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There are some things that don't typically get called out on it despite using it merely because it just ''works''. Such as say, several [[RPG Elements]] and control schemes in general.
 
You'll notice that sometimes this trope is invoked not ''only'' by [[Fandom Rivalry|rival fans]] and [[Hate Dumb|trolly haters]], but people who actually aren't fans of the genre, even so much as [[Hatedom|hating it in its entirety]]. You'll notice that when people are typically not fans of a genre or series, similar to its cousin [[ItsIt's the Same, SoNow It Sucks]]. The two almost go hand-in-hand, this way, since a non-fan would not really notice how many subtle differences since, after all, they see it and aren't looking for that stuff, that is, [[BlindComplaining About Shows You Don't BashingWatch|if they actually see the work they're invoking this trope, on]]. Sometimes people are actually calling out things based upon ''meta-concepts'' of the genre.
 
This is the justification behind [[Sequelphobic|Sequelphobia]]. Compare [[Older Than They Think]]. Compare and sometimes contrast with [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]] when the original suffers due to amount (and sometimes the quality) of similar works released later. Not to be confused with [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]], where a sequel or an official adaptation changes an aspect of an original work for better or worse. Also not to be confused with [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]], the polar opposite.
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See also [[It's Been Done]].
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
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** And Mecha Musume is just Humikane's brand. Mecha ''Shoujo'' was around quite a while before that.
* ''[[Initial D Arcade Stage]]'' fans like to do this to ''[[Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune]]''. Which is particularly ludicrous, given that Initial D's type of racing (mountain pass) and Wangan Midnight's type of racing (highway) aren't even remotely comparable. Wangan Midnight has more in common with ''[[Out Run]]'' or ''Super Bikes'' than ''Initial D''.
* Watching the first few episodes of ''[[Gun X Sword]]'' get it called ''[[Trigun]]'' [[Instant Awesome, Just Add Mecha|but with mechs]] and compared to many works like it. [http://www.animenewsnetwork.comcc//review/gunxsword/dvd-1 One review] even said that it was ripping off every major show it could, and how it obviously was made to pander to an American audience. Of course true fans of the show will know that it stands very strongly on its own.
** Not only is it ''not'' [[Trigun]] with mechs, but the cast come across their first large body of water as early as episode '''2''', and a few episodes later leave the desert entirely. Needless to say, any similarities to Trigun stop right there.
* ''[[Harukanaru Toki no Naka de]]'' constantly gets bashed by reviewers for being ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]'' with [[Serial Numbers Filed Off]], on the grounds of having exactly the same combination of plot devices<ref>[[Trapped in Another World]] + [[Fantasy Counterpart Culture]] + [[Miko]] + [[The Four Gods]] + [[Cast Full of Pretty Boys]] + [[Gotta Catch Them All]] + [[Debut Queue]] + [[Elemental Powers]] + [[Personality Powers]] + [[Bodyguard Crush]]</ref> as the basis. Note that ''Haruka'' is originally a [[Shoujo|female-oriented]] [[Dating Sim]], for which a premise of a girl getting stuck in a fantasy world with loads of pretty guys as her guardians wouldn't exactly be a bad idea.
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* Do ''not'' ever start drawing comparisons between the new ''[[James Bond (film)|James Bond]]'' series (starting with ''[[Casino Royale]]'') and the [[The Bourne Series (film)|Jason Bourne films]] in front of a large group of Bond fans. Half will agree with you and the other half will ''unleash the fury''.
** Then there's [[The Transporter|Frank Martin]], described by one reviewer as "a sort of third-party international man of mystery for those who think James Bond is too effete and Jason Bourne just doesn't have enough chest hair."
** While on Bond, the unofficial ''[[Never Say Never Again]]'', which as [[Agony Booth]]'s Mr. Mendo [https://web.archive.org/web/20130917025513/http://www.agonybooth.com/video286_Never_Say_Never_Again_James_Bond.aspx put]:
{{quote|"If this looks like a ripoff of [[Thunderball|a better Bond film]]... [[Recycled Script|it's because it is]]!"}}
* ''[[Beowulf (film)|Beowulf]]'' was wrongfully accused of trying to rip off ''~300~'' because of the main character's signature phrase ''"I AM BEOWULF!"'' is somehow similar to ''"THIS IS SPARTAA!!!"''. How that becomes ''ripoff material'' is beyond some people. Let's also recall that [[ThisPunctuated! IsFor! SpartaEmphasis!|we have an entire page full of examples of people yelling that way]], and that ''Beowulf'' [[Animation Lead Time|was filmed first, anyway.]]
