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Do you watch Gravity Falls?

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Username2527 (talkcontribs)

Hello, again. As the title says, do you watch Gravity Falls?

NoxiousSludge (talkcontribs)

Nope. I suppose that you're proposing an example from there?

Username2527 (talkcontribs)

The story arc isn't over yet but I think we could have some potential candidates on our hands in the near-future. Since you haven't watched the show I'll run through the list of characters that could become Complete Monsters once we see the full extent of their villainy.


Bill Cipher - He's Laughably Evil, but unlike most examples this is only a facade he uses to enhance his villainy. So far he hasn't done anything that heinous but the end of the last episode implied that he's planning to rule over a apocalypse world, so i'm keeping my eyes on him.


Gideon Gleeful - He was the main antagonist of the series before he got arrested and sent to jail at the end of the first season. So far his villainy has been pretty standard [ie attempting to kill a protagonist], but he'll most likely bust out of prison after all there's still more to learn about him too.


Pacifica's Parents [in particular her father Preston Northwest since he stands out more due to having much more personality and speaking lines than the mother] - He has very little influence over the story but despite his limited screen-time he has been considered to be one of the darkest antagonists on the show. He is a wealthy man who has been abusing his daughter to the point of having her back down from him at the sound of a bell, and was willing to let a ghost rampage through his mansion just so common people wouldn't get in it. Again there's still more ground to be covered with him.

Your thoughts so far?

NoxiousSludge (talkcontribs)

Bill: Definitely keep an eye on him. He sounds like he could certainly count depending on what happens next.

Gideon: I could be wrong, but as of now he seems more like an arrogant asshole rather than a truly vile person. I don't think he should really be observed even if he does make a reappearance.

Preston: I'm leaning towards a yes with him. He sounds as bad as he can be given his position as a normal rich civilian, and was willing to throw away a bunch of innocent people's lives out of pride and spitefulness, and his treatment towards his daughter doesn't win him any points either. I do have a question, though. Is he shown to love his wife at all? What exactly is their relationship like?

Username2527 (talkcontribs)

Preston: Not sure if he loves his wife. That's why I said there is still more ground to be covered, but so far he seems to "care" about her to persevere his family's name rather than legitimate love.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Bill is the only one who I'd say has the potential to qualify, but that depends on if he ultimately proves to have moral agency and what his apocalypse is like/how it's played by the narrative.

Gideon is a no thus far since he's as of now both a standard jerkass and just a kid, plus his inmates in prison seem to like him AND there's a possibility he might ultimately make a Heel Face Turn since he's one of the ten symbols in Bill's wheel.

Preston, I actually learn towards no at the moment since he's one of those characters where his despicable nature is played seriously at one moment, but COMPLETELY Played For Laughs the next (Like suggesting they'd eat the butler, for example - pure black comedy.)

Username2527 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Doc. I assume your familiar with the Gravity Falls series, no?

DocColress (talkcontribs)

I am and I've been loving it. I'm surprised I lean against qualifying Preston since I really loathe him, but I can't be unbiased here.

BlueNosy (talkcontribs)

My favourite episode is the one with the supermarket where the teenagers hang out, whatever that was called. Also, Gravity Falls, Oregon exists in real life: it's called Boring.