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== [[Fan Works]] ==
* This is an attitude frequently ascribed to Albus Dumbledore in ''[[Harry Potter]]'' fan fiction: in far too many fan stories he is firmly convinced that [[Black and White Morality|there is only the Light and the Dark]], and ''he'' is the one who decides which one you are. And far too often in these cases, the deciding factor is whether or not you follow ''him'' unquestioningly.
== [[Film]] ==
* Parodied in ''[[Monty Python's Life of Brian]]'', where the splinter groups against the Romans [[We ARE Struggling Together!|hated each other as much as the Romans]]. While this was originally intended as a satire on the increasingly-fractured British Left in the late '70s (the Pythons were all for [[British Political System|Labour]] at the time, although [[John Cleese]] has since become a Lib Dem), it turns out that the Jews in Jesus' day really were quite fractured and always squabbling against themselves instead of the Romans.
* The page quote is from ''[[Revenge of the Sith]]''.
** Obi-Wan's reply, incidentally, is, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." While he did get a lot of flak from fans by replying with what is, in itself, an absolute statement, the point he makes is valid - such a black-and-white all-or-nothing manner of thinking is a dangerous path that only evil men would approve of.
* In ''[[Ben-Hur]]'', this mentality is what drove Messala to sentence Judah Ben-Hur to slavery. Messala wanted his friend Ben-Hur to turn in the Jews who were speaking against him and the Roman occupation. Ben-Hur refuses, so Messala tells him, "You're either with me or you're against me." Ben-Hur replies, "If those are my choices, then I am against you."
* ''[[Avatar (film)|Avatar]]'': Colonel Miles Quaritch while fighting Jake Sully at the climactic battle of The Tree of Souls.
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* Bernadine Dohrn, a prominent member of the [[wikipedia:Weatherman (organization)|Weather Underground]] during the Black Power movement and the protests against the Vietnam War, famously stated: "White youth must choose sides ''now''. They must either fight on the side of the oppressed, or be on the side of the oppressor."
* In 1956, Hungarians revolted against the harsh Communist dictatorship. The revolution was crushed by Soviet troops, but a much milder reigme was established under János Kádár. In 1961, he inverted this statement, saying that "whoever is not against the People's Republic of Hungary is for it."
* The fragmenting of politics in the 2010s and 2020s is based on "us versus them". No need to list specific examples; there have been plenty of cases in multiple countries where some legislators voted against popular or needed legislation simply because it was introduced by somebody in a different party.
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