** Before both of them, there was a film starring Leonidas himself, called ''Beowulf & Grendel''. For some reason, no-one ever knows about it.
*** Because, just like the more recent Beowulf film, it's only ''very'' loosely based on ''Beowulf'', has enormous amounts of [[Adaptation Expansion]], leaves out at ''[[Everybody Remembers the Stripper|least]]'' half the [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|meme source]] (which does nothing to stop it from being ''good'', just saying), [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|and had a]] [[Best for Last|low]] (or poorly used) [[Screwed by the Network|advertising]] [[Viral Marketing|budget]]. Thus is shown the [[Your Mileage May Vary|blur]] of the gap between "[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]" and "[[ItsIt's the Same, SoNow It Sucks|It's The Same]]/TheyCopiedItSoItSucksThey Copied It, So It Sucks".
* A lot of people figured ''[[The One (film)|The One]]'' was just a rip off of ''[[The Matrix]]'', only with [[Jet Li]] and more bullet time sequences. Considering that it came out practically soon after the first Matrix film and uses many of the same conventions, it was bound to be met with a little negativity, regardless of the fact that the two movies could not be more different.
** While we're on the subject, ''anything'' remotely resembling "[[Bullet Time]]" after ''[[The Matrix]]''.
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* ''Top Gear'' on the American History Channel is a direct spin-off from the successful British ''[[Top Gear]]'', copying the latter series' use of three presenters, The Stig, silly themed segments, style of cinematography and auto reviews, and cramming celebrities into a small car.
* In ''[[Psych]]'', Shawn walks up to a police department desk and identifies himself as a psychic. "Like ''[[The Mentalist]]'' only [[Hypocritical Humor|not fake]]."
* A newer example that will likely only get worse: there is a good deal of ire directed at ''[[Stargate Universe]]'' by people claiming it's a rip-off of ''[[Battlestar Galactica Reimagined]](2004 TV series)|the reimagined ''Battlestar Galactica'']].
** [[Battlestar Galactica (1978 TV series)|The original ''[[Battlestar Galactica Classic]]'']] still gets much criticism today for ripping off ''[[Star Wars]]''. No wonder the [[Darker and Edgier]] remake received rave reviews as it strayed from being a typical show [[Recycled in Space|about a space colony]] as far as possible.
* A possible case is ''[[Robin of Sherwood]]'' and the later ''[[Robin Hood (TV series)|Robin Hood]]''. The second series of ''[[Robin of Sherwood]]'' ended with Robin's death, and there is speculation that the second season finale of ''[[Robin Hood (TV series)|Robin Hood]]'' chose to kill off Maid Marian in the attempt to emulate what the creators' believed was the "shock value" of the predecessingpredecessor series, except of course that they killed Marian instead of Robin. The key difference was that the former series had to write around [[Absentee Actor|Michael Praed's]] decision to leave the show, whereas Marian's death in the later series was a creative decision and had nothing to do with actress Lucy Griffith (despite later attempts to blame the decision on her). Although ''[[Robin of Sherwood]]'' brought in a [[Legacy Character|"new" Robin Hood]], neither series survived more than one more season without their leads.
* Any pair of young, male presenters on British television will be compared to ''[[Ant and Dec]]'' and accused of trying to copy them. Ironically, many of the comparisons aren't by Ant and Dec fans, but by people who dislike them and therefore conclude that anyone remotely similar to them is exactly like them.
* ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' was released around the time when ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' was becoming very popular and received accusation of copying it... Being lost in space, a holographic character... (They even had "Blue Alert")
** Inverted with ''[[Stargate Universe]]'', which from the moment it was announced was mockingly referred to as ''Stargate: Voyager''.
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== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* [[TNA]] has been mocked as "[[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] Lite" due to its occasional gimmicks and storylines similar to those used by "that promotion up north."
