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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Is Isaac a [[Dogged Nice Guy|genuine friend]] that just wants to recover his old relationship with Ash? Or is he an [[Stalker with a Crush|obssesed vampire]] that embraced Ash just to force a relationship, whatever might be its [[Homoerotic Subtext|nature]], between them?
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]:
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: The endgame. {{spoiler|Assuming you were hoping to kill the Prince in something other than a cut scene}}.
** After going through tons of his ghouls inside his mansion, it's rather surprising to discover that {{spoiler|Alistair's already dead}}.
** The first time, when you can easly jump on a safe table and shot Andrei the Tzimisce down with your trusty gun or with long-distance disciplines.
** The Mandarin doesn't even have a health bar.
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]:* The endgame. {{spoiler|Assuming you were hoping to kill the Prince in something other than a cut scene}}.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Quite a few, which is unsurprising given [[Old World of Darkness|the setting]].
** Andrei is the leader of [[Exclusively Evil|the Sabbat]], so obviously he's bad news. But its not until you reach his lair and [[Body Horror|find out what he's been up to]] that it truly sinks in how depraved he is.
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** On the other side of the fence, Wesp claims that Tessera stole some of the code for his patches even though this isn't true: the initial design for the True Patch stipulated it could be applied on top of Wesp's patch, but this was later discarded. Wesp also claimed that Tessera also "stole" bugfixes from him, but that claim is unprovable, as most of the bugs in the game were first discovered by other parties unrelated to either of them.
** There are two major unofficial patches, and they serve different purposes. They generated some heated debate about their various merits and originality. These patches provoked a lot of [[Fan Dumb]], including flame wars, a war on [[The Other Wiki]], and some people taking their balls and going home.
* [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]]:
** Seems to be what happens if you play a Female Malkavian.
** Jeanette. Dear God.
* [[Game Breaker]]:
** Celerity and Potence allow you to go into a [[Bullet Time]] massacre which, at high levels, gives you [[Nigh Invulnerability]] simply because you'll have [[One-Hit Kill|one hit killed]] everything before it can even reach you.
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** The Elizabeth Dane can be this if you were really unlucky with your skillpoint allocation. It isn't so bad if you're halfway decent in Persuasion and Hacking. You can persuade the first guard to give you the police report and call away another guard, then you just need to sneak into the cabin, hack the doors and the cameras, take the ledger and off you go. Without even coming close to another guard. And if you're a Nosferatu or a Malkavian, hence gifted with Obfuscate, even the sneaking portions aren't that bad.
*** Even without Obfuscate, if you managed to persuade the first guard but screw up (i.e. take too long and the guard is back at his post), you can just run right by him, pistols aren't going to drop you that fast and you can still avoid killing anyone.
* [[Suspiciously Similar Song]]: The main menu music sounds almost like an instrumental version of "Angel" by [[Massive Attack]].
* [[Too Dumb to Live]]: None of the factions can really match the utter foolishness of the Society of Leopold. Not only do their 'field agents' dress like your typical cliche [[Old World of Darkness|oWoD]] character ( Literally a trenchcoat and a katana), making them stand out like sore thumbs, their base is littered with ammocrates not seen in any other base (not even the sabbat) ripe for anyone to shoot everybody to hogh heaven. The actions of the hunters are also so stupid, it gets lampshaded. But the best example of their foolishness has to be their laser trip-wires, while one might expect the lasers to simply warn the hunters, instead, they are explosive rigged. And why would people fighting against vampires allow their own laser tripwires to be easily toggled between being triggered by vampires (room temperature) and humans (body temperature)? Of course, it could just be [[Law of Conservation of Detail]] and the player character actually does something more complicated to change the settings than pick one in a menu.
* [[That One Level]]: The Warrens, a [[Marathon Level]] that largely serves as nothing but [[Padding]]. They're ''full'' of annoying and hard to kill monsters, tricky puzzles, and contain no interesting loot or anything importance to the plot. Thankfully, the most recent versions of the unofficial patch re-implements a [[Dummied Out]] shortcut that allows you to skip the lower three levels.
* [[Ugly Cute]]: Of all things, Mitnick the hacker Nosferatu. Unlike the other members of the clan, he looks like a perfectly normal 20-something aside from pointed ears and baldness. Some dialogue implies that Mitnick somehow became ''more attractive'' after becoming a Nosferatu.
* [[That One Sidequest]]: Defending the graveyard from a zombie horde. There are literally ''hundreds'' of zombies, they take forever to kill, and the two gates you have to defend are very far apart, and you automatically fail if even ''one'' zombie breaks through. Let's just say that many players take up Romero's offer to get him a hooker (or have sex with him, if your character is female) just to avoid the sheer pain of the graveyard level.
** Which raises the question of how ugly he must have been before he was turned.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]:
** Even the other male Nosferatu don't look horrible, with a hood they could easily live in LA. The male PC Nosferatu is arguably the ugliest of them. However, the FEMALE Nosferatu (PC or NPC) are utterly horrific.
** The [[Player Character]]'s sire. Going by estimates from lore fans based on the PC's traits and the tabletop rules, they were at the very least of below-average generation, possibly even stronger (most likely 7th). Yet they're forgotten about shortly after embracing the [[Player Character]], with none of LA's major vamps ever mentioning knowing them. Why this individual chose the PC of all people, why a seemingly experienced vampire would (no doubt knowingly) commmit such an obvious violation of the Traditions, who they were and what their allegiance or ambitions were, none of it is ever answered. Also falls into [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]], given that this is ''Vampire'', where whole storylines could spring from trying to dissociate oneself from a sire who has fallen from grace or the power vacuum that the destruction of such a vampire would create.
** There are two other primogens at the primogen meeting in LaCroix's office, but you never get to interact with them.
** Grout. Seriously, the head Malkavian vampire already being dead when you find him is going to make you feel very cheated.
* [[Too Cool to Live]]: Grout and your sire, see [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]] above.
** Even[[Ugly theCute]]: otherOf maleall things, most of the Nosferatu don'tyou look horrible,encounter. withWith a hood they could easily live in LA. The male PC Nosferatu is arguably the ugliest of them. However, the FEMALE Nosferatu (PC or NPC) are utterly horrific.
* [[Ugly Cute]]: Of all things,* Mitnick the hacker Nosferatu. Unlike the other members of the clan, he looks like a perfectly normal 20-something aside from pointed ears and baldness. Some dialogue implies that Mitnick somehow became ''more attractive'' after becoming a Nosferatu. Which raises the question of how ugly he must have been before he was turned.
** Even though female Nosferatu seem to be uglier than the male ones, Imalia's just bald and a funny colour.
* [[Wangst]]: Mocked; when switching from the Camarilla to the Anarchs, you can tell Damsel, "[[Emo Teen|I hate my parents and I want a divorce.]]"