]]
* [[Looks Like Orlok]]: The chief librarian monk.▼
* [[The Library of Babel]]: The plot [[The Tower|centers on one]], at the heart of the abbey.
* [[Literary Agent Hypothesis]]: One of the go-to examples.
* [[Lit Fic]]
▲* [[Looks Like Orlok]]: The chief librarian monk.
* [[MacGuffin]]: Averted with the {{spoiler|Second Book of the}} ''{{spoiler|Poetics}}''{{spoiler|, which is both thematically relevant to the story and, ironically, the murder weapon of most of the killings}}
* [[Mad Oracle]]: Ubertino is considered to be this in the film.
▲* [[A Man Is Not a Virgin]]: Adso gets to have one fling before recommitting to chastity; William, his mentor and supposed guardian, says something along the lines of, "Way to go, kid."
▲** Averted with William, who explicitly admits to Adso that, unlike him, he has never tried "that sort of experience."
* [[Meaningful Name]]: William of Baskerville. The name is a two-part [[Shout-Out]] to logician and monk William of Ockham and [[Sherlock Holmes|a certain fictional detective.]]
** Also, the blind monk Jorge of Burgos is a
* [[Medieval Morons]]: William [[Mary Sue|himself]] and the sensible [[The Watson|Adso]] make everyone else look fanatical or dumb, at least in the movie. In the novel, many people show a great deal of scholarly knowledge and expertise, but William is about the only one who can escape beyond the stagnated and fundamentalist nature of medieval learning.
* [[Mind Screw]]: How to access the secret room in the library. "The hand over the idol?/image?{{spoiler|/mirror!}} should move (how exactly?) the first and the seventh of the four(???)".
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* [[Ominous Latin Chanting]]: Goes with the territory.
* [[Out-of-Genre Experience]]: In-genre [[Lit Fic|for the book]], but the film pauses the action for a theological debate between the progressive, liberal Franciscans and the Vatican emissaries over the question of whether Jesus owned the clothes that he wore.
* [[Poetic Serial Killer]]
* [[Pyrrhic Victory]]: {{spoiler|In the book the library burns, the book is destroyed and Bernardo gets away with the torture and unjust execution of three people. This proved to be too dark for the movie, in which, at least, Bernardo dies and the girl lives}}.
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* [[Rape Is Love]]
** Actually, the girl kind of jumps on Adso, but after the initial shock he seems quite willing -- and even enthusiastic. He's a young man who probably struggles even against the desire to masturbate. Few would have more self-control in that situation. William later says that in Adso's place "even a father in the desert would have damned himself".
* [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]]: William gives one to {{spoiler|Jorge}} at the end.▼
* [[Recycled in Space]]: The story is basically a medieval [[Sherlock Holmes]] mystery in addition to the literary elements.
* [[Red Herring]]: {{spoiler|The connection between the various deaths and the seven trumpets of Revelation turns out to be a coincidence after all}}. When this theory is discussed openly, the killer decides to run with it, which complicates things further.
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*** Someone lucky enough to have read Borges's short story ''Death and the Compass'' will see the connection to this story clearly
* [[Shown Their Work]]: Not surprising, as Eco is a scholar of the Middle Ages.
* [[Spared
* [[Theme Serial Killer]]: The killings follow symbolism from the Book of Revelations. {{spoiler|As it turns out, this is mostly by accident.}}
* [[Tome of Eldritch Lore]]: The lost dialogue of Aristotle is assumed to be this. {{spoiler|[[Finger-Licking Poison|it's actually poisoned]]}}.
* [[Torture Always Works]]: Averted. William used to be an inquisitor, but avoided using torture. He explains that
▲* [[The Exotic Detective]]
▲* [[The Heretic]]
▲* [[The Ishmael]]: The narrator is an older Adso.
▲* [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]]: William gives one to {{spoiler|Jorge}} at the end.
▲* [[Torture Always Works]]: Averted. William used to be an inquisitor, but avoided using torture. He explains that poeople under torture say not only what the inquisitor wants, but also what they imagine might please him. Later, when Bernard intorrogates the cellarer, the threat of torture is enogh for him to admit that he committed all the murders (which he didn't do).
* [[The Tower]]: The hidden and locked library looms over the monastery, tall, dark, [[Living Labyrinth|labyrinthine]] and foreboding. Eco helpfully draws a diagram of it for readers.
* [[Title Drop]]: The posfacium quote.▼
* [[The Unintelligible]]: Salvatore, played by Ron Perlman.
* [[The Watson]]: Adso, naturally.▼
▲* [[Title Drop]]: The posfacium quote.
* [[Viewers Are Geniuses]]
* [[Villain Teleportation]]: {{spoiler|Jorge}}'s ability to get in and around the library unseen.
▲* [[The Watson]]: Adso, naturally.
* [[What a Senseless Waste of Human Life|What A Senseless Waste Of
* [[Wimp Fight]]: Subverted: William and Jorge are both senescent intellectuals. They know absolutely nothing about fighting...[[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|but will do absolutely anything to win.]]
* [[Witch Hunt]]: Literally.
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