** Not to mention that they also hire many former WWE talents (Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, Mick Foley, Taz, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Tara (Victoria), Team 3D (The Dudley Boys), Bobby Lashley, Elijah Burke, Stevie Richards, Matt Morgan, Rhino, and Shiek Abdul Bashir (Daivari) are all currently on the active TNA roster).
** Current Roster, add in what they've siphoned from the WWE development, previous refrees/commentators, copied gimmicks...if TNA even signs a guy who's been looked at by a WWE employee wrestling fans will complain.
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** "It's like WOW" has become a common complaint about ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]] Fourth Edition'', despite the fact that many of the alleged WOW elements started in [[Older Than You Think|D&D itself]].
** 'WOW Clone' is a frequent insult used against games that are deemed too similar to [[World of Warcraft]] or simly too mainstream or lacking a feature the speaker likes.
* Speaking of [[World of Warcraft]], let's not forget the "It's [[High Fantasy]] for the lowest common denominator" or "It's just a ripoff of Lord of the Rings". But you can bet 90% of these people are trolls who are just mindless anti-fans who don't know how they practically have nothing in common with each other beyond common [[High Fantasy]] traits and some nods to it. (Such as the human male joke about the "Ruler of the bracelet" due to the movies being released around the time [[WoW]] was, and icecrown having similar architecture) If you're saying [[World of Warcraft]] is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings, you '''''also''''' have to say Warhammer is to escape the fallacy, because by your logic, all [[High Fantasy]] is [[The Lord of the Rings]].
** It was openly admitted that the Ice Crown was a Mordor rip-o... I mean, [[Shout-Out]]. The Lich King bears some visual similarities to Sauron too. Blizzard [[Lampshade Hanging|makes fun of it]]. Everyone laughs. Punch is served.
** Speaking of which, practically the archetypal [[Fan Dumb]] related to this trope is Warhammer vs. Warcraft. Each side accuses the other of stealing... basically everything from the other. For instance, the endless debates about which came first, the [[Bug War|Tyranids or the Zerg]] (''[[Alien]]'' did it before either, for the record, and ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' did it [[Older Than You Think|before that]]). To put it bluntly, both Wars were ripping off their predecessors rather than each other.
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*** And again...look at tech companies who shamelessly "Steal from each other". Games are no different.
* Some may say that [[Fate Extra]] is just [[Persona 3]] with [[Fate/stay night]] characters and concepts. The fact that bosses happen every full moon and two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the developing team doesn't help.
* A meta-example. During the development of ''[[Quake II]]'' and ''[[Unreal]]'', members of [[Id Software]] and [[Epic Games]]'s teams would often sling mud at eachother in their public .plan files, which reached the point of one of Unreal's staff members openly accusing the team at id of stealing ideas from Unreal. His justification? ''"[https://web.archive.org/web/20120612054257/http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/june03/dumbestmoments/index2.shtml Unreal has a bald guy and a girl with a ponytail. Quake II has a bald guy and a girl with a ponytail]."''
* Fans of [[Rhythm GamesGame]]s are divided over whether ''In The Groove'' is this and had [[Screwed by the Network|it]] coming for being too ''[[Dance Dance Revolution]]''-like or a quality [[Follow the Leader]] game that shouldn't have had its life cut short.
* There have been accusations of ''Tiki Towers'' being a ripoff of ''[[World of Goo]]'', despite using slightly different gameplay mechanics.
* ''[[Xenogears]]'': Red head heroine, Giant robots and religious tones: "This is an ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' rip-off", said some [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|uninformed fans of the anime]]. The usual answer they get is "Xenogears is '''very different''': [[Take That|the story actually makes sense]]."
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*** The lyrics for "[[One-Winged Angel]]" were all ripped from "O Fortuna" anyway.
* Some people are bashing ''[[TMNT]]: Smash Up'', because it has the ''[[Super Smash Bros.]].'' engine, panning it because they think it will be Super Smash Bros. [[In Space|with Turtles]], but the gameplay is showing that there are some differences, namely that there are health meters rather then stock damage, the enviroments change consistently, and guard breaks are different, and the people developing the game in question? The team who MADE Super Smash Bros., as well as Team Ninja, so they're really bashing themselves.
