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[[File:Kenobi.jpg|link=Star Wars|frame|[[Jedi Mind Trick|This is not the trope you're looking for.]]]]
{{quote|''"[[Genre Savvy|Well, as an older mentor figure]], the most likely scenario is that [[He's Back|I'd return]] [[Back for The Dead|only to be]] [[Dropped a Bridge On Him|randomly killed]] by an enemy of yours so that you can [[Died in Your Arms Tonight|cradle my dying body]] while [[
A [[Mentors|mentor]] who travels with the main character and often has some sort of magic powers or at least a brilliant mind. Even though this character is better skilled, faster and [[Older and Wiser|more experienced]] than the protagonist, they aren't [[The Hero]], either because they are not [[The Chosen One]] or because they have already [[Retired Badass|grown too old for the task]]. Their role is to [[Chekhov's Skill|introduce a new skill]] or [[Training From Hell|sharpen the current skills]] of the protagonist, often hoping to [[Passing the Torch|pass the torch]] because they know their career is [[End of an Age|coming to an end]]. Expect him to have a very calm attitude as if he has wisdom that he will give out in his own due time.
This character [[Mentor Occupational Hazard|will almost always]] [[The Plot Reaper|die]] so that the protagonist can [[In the End You Are On Your Own|learn to stand on his own two feet]]. Their death will also be a great motivator as it gives the protagonists [[It's Personal|a chance for vengeance]]. Afterwards, they'll usually become a [[Spirit Advisor]], either as a literal "spirit" or in [[Flash Back|flashbacks]]. If they ''don't'' die, they will stick around giving advice, but [[Non
The Obi-Wan can also play [[Mr. Exposition]] and as [[The Chooser of the One]].
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Warning: this is a [[Death Trope]]; there be spoilers ahead.
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== Anime & Manga ==
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* Meta Knight more or less takes this role in the ''[[Kirby]]'' anime, among with a number of other repurposed characters. Although he doesn't seem to have died yet, he's made the odd non-fatal [[Heroic Sacrifice]] for Kirby's sake.
* Of all of ''[[Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple]]'''s six masters, "The Philosophical Jujutsu User" Koetsuji Akisame best fits the description of The Obi-Wan. Other eligible candidates are [[Dirty Old Man|Ma Kensei]] and [[Badass Grandpa|Hayato Fuurinji]].
* Sword Saint Shiba of ''[[Rave Master]]'' passes the titular role to Haru Glory and sends Haru to the man best suited to repairing the Rave Master's blade after it's broken. True to trope, he experiences an [[Obi
* Subverted with Hiko Seijuro, Kenshin's master in ''[[Rurouni Kenshin]]'': {{spoiler|he fully expects to die at Kenshin's hand after passing on the succession technique, but Kenshin's reverse blade sword saves his life. Hiko then goes on to pull a [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment later in the arc, arriving in the nick of time to save Kenshin's protege Yahiko from being killed.}}
* Parodied in ''[[Excel Saga (Anime)|Excel Saga]]'' when [[Author Avatar|Nabeshin]] appears to give [[Genki Girl|Excel]] the technique needed to defeat a [[What Do You Mean
* Rakan in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' becomes this to Negi. He later questions whether Negi should be the type of "hero" who he'd be doing this for.
{{quote| "You're not actin' much like a main character, are you? You're one of those characters who dies holding off the enemies three chapters before the end of the series!"}}
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** In Trunks' timeline, Gohan fill this role to a T. He trains Trunks, {{spoiler|and dies fighting the Androids, which causes Trunks to first go Super Saiyan}}.
* Katsuhito mostly fits this trope in ''[[Tenchi Universe]]'', although he winds up only badly injured rather than dead.
* With the exception that he merely makes his swords and doesn't train him in using them, since he's a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], and he doesn't travel along with him, this is Godo from ''[[Berserk]]'' and how he acts toward Guts. He lets Guts stay with him for a year to train, gives him all sorts of neat weapons and equipment, and gives him plenty of insight on personal ambitions and life in his own way. He's the only guy that actually manages to make Guts [[What the Hell, Hero?|shut up and think about his actions for once]] and puts him in his place, something that the Skull Knight can't even succeed in doing. This is one of his last great feats {{spoiler|before he dies of old age, [[Your Days Are Numbered|something that he is well aware of]]. He [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] this when Guts comes back to his house for the first time in two years to check on Casca.}} Because of all of this, Godo's in [[Cool Old Guy]] territory.
* Kero (Small form) from [[Cardcaptor Sakura (Manga)|Cardcaptor Sakura]].
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* The old priest in ''[[Nation]]''. Subverted by the fact that the young hero, Mau, doesn't want to hear a damn thing he has to say -- in the wake of the tsunami that devastates their area of the Great Pelagic Ocean, the old priest is clinging to his faith, while Mau violently rejects it... [[Flat Earth Atheist|despite being continually harassed by the spirits of his ancestors and Locaha, the god of death]]. Played straight, though, in that he helps Mau become the leader the refugees desperately need, and is killed at the end of the second act.
* Tirandys in P.C. Hodgell's ''[[Chronicles of the Kencyrath]]'' is The Obi-Wan for Jame, and dies tragically at the end of Book 2, ''Dark of the Moon''. Subverted in that he's [[The Dragon]]'s man and was supposed to raise Jame up to be a good evil minion.
* Doctor Morgenes of [[Tad Williams]]' ''[[Memory Sorrowand Thorn]]'' plays this role for Simon, taking the wayward kitchen boy under his tutelage and giving him some rudimentary schooling. He's really a member of the League of the Scroll, a group of scholars dedicated to preventing the [[Sealed Evil in A Can|return]] of the [[Big Bad|Storm King]], and Simon isn't [[Moses in The
* Bluestar of ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' is a female version for the first two books, before going into a [[Heroic BSOD]] and finally dying. Then she continues giving advice from the afterlife.
* Kelsier in Brandon Sanderson's ''[[Mistborn]]'' plays this trope completely straight.
* DCI Nightingale in ''[[Rivers of London]]'' is an example of [[The Obi
* Henry Sturges, the ethical vampire who teaches Abe his vocation, fills this role in ''[[Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter]]''. Unusually, not only does Henry not die, {{spoiler|he eventually turns Abe into a fellow-vampire, and the two are fighting evil blood-suckers to this day.}}
* The Wheel of Time:
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* Jema from ''[[Secret of Mana]]''.
* When one thinks Mentors from ''[[Pokémon]]'', the Profs spring to mind. But a better example is Cynthia, the Champion from the Sinnoh games. Aside from acting as a local [[Deus Ex Machina]], she seems to have to taken a shine to you, and supplies you with hints and helpful [[MacGuffin|MacGuffins]] and [[Plot Coupons]]. In Platinum, this becomes very pronounced when you go into the Distortion World with her. Unlike the darker examples of this trope, where the Hero kills The Obi-Wan, when you defeat her at the end of the game, she says she's proud of you. This is Pokemon, after all.
* Duncan in ''[[Dragon Age]] Origins'' acts as [[The Lancer|Alistair's]] Obi-Wan; having been his Senior in the Grey Wardens and a surrogate father figure for months by the time you meet him in your Origin Story. Duncan's involvement with the player character is arguably too limited for him to count as his/her Obi-Wan too, though he does save your ass in each of the Origin Stories. {{spoiler|He has an [[Obi
** According to the toolset, it at least tries to make Duncan seem like a mentor figure to the player, as that's his character description.
* {{spoiler|Master Eraqus}}, from ''[[Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep]]''. [[Hilarious in Hindsight|Amusingly]], his English voice actor is [[Mark Hamill]].
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