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*** Fuck you.
*** He's right though, I mean, Captain America is one of the strongest guys around, so I'm sure one old man is more than worth it to bring him down.
**** While such reasoning is entirely in-character for Ultimate Nick Fury, given that he is an absolutely callous sonofabitch, I think the point that people were making was that alleged law enforcement personnel started a fight in the presence of innocent bystanders when they didn't strictly need to. Simply calling Ult Cap on his phone and asking him to report in would have one of two results: either Cap would obligingly walk right into the ambush, or else he'd take off running. Either one gets him the hell out of the park first and since they've already moved their troops into position they can just hit him on the move.
* Okay, so after the Liberators' attack on America was crushed, Captain America told Nick Fury the Ultimates were quitting government sponsorship and becoming an independent superteam because they're presence abroad was the cause of the invasion in the first place. Setting aside the not-even-barely-concealed left-wing propaganda throughout the whole Liberators story arc, how is that even possible? For one thing, most of their technology and resources are SHIELD property. I could arguably see Tony Stark going independent since he built the Iron Man suit on his own, but how does Captain America get away with it? Once he quits government sponsorship, shouldn't he be immediately arrested as a non-sanctioned genetic mutation?
** It's CAPTAIN AMERICA. The guy's a national icon despite his jerkass tendencies, ''and'' he and his team just saved everybody's hides from a group who wanted nothing less than to destroy the USA. All told, I'm sure the higher-ups would figure it acceptable to let them off the hook.
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** All the ultimate avengers scripts were adapted from ideas mark millar had for the main ultimates series. Some of these ideas might have been quite old, or just not implemented for a very good reason. It's possible the scripts weren't updated to keep up with the events that the marvel universe had since experienced
* Spider-Man gets shot by one of Fury's people, and it's Carol Danvers' fault, even thought she was in a coma at the time. Not only does she have to step down from her job as Director of SHIELD, it's handed back to Nick Fury, who last fucked up so bad they had to deport him to another dimension. Fury, who once had the US invaded on his watch. Fury, who failed to detect Gregory Stark plotting to meddle in the affairs of other countries.
** Well, this is Ultimate Nick Fury we're talking about here. If politicians make a decision to his benefit that makes you wonder exactly how many pictures Fury has of them in bed with a dead girl and a live boy, the answer is likely "all the pictures". Sure, only monstrous levels of corruption and/or subversion of the democratic process can explain this crap. It's just, its entirely in-character for Ult Fury to ''be'' monstrously corrupt and subversive, so...
* The banshee drug from the last few issues of ultimate x-men. It gives normal people super-powers, it makes people that already have powers almost godlike (turning cyclops into a superman knock-off), has existed for at least twenty years, it's cheap and widely available and has no side-effects if used in proper amounts. This exists in the universe where the entire premise is there not being a good super-power serum yet. It invalidates the origin of roughly every single character in the entire universe. Why would SHIELD fund any superhuman research if this already exists? Why would companies like Oscorp or Roxxon think there is any money in a super-soldier drug if it already exists? Why would the world hate and fear mutants if they emerged at the exact same time as a drug that gave you the exact same advantages as them?
 
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