** And now - never mind it took until 2012 - Sony has its own [[Alternate Company Equivalent]]: ''[[Play StationPlayStation All -Stars Battle Royale]]''. The Nintendo fandom's response has been ''furious''.
* I'm not sure if there was any back then, but I'm pretty sure ''[[DuckTales (1987)]]'' or ''[[Darkwing Duck]]'' may have been labeled ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'' ripoffs because of similar engines (Okay, Darkwing Duck used the ''5'' engine, but still), Ducktales had it's own original gameplay though, your weapon didn't shoot plasma at the opponent, you had to use Scrooge's cane as a weapon, pogo stick (not making that up), and to trigger things, ''[[Darkwing Duck]]'' works a little more similar to Mega Man, so it's slightly more justified, the only difference? You can grab a hold of something to get higher in the stage.
** Of course, given that they were ''made'' by ''CAPCOM''...Definitive [[Did Not Do the Research|research failures]] there.
* ''[[Thrill Drive]]'', a popular game that ran contrary to ''[[Burnout]]'' concept of taking out other cars in a violent matter had a 4th installation that ran contrary to everything that made Thrill Drive the game it was with [[Power-Up]] items, a system that encourage maximum carnage as well as [[Boost Pad]], Japanese fans were not too amused
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* ''[[Killer Instinct]]'' was accused of this for trying to be like [[Mortal Kombat]].
* ''[[F-Zero]]'' fans occasionally consider ''[[Wipeout]]'' a rip-off.
* [[Rock Band]] fans often claim [[Guitar Hero]] stole any number of ideas, the most notable one being full band play. The less-informed will argue the opposite, not realizing (or ignoring) that Guitar Hero 1 & 2 were made by Harmonix (Forbes gets it wrong in [https://web.archive.org/web/20130101065939/http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/052_3.html this article]). Meanwhile, Guitar Hero is inspired from Guitar Freaks in Japan, but that game only had three frets, no hammer-ons, and Konami [[Frivolous Lawsuit|seemed pretty determined]] [[No Export for You|to deprive non-Japanese gamers of it]].
* Any Stealth-Action Game will inevitably get compared to and get accused of copying either [[Metal Gear Solid]] or [[Syphon Filter]](...which is accused of being a Metal Gear Solid clone itself)
* Because of the use of [[High Fantasy]] elements and Elijah Wood, many of [[Spyro the Dragon|the older Spyro]] [[Fan Dumb]] bashes the ''Legend'' series for being a [[The Lord of the Rings]] rip off... Considering that the ''Legend'' series doesn't even have [[Five Races]], has [[Steampunk]] elements, and no rings involved. [[Fridge Logic|And you play as a dragon...]]
* [[Limbo of the Lost]] gets most of its flak for [[Plagiarism|stealing copyrighted assets]] from games like ''[[Thief]]'', ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'', ''Painkiller'', ''[[Return to Castle Wolfenstein]]'' and ''[[Unreal Tournament]]'', among others.
** Incredibly, this is largely averted by many reviews: despite the ''literal'' copying, this is often only one of many criticisms of the game's overall perceived quality.
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** This was actually intentional, according to [[Word of God]], Lightning was conceived as a "female Cloud".
* The [[Wii U]]'s controller currently gets some hate for looking too similar to the iPad.
* Does your [[Simulation Game]] feature real-life aircraft, [[Airstrike Impossible|trench run missions]], a plot where two factions are at war with each other, and the ability to customize your aircraft, along with a silent-but-deadly, faceless protagonist who somehow has a knack of racking up a massive kill count with or without allies and things like that? If so, then consider your game to be a rip-off of [[Ace Combat]].
* ''[[Castlevania: Lords of Shadow]]'' is declared [[God of War (series)|God of War]]'s ripoff due to their similarities in combat mechanisms. To the lesser extent, Castlevania games on [[PlayStation 2]] are compared with [[Devil May Cry]] because of their battle systems and [[White-Haired Pretty Boy]] protagonists.
