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** China is also bashed once in a while because of his "girly" looks and voice, and he also gets some "revision" to make him more snarky and assertive (though not nearly as much as with Canada). Even though he's shown to [[Cute Bruiser|have martial arts skills]] in canon and ''[[Super Strength|super strength]] rivaling America's'' in the anime.
** Poland's [[Keet]] behavior and penchant for ponies and skirts makes him ''hated'' in some circles. Him being one of the few nations who will fearlessly stand up to [[Psychopathic Manchild|Russia]] will be conveniently ignored by them.
** In an odd case of this, fans of this kind don't hate Greece for being sleepy and laidback; they just want him to be with Turkey all the time because Turkey is the [[Berserk Button|only thing]] that causes him to lose his calm, easygoing nature and hence makes him a [[Hot -Blooded]] [[Tsundere]] who's "stronger" and "cooler" than the calm [[Nice Guy]] he is with <s>Japan</s> everyone who's not Turkey. Some of these fans even seem to believe that Greece [[The Philosopher|waxing philosophical]], [[Kindhearted Cat Lover|taking care of numerous cats]], and [[Chivalrous Pervert|being affectionate and respectful toward Japan]] makes him a "[[Flat Character|personality-devoid]] [[Shallow Love Interest]]" because apparently he can't be a strong or complex character if he isn't constantly angry, fight-happy, short-tempered, or otherwise "manly" like he is with Turkey.
** Lithuania gets this sometimes, due to his [[Yamato Nadeshiko]] and [[Woobie]] tendencies...as with Poland, the fact that he definitely has shades of [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass]], and that it's the fandom itself that [[Wimpification|wimpifies]] him, tends to go ignored.
* A couple of fans had this complaint about Canute in ''[[Vinland Saga]]''. Many hoped he'd be killed off eventually. [[Foregone Conclusion|Which is moronic, since he is a historical figure that lived to be quite old, and thus the only guaranteed survivor amongst the heroes.]]
** There is a ''very'' good chance that people who are complaining [http[wikipedia://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canute_the_GreatCanute the Great|don't even know he's a real person.]]
* A complaint regarding a number of [[Demoted to Extra]] characters from ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]''. Prime example is Yuuno Scrya, but many would also level the complaint regarding Chrono Harlaown, who has shown himself to be genuinely [[Badass]] on occasion. Some people would even say this about Nanoha herself, because she seems to be nonlethal no matter how much property damage she ends up inflicting, up to and including blowing through a large portion of a warship from inside. It's actually supposed to be a sign of Nanoha's power that she has enough self-control to only inflict nonlethal but very, very painful magical damage.
* Many parts of the ''[[Naruto]]'' [[Fan Dumb]] utterly embody this attitude as applied to pretty much ''any'' character: any time a character appears to be something less than a [[Badass]] who accomplishes everything without any effort whatsoever, you have hoards of people saying how they must suck as a character because they are "weak". In the rare occasions where they don't, they'll bitch that the writer sucks for not making them "badass enough" or turning them into [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]].
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** Also, Sakura in the VN. She is a [[Distressed Damsel]] in her route she didn't kick ass like Saber/Rin, but that doesn't mean it's her fucking fault that she's horrifyingly abused by the Matou family, {{spoiler|as well as raped constantly by her stepbrother Shinji}}. And yet the stupid "feminist" fans keep slutshaming and bashing her, saying it's her own fault that she's an abuse {{spoiler|and rape}} victim!
* Madoka Kaname from ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica (Anime)|Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'' is [[The Scrappy|condemned by the fanbase]] for being [[Wangst|emotionally crushed]] by all that happens to her and not react with violence or bitchiness, as well as hesitate in becoming a [[Magical Girl]] after {{spoiler|her big sister mentor Mami dies ''horribly''}}. The fanbase just ignores the parts on the fact that being a Magical Girl involves a [[Deal With the Devil]] and a lifetime of servitude {{spoiler|and as we eventually realize, turning into an [[Eldritch Abomination]]}} for a single wish that [[Be Careful What You Wish For|you are very likely to screw up]], and how Homura actively keeps Madoka from agreeing to such. Oh, and when her emotional breakdown reaches its current peak in episode 6 where she loses it and {{spoiler|tries to stop Sayaka from fighting Kyouko by throwing away her Soul Gem, not knowing the effects of said action}}, the [[Fan Dumb]] calls her out as a "stupid bitch".
** And in some circles, '''very bad things''' have been said about {{spoiler|Sayaka and Mami}} after the first's {{spoiler|[[Freak -Out]] and transformation into a Witch}} and the second {{spoiler|going mad after learning the [[Awful Truth]] in the third timeline.}}
* One of the key reasons some [[Yu-Gi-Oh|Seto Kaiba]] fans find Yugi and his friends unlikable. (The other? [[Ron the Death Eater]])
** This trope also sums up the attitude to non-dueling main characters who are sometimes seen as useless or unneccessary in a world where [[Duels Decide Everything]].
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** You should note that even Rorschach held this view for a period of time. And considering his popularity with readers, his view of Nite Owl II probably contributed to the way a lot of fans saw him. Rather ironic considering how Moore intended the ''[[Misaimed Fandom|exact opposite]]'' effect.
** Parodied in ''[[I'm a Marvel And Im ADC]]'', where Dan and Cyclops discuss this trope.
* Speaking of which, Scott/Cyclops himself seems to fall into this trope. Holds his own against Wolverine in hand-to-hand combat, takes out the entire team when they're brainwashed and he's injured, beats up six men at once with his eyes shut, pulls off impossible trick shots, ''earns'' the nickname Fearless Leader... and a lot of ''[[X-Men]]'' fans still think of him as a pussy, because he dares to not get along with [[Anti -Sue|Wolverine]] (which, [[Fridge Logic|when you think about it]], is pretty badass in its own little way).
** Later years come with an inversion - people don't like him because he takes [[Took a Level In Badass|several levels in badass]] one after another since [[Joss Whedon]]'s ''Astonishing X-Men'', that it's just ridiculous - fans think that his balls took control over him and they are leading the X-men right now.
*** It has less to do with his actions and more with his many years of being a boring by-the-book [[Standardized Leader]], constantly angsting over Jean Grey didn't help much either, then throw in inconsistent writing and voila. Though, as previously mentioned this has [[Took a Level In Badass|definitely]] changed over time.
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== [[TV Tropes]] ==
* This is part of the reason that [[The Chick]] is looked down upon, because she tends to be a non-action, non-[[Badass]]. And [[Chickification]] is ''immediately'' labeled to an [[Action Girl]] [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|who shows any "female" emotion]].
* Eight words: [[What Kind of Lame Power Is Heart, Anyway?]]?
** Subverted with [[Heart Is an Awesome Power]].
* [[Non-Action Guy]]: Described with "de-masculinized" in the trope description, with the possibility of [[Took a Level In Badass|becoming more badass]] being described as "masculination." [[Sarcasm Mode|Because everyone knows]] that Real Men ''Must'' Be Badass.
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