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** Prince Serg was considered Ges' ally and equal in awfulness by those in the know, and was bad enough that his father Emperor Ezar was willing to sacrifice thousands of his own troops and the honour of his best people in an [[Offing the Offspring]] [[Batman Gambit]] rather than let Serg take the throne. His widow tries to kiss Cordelia's hand in gratitude for her having killed Ges, and later remarks of a suitor that she's had him checked out and he treats his courtesans normally, a point she clearly considers in his favour.
** Baron Ryoval. Possibly the worst in the series, and given the [[Complete Monster]] company he keeps in the Vorkosigan saga, [[Torture Technician|that]] [[Body Horror|is really]] [[Up to Eleven|saying something.]]
*** Baron Ryoval was a legendary figure of horror and revulsion on ''Jackson's Whole'' -- a [[Wretched Hive]] where things like selling your own children into slavery or murdering a sibling in cold blood for business advantage is considered perfectly civilized behavior. Being the worst guy in the kingdom is one thing. Being the worst guy in Space Mordor is something else again ''entirely''.
** Commander Cavilo is Miles as a [[Complete Monster]]. Miles' friends [[Genre Savvy|take great delight]] in telling Miles this.
** Mark's foster-"father" Galen is [[Abusive Parents|another real prize-winner]].
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* [[Crazy Awesome]]:
** Miles at his most manic and inspired arguably slips into this. Perhaps the defining example is the moment where he resolved a hostage situation ''[[Shoot the Hostage|by threatening to shoot the hostage himself]]''. With a ''plasma cannon''.
{{quote| ''Miles had judged the hostage-problem logically insoluble; therefore, clearly the only thing to do was make it Cavilo's problem instead of his own.'' (from ''The Vor Game'')}}
** There's his verbal sparring with Cavilo earlier as well:
{{quote| '''Elena''': Damn. If I didn't know you, I'd think you were Mad Yuri's understudy. The look on your face . . . am I reading too much into all that innuendo, or did you in fact just connive to assassinate Gregor in one breath, offer to cuckold him in the next, accuse your father of homosexuality, suggest a patricidal plot against him, and league yourself with Cavilo -- what are you going to do for an encore?}}
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Both "That Idiot" Ivan Vorpatril and Mark Vorkosigan have become intriguing characters due to [[Hidden Depths]], and it doesn't hurt that both love to deflate Miles' ego, and know ''exactly'' what buttons to push - Mark even more so since he ''is'' Miles. Other popular bit players are Emperor Ezar and Emperor Fletchir Giaja, each of whom only appear in one book (''Barrayar'' and ''Cetaganda'' respectively.) Both leave striking impressions of rulers who are cunning and a hint of what Gregor might become when he grows older. Miles is in awe of Fletchir's wisdom, deeming him a [[Worthy Opponent]].
* [[High Octane Nightmare Fuel]] / [[Nausea Fuel]]: In ''Diplomatic Immunity'', {{spoiler|Ker Dubauer's}} lovely selection of Cetagandan bioweapons will leave you ''begging'' for a [[Mercy Kill]] before you {{spoiler|literally boil into a steaming puddle of melted entrails. Oh, and they leave the brain intact so you're conscious up till the last minute.}}
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* [[Squick]]:
** Butter bugs before Ekaterin's cosmetic improvements.
{{quote| '''Miles:''' It looks like a cross between a cockroach, a termite, and a... and a... and a ''pustule''.}}
** Cetagandan ''Kitten Trees.'' For the love of all that's holy, '''do not pick one before they're RIPE.'''
** The [[Body Horror|once-human things]] in Baron Ryoval's research/torture labs.
* [[What Measure Is a Non -Badass?]]: Ekaterin comes off as this compared to the rest of Miles's soldier/badass girlfriends, mostly because she's had a quieter, more domestic life. She has a brief [[Adrenaline Makeover]] at the end of ''Komarr'' that impresses the hell out of Miles, though, so maybe she just has that potential and never used it.
** Ekaterin acquits herself pretty well toward the end of ''Diplomatic Immunity'' while {{spoiler|Miles is incapacitated}}. It's also made clear in the series that there's more than one kind of badassery, and once out from under Tien and in Miles' orbit Ekaterin starts displaying hers, from proposing to Miles in front of the entire Council of Counts to fox Richars Vorrutyer in ''Civil Campaign'' to {{spoiler|working behind the scenes on both a personal and diplomatic level to make contacting the Cetagandans about the rogue ba easier}} in ''Diplomatic Immunity''. She's also super-classy towards Miles' various paramours and would-be paramours, even having his old flame Taura stand as second during her wedding.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: Mark drifts into this territory several times.
 
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