* ''[[Play StationPlayStation All -Stars Battle Royale]]'' is already getting slammed for being a ripoff of ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', despite a Sony version of SSB being in demand for quite a while before the idea for the game was offically conceived. SSB [[wikipedia:Nekketsu Kakutō Densetsu|wasn't even the first]] [[Mascot Fighter]]. But in the complainers' defense, it doesn't help that a Nintendo Wii can be seen in the background in a photo on the game's website.
 
 
== Web Original ==
* Don't ''ever'' do [[Caustic Critic|ranting reviews]] on [[YouTube]], unless you want to be labeled an [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|AVGN]] ripoff.
** And there are videos on [[YouTube]] calling the AVGN a Seanbaby ripoff. This is because seanbaby predates AVGN, and made fun of NES games for pretty much the same reasons. Some of his lines are even almost exactly the same.
* Many Abridged series are dismissed just for copying [[Little Kuriboh]], regardless of whether they have different jokes or even parody the series differently. This can come off as a bit hypocrital, given Kuriboh's own heavy reliance on pop culture references.
** ''[[Naruto Abridged]]'' made fun of this.
{{quote|You're copying Little Kuriboh! He said the word "the", and you so said it in your last episode!}}
*** Since The Abridged Genre runs on [[Follow the Leader]], this was inevitable...
* Many people on [[Deviant ART]] are just eager to pounce on people that copied (just short of actually taking the person's work) artwork off someone else or made a similar picture, whether by accident or on purpose. Even putting characters in similar poses will get many people flamed because "true art" is original. The mentality can get so bad that all it takes is one artist making a journal crying that someone ripped off his or her work and the people responding go and flame the hell out of the target.
** Never '''EVER''' draw in anything that's even remniscent of anime. Period. You will immmediatly be told that you copied and now it sucks. Never '''ever''' draw fanart. You are copying.
** One art thief actually tried to use this to her advantage. Jen "Spunkywulf" Seng is a very popular artist and animator, especially in the [[Furry Fandom]]. An artist named "Mochi" may have traced her art and that of others. After Jen and her friend tried to discuss it privately, Mochi wrote a journal entry making Jen out to be some sort of elitist who was begrudging Mochi being "inspired" by her work, presumably expecting Jen to be cowed by the flames of Mochi's few hundred fans. Unfortunately, Jen herself has ''thousands'' of fans, and she was perfectly willing to call Mochi out. [http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3358[Hilarity Ensues|Hilarity ensued]].
** One of the more hilarious aspects of DA is how the Whiteknighting sometimes backfires against the artists themselves. LetsLet's say you want to draw things your parents/relations wouldn't agree with too much. Perhaps you're even a squeaky clean artist who wants to throw a couple boobies into your work to avoid people FROM work from finding out and getting you canned. So you make a new name, and upload new works to that, and gain fans. Eventually, one of your thousands of old fans finds the new account and starts watching...And then they notice minor similarities like how you draw hands and how the new account has no signature on pictures. [[Fan Dumb|Cue mass reporting spree for art theft.]] Even if they aren't trying to hide from anyone, if they make a second account on a whim, for example furry artist Inuki...yea...
** Despite the fact that many people do not like copying of styles, some artists actually ''encourage'' other artists to mimic their style. One mention should go to Razzek, a woman who pressingly tells people to draw characters (whether original or Fan Art) in her style. [[Small Name, Big Ego|Being how she is both on DA and on other sites]], some people have actually given into her demands and it has resulted in a lot of various characters being nearly "rip offs" of the artist's style.
*** Really though, this is just one of the ''many'' "artistic-heads" that cause over half of the trends (and problems) in [[Deviant ART]]. If someone has been on DA long enough, has enough artistic talent to win over some fans, and possibly a [[Small Name, Big Ego|big ego]], you can bet your bottom dollar that those fans will mimic the artist's style because they think it's good. Sadly, this results in less variety of styles and more so the whole "tracing/copying wars" that are seen by those who [[The Theme Park Version|think of the place as Deviant Tart]], where as those who actually have their unique style and ideas never really get noticed.
** Probably because deviantART ''was'' ear-deep in <s>filter-processed copypasted pics</s> "[http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Image:Tartletmanual.jpg Tracing]" for long. Which in itself [[Tropes Are Not Bad|isn't "horrible"]], of course—as long as the works such remix is derived from are given proper credits.
