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** Dr. W.D. Gaster even more than the Fallen Child, as ''his actual existence'' is mere speculation.
** Sans. Particularly when he claims he would have killed you if not for his promise to Toriel (though he pases it off as a joke) generates questiond to say the least....
* [[Angst Aversion]]: Not the game itself, which, when played as a Pacifist, is quite uplifting, but with the Genocide route. A lot of players, especially ones that got especially attached to the characters, actively avoid it (and any fanart and fanfic surrounding it) because they just find it too sad. This is of course the point.
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]:
** Mettaton NEO. He looks strong, but {{spoiler|the player takes him out in one hit}}.
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** While generally well-liked thanks to making a good first-impression, her actions in the True Pacifist ending have really gotten people's opinions split on Toriel. {{spoiler|While some think her cold, harsh treatment of Asgore is justified due to his actions, others think it's needlessly mean-spirited and cruel to kick a broken, grieving man while he's already down}}. Not helping matters is the relevation that {{spoiler|she was his queen, and that she ditched the throne to leave Asgore by himself. Was she in the right to abandon him due to abandoning the principles he once stood for? Or is she a selfish, hypocritical bitch for calling him a spineless coward when she herself abandoned him and their people during their time of need though the latter is largely mitigated by several neutral run endings which show she very much would have led her people if not for the war}}?
* [[Broken Base]]: Whether or not shipping "Charasriel" {{spoiler|(the Fallen Child and Asriel)}} is acceptable. Some say it's incest while others point out they are not blood siblings.
** Whether ''DELTARUNE'' should be considered ''Undertale 2'' or not. Those who say the latter claim that the games lore is too differant to fit continuity wise and should be considered an AU. Others point out {{spoiler|the heavy implications that this IS the main timeline but some outside force messed with it}}.
**Who was "right" Toriel or Asgore?(See Ron the death eater below)
* [[Complete Monster]]: While they're subjected to a lot of guesswork and theorizing in regards to how evil they truly are, this is definitely how the Fallen Child can come across when one looks at their actions and personality in the game proper. While they were definitely a troubled child in life, a Genocide run ends with {{spoiler|them taking control from the player and committing not only ''patricide'' and ''fratricide'', but ''omnicide'' as well. While the player was the one responsible for killing all the monsters leading up to this moment, the Fallen Child still makes the active choice to not only wipe out the game's world themselves whether the player likes it or not, but to sabotage the best ending by killing everyone, even their own adopted family afterwards should the player go for one again}}.
** Of course, the players themselves can aim to be one should they wish. While the Fallen Child is the one pulling the strings for the last portion of the game, in a Genocide run, the player themselves made the choice to kill every monster in their way, no matter how friendly or innocent they were, and you can easily go out of your way to be as cruel as possible: you can stab Toriel in the back after convincing her to stand down, murder the Royal Guards in front of each other after {{spoiler|getting them to confess to one another}}...
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