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* It bugs me from a logic standpoint that Oz has guns as evinced by Fiyero's arbequesque -like rifle, but no one tried to shoot down Elphaba at the end of 'Defying Gravity'
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* It bugs me from a logic standpoint that Oz has guns as evinced by Fiyero's arbequesque like rifle, but no one tried to shoot down Elphaba at the end of 'Defying Gravity'
** [[Rule of Cool]], or at least he and his several in-canon and IRL [[Fan Girls]] will lead you to believe he applies. The other guards weren't cool, so they have to stick with cardboard spears.
*** Cardboard? Oh, please, that is an exaggeration. He's CAPTAIN of the guard, guys. He has to be cooler, duh.
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** My guess is this: Dorothy is an innocent enough girl with no idea how dangerous Oz really is. Glinda isn't a powerful witch, so she gave Dorothy the shoes with the hope that they would give her some sort of protection. How was she to know that Elphaba would be so badly affected?
 
* Air balloons. As in the original novels, no one knows what they are.. ''Why exactly''? They have steam trains and other somewhat modern marvels however no one can figure out how to get a balloon to fly? That's 18th century stuff.
** The narrative still needed to present the Wizard as a Wizard to his subjects. In-story, flight was possible through sufficiently powerful magic or [[Magitek]] like Glinda's bubble in the musical, so I can imagine either the citizens didn't feel the need to learn, or [[Wild Mass Guessing|the mages who could fly put some kind of a stigma on flight research to keep their specialness.]] Also, since the Wizard's been in Oz for at least 20 years by the time we see the train in the musical, maybe steam technology is another thing he brought with him from Earth?
 
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** It can't be Avaric. Elphaba visits him while the Scarecrow is supposed to be with Dorothy. Though I did notice the foreshadowing and thought that might be it myself.
** Isn't there a throw-away mention of how straw men are connected to Munchkin pagan beliefs? Book!Nessarose seems the sort of person who'd think it pleasingly ironic to transform an unbeliever in the Unnamed God into a symbol of his faith. Whether or not she's good enough at magic to do so is another matter, of course.
* A lot of the stuff in the book doesn't make a lot of sense (to me, at least); 1. Was Elphaba raped? Fiyero remarks that their first time together wasn't her first and she has a mark down there... 2. Does Elphaba try to kill herself after Fiyero died? Did she know he was going to die? Before he goes back to her hidey-hole thing, she starts crying and then disappears. And then she looks like she's slit her wrists... 3. Why was Fiyero killed off? I mean in-universe reasons... 4.And why couldn't Fiyero make up his mind about whether or not he was in love with Elphaba? Clearly he doesn't love his real wife, at several points in time he decides/comes to the realization that he is in love with her (and it's pretty clear she's in love with him), and in the musical he is...so why is he so wishy-washy about it in the book?
** 1. She wasn't raped. It's implied that she was a hemaphrodite when she was born. 2. No, she went into a coma from depression and, no, she had warned him to stay away from the hideout. 3. He was involved with a domestic terrorist. 4. The only other woman he's had a serious relationship with was an arranged marriage, he didn't love her. So he's not sure what he feels. It hadn't been that long when he died. Love's confusing.
*** Thanks. I find it hard, in this book, to tell what is a metaphor and what is really happening...
** 1. Not being a virgin is hardly the same thing as being raped. 4. She's a domestic terrorist. Fiyero is, understandably enough, unsure how he feels about that.
* The Tin Man in the book. The original Oz books were whimsical/fairy tale-ish enough that the idea of some tinsmith in the middle of nowhere being good enough to build fully functioning tin prostheses to turn someone into an Ozian Cyberman was perfectly acceptable, but Wicked doesn't have this excuse. Is he a tiktok construct? Was this unnamed tinsmith a sorcerer of some sort? How does he work?
** Why does Wicked not have this excuse? It's still Oz. Oz full of talking animals, witches, magic shoes, and flying broom sticks. It's the same world, just told in a very different way. Magical whimsical tin smiths are still a viable option.
*** Apparently, this Tin Man has the same origin as in the book (probably because it was already tragic). As a man, he fell in love with a young woman, but the Wicked Witch of the East enchanted his axe to cut off his limbs, one by one. Somehow, he managed to replace each piece of him with tin each time. In fact, the only real difference is in "Wicked", it's revealed the mother of the Tin Man's lover commissioned Nessarose to enchant the axe.
** On a related note, the Scarecrow in the book. In the original Oz books, he was always alive, perfectly content being brainless and immobile. But what's his place in the Wicked series? Are all scarecrows alive in that Oz? Was that Scarecrow a special case? Was he even a real Scarecrow?
 
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