* Several people outside of Japan compare MAD Videos and other similar videos mostly found on Nico Nico Douga (NND) to [[YouTube]] Poop, though Know Your Meme researchers found that [[MA Ds]] were created as far back as 1978, 28 years before [[YouTube]] Poop was created.
** Some people outside of Japan refer to [[MA Ds]] as [[YouTube]] Poop Music Videos ([[YTPM Vs]]), though [[MA Ds]] are usually made with talent and soul, while [[YT Ps]] and [[YTPM Vs]] are often less artistic.
* Every gaming webcomic that isn't ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' has been accused of ripping off the same.
** ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' itself summed the trope up: the difference between "derivative" and "[[Homage]]" is "Whether or not I liked it".
 
 
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* [[Dreamworks Animation]] has been hit with accusations of ripping off [[Pixar]] with [[Antz|An]][[A Bug's Life|tz]] and [[Shark Tale|Shark]] [[Finding Nemo|Tale]] being the most prominent offenders (It didn't help that [[Dueling Movies|the movies came out in the same years as each other]]). Comparisons between [[Flushed Away]] and [[Ratatouille]], [[Shrek]] and [[Monsters, Inc.]], and now [[Megamind]] and [[The Incredibles]] are also common.
* ''Every'' adult animated series after 1990 copied ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]''. Some, like ''Capital Critters'', ''Family Dog'', ''The Oblongs'', and ''Fish Police'', got canceled just as quickly as they premiered; others, like ''Futurama'', ''[[South Park]]'', and the [[Seth MacFarlane]] trio (''[[Family Guy]]'', ''[[American Dad]]'', and ''The Cleveland Show'') are still around, while others, like ''Daria'' and ''[[King of the Hill]]'' were [[Long Runners]] that did suffer from some mild to moderate [[Seasonal Rot]] thanks to [[Characterization Marches On]], [[Flanderization]], and/or [[Executive Meddling]], but managed to be entertaining from beginning to end. It should be noted to the ignorant that ''[[The Honeymooners]]'', ''[[The Flintstones]]'', and ''[[Wait Till Your Father Gets Home]]'' (an obscure late 1960s animated [[Dom Com]] set up as a cartoon version of ''[[All in The Family]]'') are the real inspirations behind ''[[The Simpsons]]''.
*** A fact lampshaded on ''[[The Simpsons]]'' when in court deciding who owned the rights to Itchy and Scratchy. Roger Meyers pointed out shows that owed their existence to earlier shows, naming ''[[The Flintstones]]'' and ''[[The Honeymooners]]'', then asking the judge, "If you take away our right to steal ideas, where are they going to come from?" He then points to Marge, whose best "original" idea for a cartoon is "Ghost Mutt."
* There's a rather large controversy on the internet regarding whether or not ''[[The Lion King]]'' is a rip-off of the classic anime series ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]''. Comparisons between the two can be seen here- [http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm Yeah, a LOT of similarities, aren't there?]
** This was even referenced in ''[[The Simpsons]]'' in which [[The Lion King|Mufasa]] appears in the clouds to Lisa and says-"[[Take That|Kimba...I mean--]][[Last-Second Word Swap|Simba]]...avenge me."
** Except for the fact that the actual stories are as different as night and day.
*** Agree. Most of those "similarities" aren't exclusiveexclusively from Kimba, and lots of them are explained because both stories are based on ''[[Bambi]]''. In fact, ''[[The Lion King]]'' was called "Bamblet" when it was on the making, though the main themes of the movie, [[Cain and Abel|like good brother vs evil brother]], or the king who returns to claim his throne [[Older Than You Think|are present in many myths]].
** Not as many as ''[[Hamlet]]'' and the African ''Tale Ofof Sundiata''.
*** Though the people behind Lion King did give credit to [[Hamlet]], at least. There probably be lessing [[Internet Backdraft|ranting]] if they at least said there was similarities.
*** And, interestingly, ''[[Hamlet]]'' ''itself'' was a pretty blatant copy of the Danish legend of Amled. So supposedly, Disney ripped off a ripoff.
** When you consider that the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14TwUGQ3xE ending they originally had planned] kinda hits the nail home.
* Speaking of the above, ''[[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]]'' would also have produced less [[Internet Backdraft|ranting]] if Disney had simply admitted (with no shame required really) that their character concepts were based from ''[[Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water]]''. There was a counter-argument that Nadia itself had characters and concepts copied from other shows, including western shows.
** Atlantis, from start to finish, was also like the ''Stargate'' movie.
*** The creators have admitted to taking a good deal from [[Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea]].
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* [[Angel's Friends]] was accussed of being a rip-off of [[Winx Club]], which was accussed of being a rip-off of [[WITCH (animation)|WITCH]], which was accussed of being a rip-off of [[Sailor Moon]], which was accussed of being a rip-off of [[Wonder Woman]]
* [[Cow and Chicken]] was accused of being a ripoff of [[Ren and Stimpy]]. This is rather ironic, seeing as how Cow And Chicken is actually [[John Kricfalusi]]'s favorite cartoon from the 1990's.
** Rather irritatingly, ''[[Rocko's Modern Life]]'' also was frequently accused of being a ''[[Ren and Stimpy]]'' rip-off/knock-off during its "early-to-mid-[[The Nineties|1990s]]" heyday, despite the fact that said shows were practically polar opposites of each other in terms of what their humor styles '''actually focused on''' (''R&S'' focused on its [[Gross Up Close-Up|visual]] humor and [[Surreal Humor|utter nonsensical-ness]] while ''RML'' focused on its writing and characters; also, ''R&S'' focused on being a satire of cartoons themselves while ''RML'' focused on being a more traditional satire of society).
* [[Johnny Test]] has its haters for being a rip-off of [[Dexter's Laboratory]]. Think about it: It's about two ingenious sisters that make experiments for their brother Johnny. The only difference between the two shows is that the lab rat is the star instead of the genius.
* Several ''[[PAW Patrol]]'' fans have accused the Disney Junior show ''SuperKitties'' of being a shameless ripoff the minute it was announced, since both shows involve a group of animals (puppies in ''PAW Patrol'' and kittens in ''SuperKitties'') helping and/or rescuing the residents of the city they live in. It doesn't help that the announcement was made around the same time ''PAW Patrol'' itself introduced a heroic team of cats called the Cat Pack.
 
 
== Web Original ==
* Don't ''ever'' do [[Caustic Critic|ranting reviews]] on [[YouTube]], unless you want to be labeled an [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|AVGN]] ripoff.
** And there are videos on [[YouTube]] calling the AVGN a Seanbaby ripoff. This is because seanbaby predates AVGN, and made fun of NES games for pretty much the same reasons. Some of his lines are even almost exactly the same.
* Many Abridged series are dismissed just for copying [[Little Kuriboh]], regardless of whether they have different jokes or even parody the series differently. This can come off as a bit hypocrital, given Kuriboh's own heavy reliance on pop culture references.
** ''[[Naruto Abridged]]'' made fun of this.
{{quote|You're copying Little Kuriboh! He said the word "the", and you so said it in your last episode!}}
*** Since The Abridged Genre runs on [[Follow the Leader]], this was inevitable...
* Many people on [[Deviant ART]] are just eager to pounce on people that copied (just short of actually taking the person's work) artwork off someone else or made a similar picture, whether by accident or on purpose. Even putting characters in similar poses will get many people flamed because "true art" is original. The mentality can get so bad that all it takes is one artist making a journal crying that someone ripped off his or her work and the people responding go and flame the hell out of the target.
** Never '''EVER''' draw in anything that's even remniscent of anime. Period. You will immmediatly be told that you copied and now it sucks. Never '''ever''' draw fanart. You are copying.
** One art thief actually tried to use this to her advantage. Jen "Spunkywulf" Seng is a very popular artist and animator, especially in the [[Furry Fandom]]. An artist named "Mochi" may have traced her art and that of others. After Jen and her friend tried to discuss it privately, Mochi wrote a journal entry making Jen out to be some sort of elitist who was begrudging Mochi being "inspired" by her work, presumably expecting Jen to be cowed by the flames of Mochi's few hundred fans. Unfortunately, Jen herself has ''thousands'' of fans, and she was perfectly willing to call Mochi out. [http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3358 Hilarity ensued].
** One of the more hilarious aspects of DA is how the Whiteknighting sometimes backfires against the artists themselves. Lets say you want to draw things your parents/relations wouldn't agree with too much. Perhaps you're even a squeaky clean artist who wants to throw a couple boobies into your work to avoid people FROM work from finding out and getting you canned. So you make a new name, and upload new works to that, and gain fans. Eventually, one of your thousands of old fans finds the new account and starts watching...And then they notice minor similarities like how you draw hands and how the new account has no signature on pictures. [[Fan Dumb|Cue mass reporting spree for art theft.]] Even if they aren't trying to hide from anyone, if they make a second account on a whim, for example furry artist Inuki...yea...
** Despite the fact that many people do not like copying of styles, some artists actually ''encourage'' other artists to mimic their style. One mention should go to Razzek, a woman who pressingly tells people to draw characters (whether original or Fan Art) in her style. [[Small Name, Big Ego|Being how she is both on DA and on other sites]], some people have actually given into her demands and it has resulted in a lot of various characters being nearly "rip offs" of the artist's style.
*** Really though, this is just one of the ''many'' "artistic-heads" that cause over half of the trends (and problems) in [[Deviant ART]]. If someone has been on DA long enough, has enough artistic talent to win over some fans, and possibly a [[Small Name, Big Ego|big ego]], you can bet your bottom dollar that those fans will mimic the artist's style because they think it's good. Sadly, this results in less variety of styles and more so the whole "tracing/copying wars" that are seen by those who [[The Theme Park Version|think of the place as Deviant Tart]], where as those who actually have their unique style and ideas never really get noticed.
** Probably because deviantART ''was'' ear-deep in <s>filter-processed copypasted pics</s> "[http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Image:Tartletmanual.jpg Tracing]" for long. Which in itself [[Tropes Are Not Bad|isn't "horrible"]], of course—as long as the works such remix is derived from are given proper credits.
* Several people outside of Japan compare MAD Videos and other similar videos mostly found on Nico Nico Douga (NND) to [[YouTube]] Poop, though Know Your Meme researchers found that [[MA Ds]] were created as far back as 1978, 28 years before [[YouTube]] Poop was created.
** Some people outside of Japan refer to [[MA Ds]] as [[YouTube]] Poop Music Videos ([[YTPM Vs]]), though [[MA Ds]] are usually made with talent and soul, while [[YT Ps]] and [[YTPM Vs]] are often less artistic.
* Every gaming webcomic that isn't ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' has been accused of ripping off the same.
** ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' itself summed the trope up: the difference between "derivative" and "[[Homage]]" is "Whether or not I liked it".
 
 
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** Unlike the arts, any sort of applied sciences tend to dodge this, since the idea isn't to impress with one's originality, but rather to find something that works better than anything else currently out there.
* Copying other people's ideas was the very essence of H.J. Heinz's business strategies. (Yes, ''that'' Heinz, whose company now controls the ketchup market.) Possibly [[Averted Trope|averted]], due to his insistence on always one-upping the competition when he imitated something. For instance, he added vinegar and thickened ketchup to extend its shelf life; ketchup was previously rather mild in flavor and quite runny.
* Snowclones submitted as YKTTW on [[ThisTV Very WikiTropes]] elicit this complaint offhand. Never mind that it relies on a serviceably memorable formula without excessive cleverness or detracting from the original.
* In their memoirs, [[Silent Films]] actresses [[Lillian Gish]] and Miriam Cooper both mentioned their distaste for Carol Dempster, who became D.W. Griffith's leading lady in the 1920s after Gish and Cooper had moved on. They both claimed that Dempster was not a true actress because—according to them—she imitated their acting styles and the acting styles of other actresses, including Gish's sister Dorothy. (They did not consider this to be the [[Sincerest Form of Flattery]].) While Dempster was no shining light of the silent screen—partly because Griffith's creativity seemed to run out of steam after his A-list stars left him—her films were somewhat popular at the time.
* [[Denis Leary]] obviously borrowed a lot of his style and jokes from [[Bill Hicks]], to the point that many people callcalled him a blatant rip-off.
 
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